State’s pot backers undeterred

December 27, 2012

Tutored by California’s prior failures to become the nation’s legal pot pioneer, advocates in Washington and Colorado learned and subsequently succeeded. Now California marijuana legalization proponents are feeling newly-empowered and eying rekindled efforts to win their next campaign. (San Jose Mercury News)

Backers of California’s unsuccessful Proposition 19 in 2010 met early in December with others who have promoted similar measures in the past, some of which conflicted.

Support of legalization or extreme relaxation of existing laws nationwide is a concept now being embraced by a slim majority for the first time ever, according to analysts on both sides of the political spectrum.

More attention to detail as to how such legalization would be administered was missing in California’s main efforts, its sponsors concede, including adequate descriptions of state-run regulatory system, and application of DUI restrictions.

Proponents in Colorado’s campaign agree that allocating resulting tax revenues for schools proved very helpful in convincing voters to support the plan.


19 Comments

  1. Pelican1 says:

    I love revisionists.

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  2. Ted Slanders says:

    “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you.” (Genesis 1:29)

    “For everything created by God is good and nothing is to be rejected.” (1Timothy 4:4) This says that “Mary Jane” is good and is not to be rejected. Get it?

    This Hebrew-Christian God-given food and medicine should be readily available and inexpensive to His creation. Any hungry or sick and suffering person that could benefit from it should do so without paying either the exorbitant prices caused by its illegality, their arrest, or caused by pharmaceutical company profits!

    Drug companies ask astronomical prices for a largely ineffective artificial substitutes for different maladies. Jesus said, “You can not serve God and mammon”, (Matthew 6:24). Mammon is money. The mammon in marijuana prohibition is greed and profit by the big pharma. 2+2=4.

    “Mary Jane” should be received with gratitude. “For everything created by God is good and nothing is to be rejected, if it is received with gratitude.” (1 Tim 4:4)

    If you would like to see grateful people, you will find them wherever marijuana has reduced pain, helped with blindness, whose tumors have shrunk or disappeared, whose depression is vanquished, or have just gathered in happiness to share each other’s loving company by toking some pot, that is equal to getting together in local bars.

    When is this alleged Christian Nation going to start following bibilical scripture like it should?

    WWJD? He would follow His Father’s biblical axioms as described above and light up.

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    • Pelican1 says:

      Not so fast Ted,
      “Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.” (Galatians 5:19-21)

      So, where are the drugs mentioned in this verse? Actually, the word translated “sorcery” is the Greek word pharmakeia, from which we get the English word “pharmacy.” The primary meaning is “the use or the administering of drugs” (usually associated with sorcery or idolatry). Since this verse comes from a list of things that, if practiced, would preclude one from heaven, this should be a reasonably strong suggestion that the Christian should not practice drug use. In addition, the book of Revelation lists drug use as one of the things for which the unrepentant will suffer the wrath of God.
      What say you of the grape? A God given food as well.

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      • Ted Slanders says:

        Pelican1

        “The primary meaning is “the use or the administering of drugs”

        Jesus H Christ, I hate it when someone blatantly shows yet another contradiction within the bible. Thanks a lot! Okay, the TRUE Christian is not to take mind-altering drugs. Did Satan send you to Cal Coast News?

        Yes, within the biblical era, the term “sorcery” can mean pharmakeia, from phamakeus, which equals one who prepares or uses magical remedies; from pharmakon, which equals a drug or spell giving potion, but it can also mean the use of medicinal drugs as well.

        Examples of mind altering drugs and potions relative to the term “sorcery” in our bible include the following; of which our rendition of God dislikes, to wit: “They practiced divination and sorcery and sold themselves to do evil in the eyes of the Lord, provoking him to anger. ( 2 Kings 17:17)

        “So I will come near to you for judgment. I will be quick to testify against sorcerers, adulterers and perjurers…” says the Lord Almighty. (Malachi 3:5 )

        Most importantly, to show once again that women are 2nd class; “Do not allow a sorceress to live.” (Exodus 22:18) But, male sorcerers are not to be killed, praise!

        What do I think of the grape in this context? Enough biblical contradictions for now relative to my initial post where the scripture said otherwise relative to “Mary Jane”, okay? Thank you.

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    • paragon says:

      Nice one, Ted. The same bible quotes can be used to support drinking alcohol, snorting coke, doing mushrooms, which all also come from plants provided by God. AA and NA must be doing the work of the devil to try to get people to give up those substances provided to us by God. So I presume Jesus would also follow the same axioms and do a line, get drunk, and get high?

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      • zaphod says:

        holy anointing oil

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      • Ted Slanders says:

        paragon,

        QUIT SHOWING IN HOW OUR BIBLE IS SO CONTRADICTING! Give me a break, for Christ’s sake!

        The fact is, no one can wholeheartedly serve two masters (Matthew 6:24; Luke 16:13). Any time spent kneeling before the god of drugs is time spent slapping the face of the God of the Bible. Will you buy this seemingly godly notion? Yes?

        The above statement is the only thing that I can come up with at this time. I refuse to be like a Cindy and make overly brash and embarrassing Satanic spin doctoring statements to try in vain to sweep contradictions under the rug.

        Subjectively, it boggles the mind in that our God said: “For everything created by God is good and nothing is to be rejected.” (1Timothy 4:4) Since our version of God is omniscient, anything less wouldn’t be a notable God concept, then He knew of these future drugs that were to be detrimental to us, and that are made by things He created that are NOT to be rejected!

        Can you spell; “C-o-n-u-n-d-r-u-m?”

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        • Pelican1 says:

          Why do you continue to use the Lord’s name in vain?

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          • Ted Slanders says:

            pelican1,

            I am NOT using His name in vain if it’s for His sake! The name of the Lord Jesus is holy. The name of the Lord Jesus is a representation of His glory, and His majesty, therefore, we’re to stand up for Him as I have done in the post in question. Get it? 2+2=4.

            Are you going to address my post to you, or are you going to continue with your insipid comments?

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  3. slojustice says:

    I say legalize it and unemployment will stop being an issue, pot heads don’t want to work anyway.

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    • standup says:

      Spoken like a true cop slojustice. I’ll bet your Christmas parties with all your cop friends were ripe with drunk drivers that get let off because they are one of boys (or girls). Please, with all your high school education wisdom share with us how your alcohol is less damaging to society than my pot. The only good that comes from prohibition of marijuana is that it creates useless jobs in the criminal justice system that cost us hard working, taxpaying potheads, a huge waste of our tax dollars.

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      • slojustice says:

        Sorry to disappoint, not a cop. My experience though is individuals who smoke pot tend not to be very motivated to work. I know that there are some hard working people who have no problem with being users. I only have my personal experience with family members and friends and people I come across at my work. My personal opinion would be it’s ok to legalize it, but I do not want anyone to receive public assistance such as welfare or unemployment if they are smoking pot. I also feel the same way about alcoholics. The current system of anyone not being able to sleep eight straight hours receives a note from a doctor to get a medical card is ridiculous. It’s pretty much decriminalized right now in california.
        Since you decided to make some big assumptions let me give you one. Your dig at cops with their high school education indicates that you have some superiority complex. Just because you happened to have wealthy parents who put you through six years of partying. Does that piece of paper give you the false impression you are educated? Do you think that with your precious piece of paper you should be placed on some pedestal to look down on the rest of society. Well I guess you can go back to your state or county government job. Where the only requirement was your certificate and you can continue “standing up” for your precious pot. I will always remember that phrase about assuming.

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        • standup says:

          Talk about assumptions, I worked my entire way through Cal Poly but my folks did help with books as they are so expensive. I paid for tuition, rent, etc. After I graduated, I worked in construction busting my butt for nine bones an hour. I now own my own business and I am not in some plush little government office sucking some huge pension. I smoke mmj only at night with a rec for a reason that is none of your business. But your comment about a scrip for sleep is funny. I guess it is O.K. in your book for someone to get a scrip for sleeping pills that have all kinds of bad chemicals in them all the while supporting big bad pharma? But at the same time it is not O.K. for someone to grow a plant in their yard that costs them nothing, puts zero strain on our healthcare system, is natural, can be grown organically with no gmo, pesticides, etc.? sloinjustice maybe? lol

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        • Pelican1 says:

          Just curious Slo, do you ever, or have you ever consumed alcohol, or smoked cigarettes?
          If so, how do you reconcile the fact that millions of Americans have not only died as the result of the use of those two chemicals, they have lost their families, fortunes, health, jobs, relationships, friendships, and much more? the statistics are staggering.
          Is the same true of marijuana?

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  4. ds_gray says:

    Until its legal at the Federal level, all the local laws are meaningless. We have re-elected the most liberal President in decades, and even his administration has steered clear of this issue, and back-pedaled on his promise to stop enforcement of Federal law in this state.

    The ‘pro-pot’ movement needs something it doesn’t have presently, that all other successful special-interest groups have; a strong, well-organized lobby in DC, backed with LOTS of money and inside contacts to lawmakers and their staff. Once there is an organized lobby in place, and once the mainstream media outlets are prompted to carry pro-marijuana news pieces in the form of news releases, then the tide of public opinion can be turned. Passing a few initiatives in 3 states isn’t going to make a nation-wide difference in the near-term.

    I think Phillip-Morris (aka Altria) may be helpful in this area. Their main product is on the decline.

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    • pasovino says:

      Sorry but Obama is far from liberal-Decades? Clinton?

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      • ds_gray says:

        Clinton was a liberal, but his policies were center-left. Obama’s policies have been left to far-left. Even Clinton didn’t touch this issue. Remember “I smoked it but I didn’t inhale”? Its a political electric fence; no one is ready to touch it until more of the US is on the pro-legalization side of the fence.

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  5. isoslo says:

    Legalize the stuff and end this wasteful “war on drugs”

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