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60-year-old woman murdered in Paso Robles

April 20, 2012

Paso Robles police arrested a 35-year-old woman for allegedly murdering a 60-year-old female relative in their home on the 900 block of Olive Street.

At about 6:15 a.m., neighbors called 911 to report hearing sounds of breaking glass and arguing coming from the home where the woman’s body was later found.

Police arrived to find the 35-year-old sitting outside the home. She is now in custody.

At this time, police are not releasing the name of the victim or the suspect.


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The “let’s maintain a cheery outlook on life, and ignorance is bliss” groupies have descended on this story blog.


There is a place for the “cheery outlook on life” tourist industry winery people, but right now Paso needs some bulldog people to put us back on the right track. Finding out about “safe mode” procedures instituted by App/Solomon is not the same as blaming the Paso Robles Police.


Your attacks on Mary Malone are unwarranted and ignorant. Please, get informed and stop with the “outlook on life” dribble.


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No, your wrong citizen have a great day, if you don’t like other’s opnions and responses and disgusting rambelings don’t read them.. Ignorant is writing an essay without knowing the facts, of a situation but using that situation to once again lash out at someone or something. I hope you have a nice day, I was taught the first time i responded to a post in here that I could be called names, because I didn’t agree.. I pulled up my big girl pants and responded again…Deal with it or not, truly I stand by everything I wrote…


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QUOTING TAKEABREATH: “No, your wrong citizen have a great day, if you don’t like other’s opnions and responses and disgusting rambelings don’t read them….


QUOTING COLLINS ENGLISH DICTIONARY:

hypocrisy [hɪˈpɒkrəsɪ] n pl -sies

1. the practice of professing standards, beliefs, etc., contrary to one’s real character or actual behaviour, esp the pretence of virtue and piety

2. an act or instance of this


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Where are you from Citizen?

Here in the US, we have this honored document called the Constitution. In this document, it spells out that we all have a right to a fair trial, due process, etc.


I can certainly understand the snap judgment of the daughter on the front step.

However, our Officers need to have all of the facts prior to sending it to the court system. They can not make a snap judgement or it would get thrown OUT of court. This is good news for all of us.


Your views on life are your Constitutional right.

Our lives are very short and we as American’s get to live as we choose.


Thank goodness for YOU, as you remind me I am on that right track.

God Bless you!

Have the day of your choice buddy :>)


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Fernella. “Where are you from Citizen”?


Dear Fern: I’m familiar with the US Constitution. All of my relatives made it to the US by the early 1800’s, before the Civil War. Some were in the Revolutionary War, and some hid American soldiers from the British. Members of my family have served in every war except the Spanish American War and the Korean Conflict. Nice of you to ask. How about you?


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Thank you Fernella, for writing. I have been watching this website for too long I think maybe not the articles, but the comments. I am sorry for typos earlier, I am just so fed up with someone who sits at a keyboard and judges where I live, without being here. I do live here, all along I have stated there needs to be change, but to to take a death that unfortunately could not have been stopped by any police officer or any safety/service mode and attempt to use that as pawn against anyone is just sick. I don’t even know Lisa S. I don’t know App. But to use this terrible situation to gain some sort of sick agenda, is just going to far. Why??? And why would someone take this article to do that.. Instead of just talking, get up and volunteer, become involved, you don’t have to do it slinging hate, and unnamed sources, and I don’t apologize on my comments to Mary Malone, she is so full of sexual and inappropriate comments on my town that I am fed up. She chose to write in this forum, just as I did. If someone calls me out on it I look at, find out the facts and if I am wrong admit, I did just that in articles before, when something I said came out wrong. She has never done that, and worse when confronted with facts she runs to the Bell Issue, or goes on another Lisa S., rampage on sexual stuff that has nothing to do with the facts. Which I may add, she has never seen, or observed but chooses to use that for her agenda. I can’t live in hate, I can however have a good day despite how the town is being run, or the county, or the world take a look around, there is corrupt city govts., everywhere. My Town is not the worst I am a true Bearcat. I take pride in the good if you call that a cheery outlook then so be it. My head is not in the sand, I am a part of the Solution. It may not be your way Citizen, but I will gladly listen to what you have to say. But I will not be a Bulldog, I will not be bullied, and I most certainly will not stand by anymore and read pure B.S. without responding or questioning. I do wish you all a good day or evening…


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I totally agree with you!! I am glad to see another reasonable voice. It is very true that if you post a view that is contrary to some, you get bullied and beat up on the blog. I am more than happy to read and absorb, but some of the vile and just plain mean things that people write is just wrong.


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QUOTING TAKEABREATH (04/21/2012 at 8:48 pm): Instead of just talking, get up and volunteer, become involved, you don’t have to do it slinging hate, and unnamed sources, and I don’t apologize on my comments to Mary Malone, she is so full of sexual and inappropriate comments on my town that I am fed up.


QUOTING TAKEABREATH (04/21/2012 at 5:14 pm): “No, your wrong citizen have a great day, if you don’t like other’s opnions and responses and disgusting rambelings don’t read them….


QUOTING COLLINS ENGLISH DICTIONARY:

hypocrisy [hɪˈpɒkrəsɪ] n pl -sies

1. the practice of professing standards, beliefs, etc., contrary to one’s real character or actual behaviour, esp the pretence of virtue and piety

2. an act or instance of this


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I don’t believe anyone has condemned the work the PR Police Officers are during, the problem was totally with the leadership and it’s policies as far as we know, First, my condolences and prayers for the family of this womean as this is another tragic story.


Next, until proven otherwise I respect and support our Police Officers. Can anyone on this site realize the microscope these people are under. Think for a moment about: The difficulty of the job, the unfortunate leadership of an idiot, the lack of support from adminisstration and council, the “moles” in their association (who to trust who not), etc. Please, support these folks and stop the harrassing, second guessing, and negative complaints. This really is unnecessary at this time.


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I offer my heartfelt condolences to those who knew and loved this woman. I am so sorry for your loss. I extend blessings to you in this very difficult time.


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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SHE WAS MY GRANDMA, AND THE BEST, SWEETEST, LOVING PERSON EVER <3 :((


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Wow Mary.

You have some serious anger issues.

You have gone WAY overboard again with your Diva ranting.

Never have been a fan of Ms S, but I DO have confidence in the folks we have left (as few as there are).


Mary, you are being hateful and out of control.


Someone has been killed tonight. She was not only a Mom, but much more to so many.

Show some respect.

God rest this poor women’s soul.


We have an amazing detective force. We support you and know you will do your best to solve this case.


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you just realized Mary is a mean…person??????


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No, not just realizing it Harim… Fed up!

She is part of the problem not the solution!

I normally am very tolerant.

Simple solution … Skip her posts.

I still have somethings is like to say to her, but, I would prefer to not drag my mouth in whale poop.


Life is only as bright as your outlook!


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Yeah, “this is the first day of the rest of my life,” yadda yadda yadda. Sounding like Lisa Solomon on facebook isn’t helping your cause.


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Your opinion of me is not germane to the discussion. Attack the message, not the messenger.


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Wow, then I guess this applies to you as well, thanks for providing it:


QUOTING COLLINS ENGLISH DICTIONARY:

hypocrisy [hɪˈpɒkrəsɪ] n pl -sies

1. the practice of professing standards, beliefs, etc., contrary to one’s real character or actual behaviour, esp the pretence of virtue and piety

2. an act or instance of this


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From Fernella,


“We have an amazing detective force. We support you and know you will do your best to solve this case”.


Fernella: You don’t get it, do you?

The woman’s daughter was sitting on the front porch with her slain mother inside when the police arrived. We may have an amazing detective force, but it wouldn’t take a genius to ascertain out of the two women, who was the victim and who was the suspect? I’ll say that one more time, slowly. Out of the two women, who was the victim and who was the suspect. Want to venture a guess?


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Wow, Fernella. Why can you only attack the messenger and not the message? Is stinking up the board with red herrings the best you can do?


There is nothing disrespectful about voicing the possibility that the victim might not have been murdered if the police had not been hog-tied by Lisa Solomon’s failed policies. What IS disrespectful is using the victim’s death to criticize others for wanting to make sure this type of senseless loss of life does not occur again.


You can have no idea of what my emotions are when I post, which means the majority of your post is nothing but an empty attack.


I have a tremendous amount of compassion for the officers who have suffered under the failed “leadership” of Lisa Solomon, and who must now–even after she was drop-kicked out of the PD–follow the worst of her policies, such as her two-level response restrictions (“Security” and “Safety”). I have no doubt that the officers want to go out on the calls. However, they are hog-tied by the dregs of Solomon’s failed policies.


I have no doubt the detectives are great at what they do. However, it is thanks to Lisa Solomon’s failed policies that they are not allowed to do their work. If you read my post, detectives can only investigate certain crimes, the ones Lisa Solomon felt were important when she was chief. For instance, a theft can only be investigated by detectives if it is more than $10,000. If it is less than that, and the officer who responded to the call cannot solve the case on his visit, then the crime is “inactivated.”


if you want to be angry at someone for demeaning the PRPD, turn to Lisa Solomon. I’m just the messenger.


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Is responding to a domestic disturbance allowed under Lisa Solomon’s “Safety” level of police-department operation?


Would the victim still be alive if not for the policy instituted by Lisa Solomon? According to Lisa Solomon’s “Paso Robles Department Interdepartmental Memorandum,” (http://www.scribd.com/doc/8523…, sent to city manager james app on 1/27/2011, Solomon announced she was instituting two levels of police response:


1. “SECURITY” level (full staffing on board for the shift)


2. “SAFETY” level (less than full staffing on board for the shift)


The changes Solomon initiated are as follow:


1. “SECURITY” level, when they had full police staffing, are:

● “No response to non-injury collisions.”

● “DELAYED RESPONSE TO LOW PRIORITY INCIDENTS.”

● “Property crimes under $10,000 loss will not be referred to Detectives for follow up. If they cannot be solved by Patrol, they will be inactivated.”


2. “SAFETY” level, when there is less than full police staffing, are:

● “No response to non-injury collisions.”

● “NO RESPONSE TO LOW PRIORITY INCIDENTS.”

● “Property crimes under $10,000 loss will not be referred to Detectives for follow up. If they cannot be solved by Patrol, they will be inactivated.”

● “…cold report and nuisance calls with no ‘conflict’ potential will be handled by a Community Services Specialist (Yamall / Patenaude). If there is no CSS on duty, citizens will be directed to file reports / complaints online. Reports made online will be assigned for follow-up when potential suspect leads exist.”

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A “family disturance (nonviolent),” according to Lisa Solomon’s policy, would be a “Priority Three – Crimes with No Significant Threat of Serious Injury or Major Property Loss” level. Because it is a “priority three” incident:


● Under Solomon’s SECURITY level of PD operations policy, it would be met with a delayed response;

● Under Solomon’s SAFETY level of PD operations policy, this type of incident would not be responded to at all by the PRPD.


In both SECURITY and SAFETY levels of operation, “Murder” would be a “Priority One—Immediate Threat to Life Exists” level. It doesn’t say Attempted murder”…just “Murder.”


Do screams and the sound of breaking glass constitute a “violent” “family disturbance”? If my china cabinet fell over, with the glass doors opening and my china and depression glassware crashing to the floor, not only would you hear the sounds of glass breaking, but you’d most likely hear me screaming, as well, even though there was no “family disturbance” in progress.

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● The victim died at “around 6:00 am.”


● ”The police responded to the residence at 6:15 am,” after the 60-year-old woman was dead.


QUESTION 1: Was the Paso Robles Police Department operating at a “SECURITY” or a “SAFETY” level?


QUESTION 2: When did the first call about this incident reach the PRPD?


QUESTION 3: Was the PRPD response sent out BEFORE the victim was thought to be dead, or AFTER the victim was thought to be dead?


This is important information to know because, if the PRPD was on SECURITY level, and the call was not considered to be a Priority One or Priority Two incident (i.e., “violent” “family disturbance” or “murder”)—according to Lisa Solomon’s policy memo—there would only have been a delayed response. When someone is being murdered, any delay can be fatal for the victim.


If the PD was on SAFETY level operations, and the incident was judged not to be a Priority One or Priority Two incident, the police would not have responded at all—until the incident escalated to a Priority One or Two incident. The murder of this 60-year-old woman DID escalate to a Priority One event–she was murdered. Would the incident have escalated if the police had responded immediately?


The victim died at 6:00 am, and the police responded at 6:15 am.


Absent Lisa Solomon’s change in response policies, could the officers have intervened in time to stop this murder?


If that was the case, then the Paso Robles City and their PD would have been a contributing cause to the victim’s death.


Would the victim still be alive today if it wasn’t for Lisa Solomon’s policy changes regarding officer response by the PD?


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Idiotic response, Mary. You need to look into getting a life


Sincerely


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That is the most idiotic post I have ever read, Mary Malone. Not only idiotic, but extememly ignorant. You have no idea what time the call came out, what time Police arrived. You know nothing and look like a fool. Guess what? Solomon is no longer Police Chief. What else? You have no idea what service/safety mode is or if it is even implemented any more. Put your pitch fork away and get a life that does not revovle around Solomon. I think you are a stalker! See how easy it is so write something with zero foundation and pure speculation? You should be embarassed by your ignorant POST, but of course you will not be and rush to defend yourself. Ridiculous.


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The PRPD safety/service mode has remained unchanged since Solomon resigned. Domestic dispute calls are still not considered the highest of their priorities.


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How can you defend that ignorant POST of Malone? Ohh you are co-conspirators, I forgot! Any you know that the policy has remained unchanged because why? The sad thing is Danika, is you never take the time to do your own research, talk to people, etc. You and Maolone just spew your vile and leave it at that. You are soooo wrong to thing that DV’s are low priority. Get clue. Go find another cause, put your pitchfork away, and pull your head out.


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Where did I precisely defend her post? Nowhere. I simply offered fact based on documentation provided by the city. When asked if PR is still under the same “safe mode” policy that was imposed when Lisa Solomon was police chief, my response was clear. Yes. That “safe mode” policy was provided to the public and printed on The Tribune website a few weeks ago. Now, I assume the city DOES know what policies it has imposed, yes?


In truth, Dogpound, you have no idea of the amount of time I spend “doing my own research, talk to people, etc.” If you did, you would work harder to be a part of the solution, not the problem.


Have a great day. It is gorgeous out there!


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You need to do more becaue you have no concept of “safety mode”, if it is even used any more, has it been modified, etc.. Why are you so upset about call prioritizing anyway? Standard. You are interpreting a piece of paper. What is written and how it is actually carried out is often two different things. You really beleive the Police would delay a response to glass breaking and people screaming? Really? That is an active domestic violence, where does that fall on your precious list?


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According to the memo, when the department is on Lisa Solomon’s “safety” level, the officers cannot even respond to domestic disturbances which are not violent–that falls under Priority 3.


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To Dogpound: We only know about the safe mode procedures from the city’s internal memo. If you know more about it, please elaborate.


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I already have elaborated, people choose to ignore. Some people on this site dig their heels in, and bury their head in the sand and will not budge. I have an open mind and will listen. I do like to debate, but not argue. People are saying that they have the safe/service mode documnet that proves what they are saying is correct. Big whoop. Things that are written down as policy are often tweaken, modified, interpreted, and acted upon differently. EVERY PD prioritizes calls, that is standard. They hold calls of parties and barking dogs to make sure there is personell for domestics, fights, etc. No cop is going to hold on a domestic, a DUI, a fight, drug deal, etc. The memo is an outline of how to prioritie, that’s all. How do we even know that it is in effect still? This was becasue of short staffing issues. I heard the PD has 5 or something new cops.

I am not sure what questions remain. certain people are planting their flag in this memo as gospil and they are sadly mistaken and misdirected. They chose not to read or look at another opinion that is contrary to theirs.


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If you read the article on the Tribune, the victim died at 6:00 am, and the police response was at 6:15 am.


If you have questions about my resources, please ask.


I would prefer if you would refrain from attacking me without asking for my resources first. It just makes you look foolish, and it does notthing to advance the discussion.


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Wrong, wrong, wrong. First how can the Tribune determine time of death?? How can they possibly know that the vicitm was deceased at 0600?? You have no resources other thatn what CCN prints. You are so very wrong that the police do not respond to domestic vioence calls. I think you are interpreting the memo wrong. The scenario you are talking about is for “cold” domestics. Incidnet is long since over, one party is gone, the other party is now just calling the police, no danger to vicitm, etc.. In reality, those don’t hold either. Barking dogs do. Party calls do. Really Mary, you write with such vile but you really have zero information to go on.


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NO ACTUALLY THE POLICE HERE SHOULD HAVE RESPONDED TO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND YOUR RIGHT NO ONE KNOWS WHAT TIME MY GRANDMA PASSED AWAY…

I HATTTTTEEE PEOPLE LIKE YOU ALL ON HERE


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The Victim would be alive today if there wasn’t such a thing as ‘Mental Illness’. This truly is the saddest and most thoughtless response you could have ever made. I imagine that you blame Paso PD for the random stabbing at the Laundry mat as well. I almost feel sorry for you Mary, you must have a horrible outlook on life to even think that way..I truly am grateful you don’t live here.


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You cannot say that the victim would not be alive today if it wasn’t for “mental illness” because the police officers would STILL be hog-tied by Lisa Solomon’s failed security/safety policies.


You keep trying to make it seem that PRPD policies have nothing to do with response time and their ability to keep the people of Paso Robles safe, when that is simply not true.


Fifteen minutes are 15 important minutes when there is a domestic dispute in progress that ends up in murder.


Under Lisa Solomon’s policies, if they were instructed to operate at the “safety” level of services, they would not be allowed to respond AT ALL to a nonviolent domestic dispute. Since the domestic dispute occurred indoors, no one could say definitively whether it was violent or not. In that case, the officers would not be allowed to respond to the call until it escalated to a priority 1 or priority 2. That is EXACTLY what it did: escalate to murder, a priority 1, at which time the officers, under Solomon’s “safety” level of services, would then would be allowed to respond.


I hope to God this is NOT what occurred–but it certainly could have. AND it could occur in the future, too.


This type of risk–that all Paso Robles citizens face–will continue to exist until Solomon’s failed policy is rescinded.


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Again you have no clue and your diatribes are getting old.


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Did someone kill her own mother?! Yipes. What’s this country coming to?


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