District 3 Supervisors debate drug testing, oil and taxes

April 30, 2016

AG Forum

Two San Luis Obispo Supervisor candidates said they would take a drug test if asked, while the third said he was opposed to drug testing because of privacy reasons, during a debate Thursday at the South County Regional Center in Arroyo Grande.

“As a San Luis Obispo County employee, I am required to take a random drug test,” the question read. “Would you be willing as a supervisorial candidate to submit to random drug tests.”

Hill responded first with surprise at the question and then objected to employee drug testing, aside from public safety staffers, because of privacy issues. He failed to answer whether or not he would agree to take a drug test.

Former Grover Beach mayor Debbie Peterson said she would take one that night. Peterson said the county considers supervisors to be first responders.

San Luis Obispo City Vice Mayor Dan Carpenter said he would take a random test anytime. He also noted that while working at the Diablo power plant he was subject to random drug testing.

All three candidates said they were opposed to the proposed Phillip’s 66 rail spur. Nevertheless, Carpenter and Hill sparred over Hill’s ads claiming Carpenter is in favor of the rail spur.

Carpenter said that on Feb. 19, 2015, he voted along with the rest of the San Luis Obispo City Council to copy a letter to the SLO County Board of Supervisors voicing their opposition to the rail spur.

“The supervisor continues to run ads that says I am in favor of it,” Carpenter said. “That is the caliber of this individual who will do anything to get reelected.”

Hill responded by saying Carpenter was trying to bait him.

“Dan’s going to try to bait me all the time,” Hill said. “We know that depending on where he is on any day, we don’t know what he stands for.”

Hill and Peterson both said they are in favor of a proposed half cent sales tax to pay for road work. Both discussed traffic congestion and noted that tourists would end up paying about half of the tax.

Carpenter said that state legislators have squandered gas tax monies that they have an obligation to send back to local agencies. He said that passing the tax would be rewarding the state’s bad behavior and that the county should demand it gets its portion of the gas tax monies back.

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If Debbie is really thinking she is going to win district 3 supervisor seat WHY has she not been knocking on doors in Slo the largest area of voters in the district? I have not seen one Debbie Peterson sign in Slo.

Why is she not seen at council meeting or supervisor meetings?

She knows she is not going to win, but her ego won’t let her step aside and just let a viable candidate take Adam out in 35 days and be done with it.

She is wasting the time and energy of her volunteers by just having them work the coastal area she is comfortable with. If she really wanted to win she would have spent a lot more time in Slo trying to get the voters to know who she is.

DEBBIE you have good money chasing bad at the moment, that does not make you fiscally responsible with money. If you really think about it you can’t get the votes you need.The honorable thing would be to step aside and let Dan have what little voter base you have so we don’t have to wait until November to take Adam out of the game.

Though even if Hill is replaced in the June election is it not the case that the replacement will not take office until what is it December?, can you imagine the damage Hill will do between June and December.

Kayaknut, I get what you are saying, but look at the damage he has done for years. Maybe the board will decide to vote 3-2 against Adam and Bruce until December.

Sometimes Bully’s don’t take the loss to well and the wind goes out of their sails.

Adam will get the message loud and clear if he goes down in flames the first go round. Debbie had said early on, if it became apparent she could not win she would step aside. Debbie if your word is any good NOW is the time to step aside, take one for the team.

Have you heard this radio Ad on Kvec?

In fact there are several. For a low budget campaign they are knocking out of the park!

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jmjG2VC9i8

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDDt9OcN03I

3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyfMrwePCsE

4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2xYUzAUVK8

Them the testimonials that are numerous on his front page website dancarpentersupervisor.com

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owiWzKq2dw0

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkoZqjT9YBE

3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5MBTtf-FWo

4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9eZfa7QMyA

Here are just 4 there are 15 in all.

Dan is the Man and vote for Dan Carpenter for 3rd District Supervisor in June

Drug testing is too arbitrary.

It costs a lot of money to do, and then in order to do it “right”, it almost has to be done like drug and alcohol services does it- which is a method they call “color testing”. People are assigned a “color”. Let’s say 7 colors are assigned to various people in Drug and alcohol programs. Every morning, people call to see what “color” is due for testing. If your color is chosen, those people must report for drug testing. Failure to show up for drug testing is viewed as a drug test fail.

To me, what would be the only “fair” way to do it. Just assign people colors or numbers, then periodically have people who match that color go in for testing.

Even IF people test positive for a drug, THEN what? A person in CA with a medical marijuana card may have free right to smoke when not at work. Someone with chronic pain and on meds might test positive for opiates. If they have a prescription, then what?

I think the bigger issue is what others have touched upon, and that is hypocrisy in politics. Don’t ask your constituents to do what you the candidate are not willing to do.

“Let’s say 7 colors are assigned to various people”, would we be able to find seven colors that are politically correct, this being CA and all. No red, brown, black, yellow, purple, green, white, pink, blue, likely any variation of these colors would be out. So I’m thinking you can not use colors, numbers would be out too since that would show a “rating” and that too would be a political no no.

“Don’t ask your constituents to do what you the candidate are not willing to do”, elected officials have been breaking this for several decades, perhaps even centuries but that would take some deep checking.

Carpenter may have violated FPPC laws by reporting volunteer work as “campaign contributions.”

Wow in that letter to her supporters Debbie is starting to sound like Adam Hill. I guess maybe she is thinking if you can’t beat him, join him.

Are you that desperate to validate yourself as a candidate?

Adam Hill, are you so saturated with cocaine and alcohol that you refuse to drug test?

Im sure Hill reads these posts so here is a challenge for you little man Hill. Since you dont believe in drug testing, then lets see you stand up to local governments and rid them of this policy. Either that or STFU and stand in line for a piss test like the rest of us public servants, take your pick.

like Caffeine & Alcohol?

Can we test them for lies & corruption?

Would any of them pass?, most elections our choices are decided by not which one lies or is corrupt but rather trying to pick the one that lies and is corrupt the least.

Adam only wants to see “public safety staffers” receive drug tests? I take that to mean; Sheriff, Firefighters, nurses and doctors. What about all those public works individuals who design bridges and important infrastructure? How about those operating heavy equipment? Bus drivers? Why not the election officers entrusted to tabulate the very election he hopes to win?

My question is who should be exempt from drug testing? Supervisors? Seriously? Some decisions Adam has made have clearly been made while intoxicated or is he just stupid? I guess you can’t test Supervisor’s for stupidity…or maybe you can. VOTE HIM OUT!!!!

debbie it is. Carpenter is unacceptable.