DMV says licensing illegals will reduce collisions

January 16, 2013

drivers licenceA California Department of Motor Vehicles study is recommending that the state license illegal immigrant drivers. [LA Times]

The DMV study determined that unlicensed drivers, the majority of whom are illegal immigrants, cause nearly three times as many crashes as licensed drivers. It suggested that California could reduce its total of several thousand yearly fatalities by testing and licensing all drivers.

Immigrant rights groups agreed that licensing illegal aliens would make the roads safer. Los Angeles Central American Resource Center board president Angela Sanbrano told the LA Times that denying driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants “really goes against public safety.”

“The current law forces people who would otherwise be properly licensed to drive without one,” Sanbrano said.

Supporters of licensing illegal immigrant drivers also point to the cost of uninsured motorist claims. State data shows that insurance companies paid out $634 million in 2009 for collisions caused by uninsured drivers.

But, opponents of illegal immigrations say the state should not use statistics to encourage people to break the law.

“One study shouldn’t trump the obvious — if you don’t want illegal aliens in the country, why do you want to encourage them to be on the roads?” said Bob Dane of the Federation for American Immigration Reform. “It just defies common sense.”

The DMV study included 23 years of data on fatal accidents.

Democratic Assemblyman Luis Alejo introduced a bill last week that would allow illegal immigrants to obtain driver’s licenses if they show they pay taxes.

 


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A license is going to make a safer driver? Who are they trying to kid? Just another waste of taxpayers money with another study. It’s kind of like the gun issue-criminals do not buy guns and register them. It will be the same with these illegal immigrants, they will still drive unsafe, with or without a license.


Understand this is from the same people who are saying if we take the guns away from law abiding citizens it will make us safer……. ???????


Yeah, it doesn’t exactly resonate, does it? Motive, motive, always look for the underlying motive.


let’s make sure that when they get those licenses, which they will, MAY NOT VOTE is clearly printed onb the face of the license


They don’t check ID’s at the polls, so it has no bearing.


not yet but think ahead


Voting is worse than a waste of time anyway. Don’t think that the bureaucrats really care about it one way or another. It’s all for show.


The Gimlet Eye says:” Voting is worse than a waste of time anyway. ”


Good, please tell all your friends this, over and over.


I have, and most of them agree. Alas, it’s only dreamers like you who persist with their cherished illusion.


Sweet dreams, my dear fellow.


If driving is considered a privilege, then why extend privileges to people who are breaking the law by being here illegally? Are we not a nation of laws?

Deportation, rather than licensing seems the appropriate action to undertake.


Are you kidding? We are NOT a nation of laws. We are a nation of crony capitalism. Big difference. To put it other ways, we are a gangster state, a police state, a warfare/welfare state.


We are also now part of the coming NAU (North American Union; google it), so things are changing in ways that you will not like, already do not like. If you don’t plan to get used to it, better speak up, because pretty soon, you won’t be ABLE to speak up.


A fiscal-military state.


The Gimlet Eye says: “We are also now part of the coming NAU (North American Union; google it)”


We did, it’s just more beating the of the drums of fear and igniting the torches of the foolish fear filled rabble.


http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/nau.asp False, Your use of the words do not make it true.


My, that’s profound:–(


Its the democRATS, more guberment programs, more guberment staff, more staff, more taxation.

DemocRATS pledge——

Rule number #1.Create more Entitlements and get more recipients, legal citizens or not.

Rule number #2 Raise taxes on the working, redistribute to the non-working.

Rule number #3 Tell the citizens over and over and over and over again this is good for them.

Rule number #4 Repeat rules 1-3 until you bankrupt the citizenry, and then borrow more then you can ever pay back. Then scare such citizenry by taking away basic public services. and their right to bear arms.


One small but critical correction–it’s the COLLECTIVISTS (they can belong to ANY political party, or to NONE).


:)


Rule number 5 The Gimlet Eye says:” Voting is worse than a waste of time anyway. ”


That’s profound, too, kettle! May I quote you?


When the ILLEGAL people from the south of the border are able to take the California DMV test in ENGLISH, then, and only then, should California even think about giving a person the chance to drive in this state LEGALLY, and at the same time, being here ILLEGALLY!


The irony is that one can take the DMV tests in Spanish, but, the California road signs are shown in ENGLISH!


PO officer: “Pedro Alejandro, witnesses have stated that you caused this accident where two people were critically hurt. What happened?”


Pedro Alejandro: “Lo siento, no sabía lo que esas señales de la carretera dice volver allí.”


PO officer: “Huh? Hey, can we get a Spanish interpreter over here so I can understand what Mr. Alenandro is saying!”


Spanish Interpreter: “Officer, Pedro Alejandro is saying that he didn’t know what those road signs back there said because they were in English, and he only recognizes Spanish words.”


PO officer: “You mean the english written signs back there that said ‘merge left, construction zone ahead, reduce speed to 35 mph?”


Spanish interpreter: “Yes.”


PO officer: “What the hell, how did this person get a license to drive if they can’t read the California English written road signs, for Christ’s sake?!”


Spanish interpreter: “Uh, because the California DMV has allowed illegals from Mexico to get driving licenses even though they are here illegally and can’t speak the English language, that’s why.”


Seemingly, this example defies all logic. What Angela Sanbrano should realize is that our state would have more “public safety” if the illegals learn the English language! No more having your cake and eat it too!


Ted, I’ve never felt closer to you than in this moment! Excellent post.


danika,


“Ted, I’ve never felt closer to you than in this moment!”


Dear, whether your loving statement is a Freudian Slip or not, your message of “closeness” from you particularly, happens on a daily basis for me with other women as well. Once around brother Ted, many Sisters of Eve feel the same way that you do.


But, I am terribly sorry to inform you that I have enough women in my life at this time and cannot even think of adding another one to the stable.


What I will do is this. if there is ever an opening in the future, you’ll be the first one that I’ll contact. Giving you hope for the future is the best that I can do at this time.


Yes, it does seem divisive, doesn’t it, Ted?


Here’s an idea! We can set aside a Spanish speaking territory just for them.


Or, we could follow Belgium’s example and put English signs in English territory, and Spanish signs in Spanish territory.


I had no idea that a driver’s license would suddenly make a person a better driver! I am wondering though, are the written tests required for obtaining a license also available in Spanish? If so, are we going to start translating all of our road signs as well?


It seems logical that unlicensed illegal immigrants may drive even more cautiously- especially since being pulled over should not result in merely a ticket, but the impounding of their vehicle.


I agree with you, kayaknut- If the state would sell all of the impounded vehicles taken from these unlawful drivers, we could generate revenue. And considering the number of illegal immigrants driving on the road, it can help cover the cost of the free health insurance, cash aid, food stamps, and education they are receiving.


The DMV has to be THE most inept division of our state government. Am I really supposed to take what they say seriously? Lmao!


Did you hear the one where Governor Brown said our State now has a balance budget???? Yep, he sure did…


How, exactly, does having a drivers licence influence driving ability?


Is it that the DMV believes that their testing will teach illegals to drive, or is the testing simply to weed out the bad drivers, as is the case for the rest of the legal applicants? The bad driver’s will not stop driving just because they failed the test. And, with regard to insurance, acquiring a driver’s license does not automatically cause that person to buy insurance anymore than it does to the throngs of licensed drivers that continue to drive uninsured. Just start enforcing the laws on the books, instead of inventing bull***t to lift the tent so the camel can get its nose under the tent! (hope I don’t need to explain that one to anyone reading this)


I can-not believe this ! What about insurance ? They are driving now …. with no license…AND NO INSURANCE.


Get a grip photocal, insurance is not required to have/get a drivers licence.


Also confusing the issues and shouting is a sign of …………


“Then they get on the internet and complain about the government while beating the suburban jungle drums of single slogan mantras…. Taxes! Mexicans! Guns for everyone! Fence the border! Move to Arizona!” your comments……. and you talk about someone else confusing the issues????


kettle,


Huh? What state do you live in?


“Before you get behind the wheel―even if you are a new driver practicing to take the driving test―you must have car insurance. Check out our Insurance Center to shop for the best rate.


http://www.dmv.org/ca-california/apply-license.php#Get-Car-Insurance


Kettle…. First… I wasnt shouting… just stating a fact. Yes … I was shocked that DMV wanted to issue licences to illegals. The CHP pulls over a auto without current tags on the plate, the driver has a rather tan complection,.. no license, and the CHP is racial profiling ? How long have You been in California ? DMV will issue a person an ID card to carry… but its not a drivers license….. Ted Slanders blog at the top of this page… is not a joke……but a very true story. His bible references, at times, I dont agree with, but I’m still not shouting ! I guess the hard facts… to some sound…. like shouting. I have a solution… DMV drivers tests, should be in English only. Can’t read…. no license. Very easy to understand !


Yes, it is rather contradictory, isn’t it? But then, what do you expect from government, something that makes sense?


Why not instead of rewarding breaking our laws we actually inforce them and when a person drives through a checkpoint or is stopped and cannot produce a valid license we impound their car, ticket them and deport them if here illegally?


Sure until some republican forgets his licence, and his suv gets impounded.


Then they get on the internet and complain about the government while beating the suburban jungle drums of single slogan mantras…. Taxes! Mexicans! Guns for everyone! Fence the border! Move to Arizona!


I didn’t say “forgets his license” I said can not produce a valid license, through the use of computers it should be easy to tell the difference between forgetting a license and confirming if a valid license even exists


It doesn’t have to be as Republican! It could be ANYBODY!


A police state is not particular!


But this gets into another problem entirely. Why should we allow the police to stop us in “checkpoints” without probable cause?


The fact that they MIGHT catch some illegal aliens or drunk drivers is no excuse for violating our Constitutional rights. The Nazis brought “law and order” and made the trains run on time, too!


These dragnets are unConstitutional and the stuff police states are made of!


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