Are immigrants to blame for California’s drought?

May 26, 2015

immigrationA statewide media campaign pinning blame for California’s drought on immigrants has kicked off a debate on whether state immigration laws have an affect on water shortages. [LA Times]

Santa Barbara-based Californians for Population Stabilization has long called for tougher immigration laws and stricter enforcement of existing ones. The group, which is known as CAPS, is now running television commercials arguing that California’s natural resources cannot sustain the current levels of population growth.

“If Californians are having fewer children, why isn’t there enough water?,” a young boy asks in a CAPS commercial that has aired across the state.

CAPS is also asking its 128,000 Facebook followers to “Like if you agree California’s drought could have been prevented with responsible immigration policies and limited population growth.”

Some academics and columnists have publicy agreed with the CAPS stance on the drought. Stanford academic Victor Davis Hanson wrote in a National Review column that California has well over 10 million more residents now that it had during the last drought in the early 1990s.

Hanson and others say California census data shows that 1 in 4 residents was born outside of the country.

UCLA astrophysics professor Ben Zuckerman said California’s rapid population growth is essentially due to people coming from other countries, as well as the children of immigrants. Zuckerman, who also sits on the CAPS board, says that impacts the drought.

“The larger the population of California, the more difficult it will be to deal with the effects of the drought,” Zuckerman said.

But, some drought experts disagree and point to other factors as causes of the drought.

NASA climatologist William Patzert said the drought is caused by meager snowpack and poor planning, “not because the immigrants are drinking too much water or taking too many showers.” Blaming the drought on immigrants does not fit the facts, Patzert said.

Others point out that the majority of the state’s water is used to support agriculture and that immigrants tend to live in multi-family dwellings, as opposed to higher-consuming single-family homes. Stephanie Pincetl, a professor at UCLA’s Institute of Environment and Sustainability said Californians would better served by tearing up their lawns than kicking out immigrants who contribute to the economy.

“Do we want to have economic decline?” Pincetl said. “Do we not want to have agriculture? Do we want to not have housekeepers?”


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Jorge Estrada

I remember when Spanish was a foreign languish and we had plenty of water. I also can remember when everyone worked hard for a living, we were thin and lanky and english was the spoken languish in resturant kitchens. Today we get paid well for doing little, are fat, lazy and spanish is what you hear in the kitchens. Does any of this have anything to do with our water shortage? Sure it does because we need more people, to feed us, cut our grass or do anything that requires swet. Sure there are exceptions, as in LOTTO but factually we are sluggards that need our immigrant support staff. Then there is Mother Nature who reminds us.


Slowerfaster

If CAPS, Hanson, and other externalizers are looking for blame and scapegoats, why not target a more obvious culprit: GRAVITY !


Water takes the path of least resistance, and seeks the lowest level. Must be a nefarious plot by gravity to help prevent people of all kinds from using the water we all deserve.


Or maybe we can should curse the weather god Jupiter for being so stingy towards us mere mortals !

Hard to know which of the over 40 Rain Gods from around the world who could be at fault, though the closest would be the southwest To Neinilii or Shotokunungwa..

They were here first, so they may not look so kindly towards non-native peoples whose ancestors moved here from somewhere else.


hijinks

We are a nation of immigrants. If you’re reading this, unless you’re 100% Chumash, you’re an immigrant.


This outfit has a long history of immigrant bashing, but apparently never bother to look in the mirror to see that immigrant face staring back.


In short, they are bigots.


Immigrants just don’t make the rain stop falling.


unlisted

Even the Chumash are the descendants of immigrants. It’s just that their forefathers arrived at least 10,000 years before the rest of ours.


ml1999

We used to be a nation of legal immigrants, now we are a nation of illegal immigrants. California continues a decline downward.


kettle

The most populous state will be fine.

Arizona has plenty of room.

Many dusty rocks.


Ted Slanders

Any population control in California goes directly against biblical principles and should not be condoned, so saith our Savior Jesus the Christ. But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.” (Acts 5:29)


As our Hebrew God of our Christian faith so states, ALL WOMEN are to be submissive to the ruling man, and this means the making of babies to please our God. Besides, if women want to be saved, then they must be open to child-bearing, and if they don’t, they are not saved.


“Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.” (1 Timothy 2:11-15)


Our Christian God also promotes the concept of many children to a family so we’ll have many Christian soldiers in the future spreading the Gospel, praise!


“Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward. Like arrows in the hand of a warrior are the children of one’s youth. Blessed is the man who fills his quiver with them! He shall not be put to shame when he speaks with his enemies in the gate.” (Psalm 127:3-5)


“And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” (Genesis 1:28)


Bottom line, TRUE Christians cannot support any population control whatsoever. Besides, this is all moot anyway because Jesus is coming soon.


Pelican1

No, but the leaders and the lawmakers who chose to either ignore existing immigration laws, or pass new laws that would address the overwhelming population growth while giving little or no concern for natural resource sustainability.


unlisted

Xenophobia raises its ugly head again.


unlisted

The xenophobes are sure out in force today!


ml1999

How bout how Mexico forcefully defends her southern border?


moderator

Huh?

Guatemala is a problem for Mexico???


Slowerfaster

The US should be more concerned about Canada !

Look at Ted Cruz and Justin Bieber !


Slowerfaster

I congratulate Victor Davis Hanson and the members of CAPS on having the wisdom to select parents so obviously to their liking.


Black_Copter_Pilot

Yeah, Pincetl, ag and housekeeping are the best that the illegals can do. I can’t believe she said that. The argument itself is ludicrous.


abigchocoholic

Yeah, Pincetl, ag and housekeeping are the best that the illegals can do

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Who said anything about the best? Reality check for you. Go around your community and take a poll on who is doing the ag and who is doing the house cleaning and who is doing the landscaping.


It is what it is not what you want it to be.


Rich in MB

Congestion on Roads/Freeways…

Overcrowding in Public Schools….

Emergency Rooms impacted….

Sure immigrants (Legal and Illegal) are affecting those things, but its’ CRAZY talk to try and blame the States poor water management/infrastructure on Immigrants.


Did Immigrants keep the State from building dams…no Liberals did that.

Did Immigrants require the release of Millions of Acre Feet of water for the Delta Smelt Fish…No Liberals did that.

Did Immigrants make building Desalination plants too costly due to California Coastal Commission and other regulations….no Liberals did that.


Immigrants are not the cause of the water shortage in California forks….Liberals are!


hijinks

Aren’t immigrants liberals? Seems to me I’ve seen a rant or two about that before, Rich.


AmericaBeautiful

Yes, cuz democrats & RINOs, aka “liberals” promise freeeeeee stuff galore; …. and who pays for it? Me & YOU.


Moderator

Rich in MB Enough with the repeat slogans re:Liberals Liberals Liberals Liberals Liberals Liberals Liberals


We have lost count how many times you have blamed Liberals (in the comments) in the last 30 days.


From the guidelines No “flogging dead livestock, repeat slogans,”.


AmericaBeautiful

Yes, and ILLEGAL immigrants are exacerbating the problem.


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