Morro Bay officials shut down business competitors of council members

February 17, 2014
red tag placed on the former Morro Bay Sun Bulletin building last Halloween

Red tag placed on the former Morro Bay Sun Bulletin building last Halloween

By JOSH FRIEDMAN

(Editor’s note: This is the first in a series about allegations of abuse of power and selective enforcement of laws in Morro Bay. Several videos, showing police and planning staff interacting with people who have business interests in the city, are attached at the bottom of the story.)

Morro Bay officials have targeted new start-ups in the city that would have competed with businesses operated by current and past city council members, several businessmen say.

Morro Bay’s planning and permitting offices, city attorney’s office and the police department have taken part in the effort to restrict competition, the businessmen said.

The Morro Bay Police Department set up a plan to shut down a proposed arts center in the old Morro Bay Sun Bulletin building, a department memo obtained by CalCoastNews shows.

The arts center was the brainchild of Jim Davis and Rick Holliday. The two signed a master lease for the 8,000 square foot Sun Bulletin building at 1149 Market Avenue in May 2011. They planned to create a center for the arts, which would incorporate music, an art gallery, offices and some type of eatery.

The Morro Bay building located at 1149 Market Ave.

The Morro Bay building located at 1149 Market Avenue

When they tried to submit their building permit and business license applications, city staff called them into an impromptu meeting with then-Planning Director Kathleen Wold. Wold refused to accept their applications and architectural plans and instead ordered them to construct a tavern or hotel at the Market Avenue building, Davis and Holliday said.

“I remember distinctly her saying you can’t do music. You have to do a tavern or hotel,” Davis said.

Wold then threw the plans down on a planning table and ordered the pair to meet with the city attorney and police chief, Davis and Holliday said.

Davis and Holliday then met with Rob Schultz, who was Morro Bay’s city attorney, and then-Police Chief Tim Olivas. John Weiss, owner of Coast Electronics, who was present at the meeting, confirmed that the meeting occurred.

Schultz also ordered Davis and Holliday to put in a bar or motel, the two men said. No options were allowed.

“It felt intimidating,” Davis said. “The tone was harassment.”

Schultz went so far as to warn them about going into competition with established business owners in Morro Bay, Holliday said.

Schultz denied the allegations, calling them ridiculous.

Holliday said a councilwoman, who owned a business across the street from the building, too, threatened him about going into competition. Carla’s Country Kitchen owner Carla Wixom, then known as Carla Borchard, sat on the city council from 2008 to 2012, when she unsuccessfully ran for mayor.

Shortly after signing the lease, Holliday was eating breakfast in Wixom’s restaurant, he said. Holliday told Wixom that he and Davis were thinking of putting in offices, hosting bands and creating some type of eatery.

“She said straight up that will never happen,” Holliday said. “She said you will never get a competing business there.”

Wixom denies the conversation occurred, saying she never spoke with Holliday about his business plans.

But, Holliday said she told him several times that he would never open a competing business and made jokes about him being unable to get permits and a business license.

By the end of 2011, Holliday ended his lease, saying it was impossible to operate a business at the location.

Davis continued his efforts to start up the arts center. In early 2012, he was joined by Los Osos Mexican Market owner Rey Diaz. Diaz moved into the downstairs, with Davis retaining the upstairs. Diaz planned to open a Mexican market in Morro Bay. His Los Osos location sells groceries and includes a grill, where customers eat Mexican food.

On Jan. 14, 2012, Diaz arrived at the building to move in his belongings. Just after Diaz arrived, police officers did too, according to graphic artist Toby Schultz, who was working in the building at the time.

The officers said they were responding to a report of an illegally parked car but proceeded to question Diaz about the business he was putting in the building, Schultz said. An officer then asked Diaz if he would be going into competition with Wixom.

“‘So, you’d be in competition with Carla?’ That was exactly what he said,” Schultz recalled.

After questioning Diaz, the officers walked over to Wixom and spoke with her for at least ten minutes, Schultz said.

A second witness, who asked to remain anonymous because of fears of retaliation, said the officers spoke with Wixom for about 20 minutes following the interaction with Diaz. Before the police went to question Diaz, Wixom was pointing them in the direction of Diaz, the source said.

Wixom said she does not recall the incident and that she would not have directed the officers to Diaz. She said, though, that she is close to police officers and talks to them frequently.

Diaz would not comment on the incident. Diaz does not want to upset city officials, several sources said. Diaz is concerned that it might jeopardize his use of the building.

The Morro Bay police log for the day shows that officers were responding to a “suspicious person incident.” City Attorney Anne Russell did not provide the names of either the person who was considered suspicious or the complainant when CalCoastNews requested the records under the California Public Records Act.

Since then, Diaz had begun to construct the market and gained preliminary approval to open the business. He has not received permission from the city, though, to operate a grill.

As Diaz flirted with opening the market, Davis continued to pursue his dream of hosting bands in the upstairs for private video production and small performances. Davis managed to host several bands in the building and even shot a music video there. City officials said he could only use the property for storage.

On Oct. 31, 2013, the Morro Bay Police Department issued a memorandum planning a raid on Davis’ activities. In the memorandum, Police Commander Bryan Millard wrote that Davis and Holliday had been hosting parties with live bands and that a disturbance would likely take place that evening. Millard directed the officers who would respond to the party to obtain a signed noise complaint from a neighbor, issue a citation and call the city building inspector and fire marshal, who had volunteered to come out to the scene after hours.

Although Holliday had been gone from the building for nearly two years, Davis hosted performances and had planned a Halloween party with a live band that night.

Paula Radke, who lives in a nearby commercial building called the police to complain about the noise. Radke told CalCoastNews that she had been instructed by neighbors to make the call before the event began. Radke says she lives legally in the building, but city files show that she applied for, but never obtained a permit allowing residential use.

Police officers Gene Stuart and Sue Gomes responded to the noise complaint and told her to sign a noise complaint, Radke said.

Stuart and Gomes called building inspector Brian Cowen and waited outside the building for more than 20 minutes before approaching Davis, a video made the night of the raid showed. While waiting for Cowen to arrive, Stuart ordered the band’s drummer to continue playing music.

“Go rock one more,” Stuart said on video. “Just do the song.”

Stuart and Gomes later issued Davis a disturbing the peace violation, charging him with a misdemeanor.

Officer Gene Stuart speaking to Jim Davis

Officer Gene Stuart speaking to Jim Davis

When Cowen arrived, Davis would not allow him to enter the building. Then, without inspecting the building, Cowen declared the entire 8,000 square foot structure unsafe and ordered everyone to leave, the video shows.

“They essentially shut us down,” Davis said. “It’s a total violation of property rights and free enterprise.”

Cowen said that the building tenant and party host had violated state codes. But Cowen did not cite the particular codes, the video shows.

“Per state law, you can’t use this building for any use other than storage,” Cowen said to Davis on the video. “By having these people in the building, you are endangering them.”

But Cowen refused to explain how he had made the determination that the building was unsafe.

Cowen red-tagged the building. Red tagging requires the city to shut off the water, gas and electricity and bar the public from entrance. Cowen later posted a notice citing state building and fire codes.

A few months later, the San Luis Obispo County District Attorney’s Office dropped the disturbing the peace charge against Davis. Millard, though, said in an interview that his officers acted appropriately.

“We do work with the planning department as a partner agency in enforcing the laws,” Millard said.

The memo resulted from a meeting of the code enforcement committee, Millard said. The committee, which is comprised of representatives from different departments, including police and planning, meets to discuss code enforcement issues in the city, Millard said.

Code enforcers do not act on behalf of council members, Millard said.

“There is no direct action where a council member would talk to an officer and action would take place,” Millard said.

Building owner Clark Kayler, a Sacramento-based woodworker, said having his building red tagged was like getting slapped with a scarlet letter.

“They are allowed to just label a building unsafe,” Kayler said.

Kayler said the city has selectively enforced legal codes against him since he purchased the property in 2009.

Morro Bay planners have denied all business proposals for the Sun Bulletin building that occupy a cumulative total of more than 2,000 square feet. The city cited parking requirements as the primary reason for the occupancy restriction, even though the property includes an adjacent gravel lot.

Additionally, city records show that businesses have occupied the entire building on multiple occasions, dating back to its construction in 1969. The original business, a marine supply manufacturer and retailer, even used the parking lot for business activities, according to Morro Bay resident and former store employee Eddie Sylvester.

“When we were there, no one could park in the lot because we had it full of equipment,” Sylvester said. “The city uses parking against people when they want to.”

Market Ave. during business owners

Market Avenue during business hours

Other businesses on the block have grandfathered status and have no parking requirements. Radke’s business relinquished its parking lot in a property sale and remained open. Still, about one half of the parking spaces on Market Avenue are unoccupied during business hours.

Morro Bay has singled out his building, Kayler said.

“The scrutiny is not there for some people, and the scrutiny on my property never ends,” Kayler said.

Both Kayler and Morro Bay Councilman Noah Smukler, point to a 1986 city plan as evidence that the building owner has the right to make use of his property. The Beach Street Area Specific Plan calls for the protection of commercial activity in the area despite the existence of neighboring housing.

“It clearly shows that building has a right to be utilized,” Smukler said. “We have a specific plan that was approved and the community has adopted.”

The plan also called for the city to create parking stalls perpendicular to the sidewalk on Market Avenue to increase the amount of on-street parking. The city created the parking stalls on bordering Surf Street but never did so on Market Avenue.

One resident in the adjacent neighborhood is Councilwoman Nancy Johnson. Johnson’s Morro Avenue house with an adjacent vacation rental looks down on Kayler’s building.

Several individuals involved with the building allege that Johnson, also a political ally of Wixom’s, has frequently surveyed the property and rallied neighbors to oppose business activity there.

“I heard Carla and Nancy were really active down there in trying to fight that,” Smukler said.

Johnson said she never opposed businesses at the building and rather worked to lure them in.

The building is currently vacant, with the exception, of containing some Mexican market equipment. No new tenants have arrived since Halloween night when the building was red tagged.

Holliday and several associates have filed suppression of business and harassment claims against the city. Davis plans to do so as well, he said.

 

Audio and videos of the Halloween night incident:

Audio of Morro Bay Police officer Gene Stuart telling a man wanting to attend the Halloween party at the Sun Bulletin building that he gets a free pass to urinate in the street. Stuart does not want the man to tip off the building tenant that police are outside.

Video of Morro Bay Police officer Gene Staurt explaining that he has been up 36 hours and knows something is going on, but he is not sure what that something is because of his lack of sleep.

Morro Bay Police officer Gene Stuart says he is going to give a noise violation, but then orders the band to play one more song.

Morro Bay building inspector Brian Cowen says Jim Davis is violating state code though he will not divulge what code is being violated. He then red tagged the building.

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MB Police Memo by CalCoastNews


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Someone win the lottery and donate a million or two to CCN. I tried last night and lost. We gotta make sure Josh gets to follow through on this important story for Morro Bay. Can hardly wait for the next story – supposedly something’s coming out Tuesday but I don’t know if that means CCN or at the City Council Meeting. Hopefully, people will go to the meeting on Tuesday and comment.


Ditto. Everyone who values the truth and wants honest government, please donate to CCN. Every little bit will help keep us clean up corruption.


honest government???????


Bringing this here again so offenders will see it

Everybody, less about each other, much less, insulting nicknames and so on.

Future insults and the rest of your comment/s go in the bin. you have been warned.

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Edit Moderator #2 I have never seen a article’s comments descend so fast, so far into name calling, personal attacks, ad hominem’s and various verbal upchuck’s as these Morro Bay political articles.


whereabouts question removed by request ,original author . ???-!!!! email please. orphan replies deleted.


Rick Holliday wrote a very long post about this but for some reason it’s all the way back on Page 1. I don’t know how to do a link back to it so I’ll paste it here and probably get it deleted:


This is Rick Holliday and I’m not using a “fake name”! Now dig this Morro Bay…….

I’m giving you the truth and backing it up with video, audio, pictures, documents,

witnesses and the law, period! Anyone can say anything here…..Let’s see your proof!

I have mine and all of you get to see it starting with the CalCoastNews articles but

stay tuned because there is more, lots more coming!

Now to set a few things straight!

1. Jim Davis and I did get a permit in 2011. Check with the city!

2. 1149 does have fire egress both inside and outside! Check with the city! And

Brian Cowen knew this and I can prove it, he is a liar, period and the upcoming

deposition(s) will prove it, stay tuned!

3. We did try to submit our business application/plan with the city but

(Kathleen Wold) they would not accept our application and informed us that we

would have to take a mandatory meeting with City Attorney, Rob Schultz and then Chief of Police, Tim Olivas before the city will take your application. Check with

Rob Schultz, Tim Olivas or John Weiss, owner of Central Coast Electronics in

Morro Bay!

4. Brian Cowen has been inside 1149 Market St., in 2011!

5. Rob Livick (Public Works) meet me at 1149 Market St. where I informed him (and

proved that the street, sidewalk and grading is off according to city documents).

This was very upsetting to Mr. Livick as it appeared that the owner of the building

might own four or five feet into Scott St! Interesting, check the documents for

yourself, take the measurements like I did, it’s way off!

4. I never held a function at 1149 or 1147 Market St. I never served any alcohol, food etc. at any event located at 1149 Market St. and have not been associated with

1149 Market St. property since late 2011! Why is there a MEMO from the police

Dept’s. commander stating that “I’m selling alcohol, having parties etc.) Again! I

have not been at the location for years! But what most of you don’t know that the

police officer(s) who investigate this for the city get 5% OVER PAY, for

investigating me, for how many years? Great “investigating” commander, in case

you missed it….

I’M NOT THERE ANYMORE!

Please pass that on so the citizens don’t have to fund your 5% to investigate me! How much did that cost the tax payers not to mention the fact that, wait for it…….

THE D.A. DROPPED THE CASE BECAUSE OF LACK OF EVIDENCE!

5. I did hire both a graphics designer and architect to work on our business layout for

both structural and concept plans/ideas for the business etc. These documents

were shown to city staff in 2011! They flat out told us that the zoning and parking

would not support the project and that we would not be able to move forward! This

was a lie and we proved it to ALL CITY STAFF!

I have been reading all the comments from everyone and want all of you to understandwhat is happening in Morro Bay, there busted!

City officials, police, public works, city council and many more individuals will fall! I

have been working on this non stop with many others, NONE OF WHOM IS MAYOR IRONS! Get that right! Mayor Irons may have so things to explain……..

I took all of my evidence to Mayor Irons, in a private meeting in San Luis

Obispo. The mayor was shown and told by myself and others at the meeting that we had irrefutable, hardcore, smoking gun evidence with video, audio, documents and

witnesses to back up are statements!. The Mayor listened to all we had to say and

then refused to take the evidence to review or even pass on! The Mayor asked me

why I was doing this and why was I giving him the evidence. I stated that he is the

“highest ranking official in Morro Bay, who else should we give it to”?

The Mayor said that he did not want to take the evidence because he was going to letcity attorney, Rob Schultz go and did not want to have evidence that would force him to fire Schultz with cause, as this would turn into a major lawsuit rather then just

being able to let him go! The Mayor of Morro Bay refused to take evidence that was

presented by citizens showing city officials, staff and others, oppressing harassing,

lying and intimidating citizens and businesses of Morro Bay. The evidence further

showed city officials denying due process to the citizens of Morro Bay and the

general public.

I filed a lawsuit against the city and have filed claims against the city for what they

have done to me and the citizens and businesses of Morro Bay.

Brian Cowen (Morro Bay city building inspector), Tom Prows (fire Dept.), Jeff Olson

(fire Dept.), Commander Brian Mallard (Morro Bay Police), city council and staff,

including the city attorney have all failed to preform their duties, under color of

authority and government codes, to the citizens of Morro Bay and the general public who can only operate in GOOD FAITH!

Then city attorney, Rob Schultz told us that the only business he was going to allow at 1149 and 1147 was a”Tavern or B&B of some kind”. He said that we should start

developing plans in that direction. Jim and I stated that there are plenty of bars and

hotels in Morro Bay and that we did not want a bar/tavern/hotel/motel etc. It became obvious that the city was going to make us do what “THEY WANTED” and so I

informed my partner, Jim Davis and the Owner, Clark Kayler that do to the fact that

the city of Morro Bay would not let us proceed with or business license, I would be

unable to commit to the project. Mr. Davis ( and I, unknowingly) became the target of the cities elite. Stay tuned because unlike 99% of the people who post on here……

my name is RICK HOLLIDAY and my evidence (not gossip!) supports only the truth!


Thanks, slophocles. I think a lot of us would have missed this since it somehow ended up on the last page.


This is really interesting. It sounds like everything may come out as the lawsuit progresses. I have a feeling there will be a lot of interested parties in that courtroom, unless the matter is settled out of court.


I hope CCN will be publishing more of the evidence cited by Mr Holliday. What we have seen so far is pretty disturbing, but it sounds like it may be just the tip of the iceberg. As more evidence comes out, I’m afraid that the picture of our City government under the last administration will become darker and darker.


With regard to the current administration, I was disappointed to read Holliday’s statement that Irons would not accept the evidence offered to him. If what Holliday says is a true and complete accounting of the facts, then it seems to me that this could have been handled a lot better. I’m not sure what the better way would have been, but maybe Irons should have taken the evidence and promised Holliday a full investigation after Schultz’s termination was complete.


It sounds like he made a mistake that was based on an attempt to protect the City – an attempt that backfired due to lack of knowledge of legal matters but obviously, good intentions are not enough, and if Holliday’s allegations are true, Irons made a significant mistake.


Now, it seems, we have simply exchanged one lawsuit for another. However, in Irons’ defense, I think it must be acknowledged that he was trying to protect the City, and that he had to do the best he could without the help of the City Attorney, since that city attorney is one of the alleged villains in this story.


Maybe the new permanent City Attorney will be able to bring the two sides together and sort all of this out to everyone’s satisfaction. It sounds like what Holliday really wants is for the facts to be known, the guilty to be appropriately dealt with, and some compensation for his financial losses. He doesn’t sound to me like he is out for blood – only justice.


MBA1


I like how you said Iron’s made a “mistake” ? Iron’s many mistakes while in office just a short time has cost we the taxpayers a bundle so far.


FYI the time stamp on every comment is a link to that comment


select the time stamp with your mouse right/control click copy link location , paste


Useful tip. Thanks, Zaphod


This just like the article on the power plant is completely misrepresented


Interesting……..what was the date of the meeting that Mr. Holliday had with Mayor Iron’s in SLO?.


Now that, givemeabreak….. is the million dollars question!…. and I can’t wait to give that information in OPEN COURT one day! Stay tuned!


Why wait for court Mr. Holliday?


Rick Holliday to givemeabreak……I don’t want to!!!!!! ……but my attorney (and others!!!???) have asked me to wait! So……I wait, and wait, and wait as the wheels of justice move very SLOW!!!!!! But my court date is set and the subpoenas are out next week so stay tuned. If you want to see the full video tape of what happened on 10/31/2013 with Jim Davis just contact my attorney, David Vogel at; 540-7100 and leave your address, I will get you a copy asap! Our YouTube channel is almost complete with all the video uploads and next week you will be able to see all the videos (over 60!) we have taken and make up your own mind on what going on in Morro Bay!


And sucking the good out of everything that is life.


No, but the Bay News finally addressed the John Solu departure from the Planning Commission what, two months after the fact? Solu’s excuse: “I feel I can volunteer and be more effective with other things than the planning commission.” I hate to think what “other things” are, and I don’t know why this increase in volunteerism he’s going to shoulder for us was so urgent that it couldn’t wait till after his term, but whatever. At least it wasn’t the old “to spend more time with my family” excuse. What I really love about Neil Farrell is that he knows exactly how much breathing room to give his buddies before reporting anything negative about them, and he sticks it ever-so-subtly into an article about something else. That’s gooo-oood-ol-boy!


The types of activities alleged to have occurred in Morro Bay are not unique in small towns. A little pond with a few big fish calling the shots. The city officials are generally “hand puppets” who do as they are told out of fear of being fired and thereby damaging their ability to get a better job. In Morro Bay the police chiefs were scared of their own shadows and in the case of Chiefs John DeRohan and Tim Olivas they were a pair of tools. Like the tweedle dee and tweedle dum of law enforcement, which is why their city is still paying out claims for official misconduct by their officers.

Hopefully, the voters will clean house on the city council, but if the only people who show up to vote are the “big fish” I won’t hold my breath..


The reason why we are paying out claims is because we lost our competent city attorney.


Rob Schultz was a cancer on the citizens and small businesses of Morro Bay (in my opinion, legal disclaimer!). Stay tuned, it’s all coming out!


Refusal to recognize a whole other set of facts that exist in this story — or any story — is irresponsible and suppressive. CCN’s dedicated readers will have to decide: Is it really worth suffocating democracy just to suit the personal agenda of one weird turnip pushing the post button again and again in a closet in Morro Bay?


CCN readers deserve far better. I trust them and urge them not to listen to broken sirens, but to take the time to dig deeper for the whole truth. Information has no bias. Knowing everything there is to know will only make you smarter and wiser. It’s your ultimate protection against being tooled. Use it… or lose it.


Oh my, here you go again trying to shoot the messenger. Your comments obviously make no sense, and here are some of the reasons why.


1. CCN has no reason to favor any particular political faction in Morro Bay. In fact, believe most of their staff live elsewhere. They have proven time after time that what they care about getting the truth out. They will expose corruption wherever they may find it, and whomever is responsible.


2. CCN has no reason to suppress facts and it is clear they did not. They gave the key players in the story a chance to speak, and included their statements within the story.


3. CCN published hard evidence in the form of video and audio records and an official memorandum, so that readers can draw their own conclusions. Because the videos and audios are public record, any member of the public could request and review them in their entirety.


4. CCN has a STAFF. There are a number of people working there. It is a professional news organization that includes, among others, an editor and a publisher with whom the buck ultimately stops for every story published. There can be no doubt that the content of this story was thoroughly reviewed, and perhaps edited, before publication.


You can’t hide behind that old cliched “don’t shoot the messenger” tripe, especially when your message is your personal agenda, which I don’t share. My comments make more sense than you can admit, and here are the reason why:


1. I have no problem with CCN staff. However, they are only as good as the information provided — or sought — and key information they have been provided only comes from people with serious credibility issues, issues that should vetted publicly. But that sends you wailing for the moderator. Boo hoo!


2. CCN didn’t suppress facts, they just didn’t get enough of them for the story to hold up, that’s all. They should have dug a little deeper. Maybe the story would have held up if they talked to anyone else in town who knew Davis was running an illegal bar and nightclub in the building. You were never there and wouldn’t know.


3. I love CCN videos. Keep them coming. But they have absolutely nothing to do with getting the whole story and getting it right. Davis is not the victim he makes himself out to be. Do the videos also show him charging at the door of his illegal nightclub for food, booze and entertainment?


4. Yes, CCN has a staff and a good one, but they rely on the writer and the writer relied on his sources, and his sources told him half the story, and people like you cheer him on, but you can’t base serious news on information slanted toward one side of any story. Had they known that Davis was leaving out a few things, that he was shut down for good cause, that he was selling booze without a license, without permits, etc.. etc… well, what kind of story would we be reading then? A more interesting one, to be sure!


Give us a break, cowpetal. Every poster’s message is his or her own agenda. Your posts are your agenda. My posts are mine and the same goes for everyone who comments on the articles. That’s what the comments section is for – to get a variety of viewpoints from people with a variety of agendas.


That said, I’m still getting the feeling that you are unclear on the subject of the story. The subject is NOT what Davis might have been doing wrong. The subject is what City officials and staff might have been doing wrong. What Davis was doing is merely incidental to the story.


At issue is the fact that police and planning officials and city attorneys and building inspectors are not allowed to take just any kind of action they want if they do not like what someone is doing or wants to do. They cannot circumvent the laws and the rules, or make up their own laws and rules, merely because they find it convenient to do so. However, in this case, the evidence indicates that is exactly what happened, and THAT is what the story is about.


Just to clarify another issue, while you claim Davis was running “an illegal nightclub”, it certainly does not appear that he was doing so, and the police did not file any such charge. In fact, Police Commander Millard’s memo says, “There are parties and/or events being held here on some weekends with about 50 attendees and live bands. Alcohol is also being served.” One might say exactly the same thing about rented halls where big birthday parties, wedding receptions and anniversary celebrations are held. A band and alcohol do not make a nightclub – especially when the events are only on ”some weekends”. Furthermore, the only thing Davis was charged with was making noise, and as the story says, the D.A. even dropped that charge.


You say the writer relied on his sources and his sources told him half the story. Really? Did you even notice that he talked to both Carla and Nancy Johnson. Do you really think he would have failed to ask the police and the building inspector for their comments? He is a reporter. Of course he would have asked them to comment. Whether or not they chose to provide statements for publication was their decision. My guess is that, for legal reasons, they probably declined. That is not the reporter’s fault. Don’t shoot the messenger because someone declined to give him a message.


Naturally I disagree with you MBA1. You admit to having an agenda then claim everyone who writes here has an agenda. That’s projecting. Not everyone is selling something like you. Relentlessly pressing agendas such as yours should not be the “new norm” anywhere. You’re a true cynic.


You also seem to recognize that Davis did some stupid things. Not to include that as part of the story is wrong, especially since it reflects directly on Davis’ credibility, rendering the one-sided story sterile. It also shows Davis motives’ in trying to get some ink.


You keep yapping about the city… blah blah blah. Go ahead, chew on the city’s ankles if it temporarily satisfies your lust for city blood. I know you’ve got to have it to survive.


Thank you for citing Police Commander Millard’s memo regarding alcohol being served illegally at Davis’ joint. Since you never stepped foot in the place, you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, just manufacturing conspiracy theories out of pettiness.True, no charges were filed. If they were I’m not sure what they would be. “Lucky Jim” there. But it will come up in court if Davis is foolish enough to go there.


Regarding Mr. Friedman having talked to Carla Wixom and Nancy Johnson, that doesn’t tell me anything about the interviews, whether they were given fair treatment or quoted accurately. I DON’T SEE WIXOM OR JOHNSON QUOTED ANYWHERE IN THE ARTICLE. Did Mr. Friedman tape his interviews? WHERE ARE THE DARN QUOTES?


I think what’s missing here is a hard case worthy of Mr. Friedman’s hard evidence, because clearly there’s no complaint of any substance or consequence to be found here. So go ahead, bust a cop or city staffer. Yeah, go ahead, sue the city if you like suing so much. Maybe it will soothe your savage breast.


I have to admit, though, I’m perplexed why you keep evoking ye olde cliche “don’t shoot the messenger” as if that shields you from being wrong. Because it doesn’t. Constantly guessing about things you don’t know anything about just to hear yourself talk doesn’t make you a messenger, it just makes you delusional thinking you are.


BRAVO Cowpetal!


BRAVO to you, givemeabreak! You have the courage of a lion.


Rick Holliday to “Cowpetal” …..Why the fake name? And your comment “and key information they have been provided only comes from people with serious credibility issues, issues that should vetted publicly”. Let’s get to the “vetted publicly” part, and right now! The only credible people on here use their REAL NAMES!


Next, you state; ” if they talked to anyone else in town who knew Davis was running an illegal bar and nightclub in the building. You were never there and wouldn’t know”.


Well let’s address that right now, where you there? Did YOU see and alcohol being served to minors? No you did not! I think YOU just got served Cowpetal! Served the truth!


Next you state; “Do the videos also show him charging at the door of his illegal nightclub for food, booze and entertainment”?


Let me help you here, NO THEY DO NOT! AND…


You are just a “gossip hound”, go spread you BS some where else!


Your statement “that he was shut down for good cause, that he was selling booze without a license, without permits, etc.. etc… well, what kind of story would we be reading then? A more interesting one, to be sure”! is pure BS!


He was cited for a 415 and it was not the police who cited him but a neighbor, PAULA RADKE, get your facts right! And remember, cowpetal…..the D.A. DROPPED THE CASE, You know why?…………..THERE WAS NO CASE! Now if everyone will just check the facts before your write a bunch of “GOSSIP” on here this will help move the city in the right direction because it is the CITIZENS WHO MOVE THE CITY! And….what the hell is this you said?; “Since you never stepped foot in the place, you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, just manufacturing conspiracy theories out of pettiness. True, no charges were filed. If they were I’m not sure what they would be. “Lucky Jim” there. But it will come up in court if Davis is foolish enough to go there”.


Please, cowpetal, tell all the readers of your adventures into 1149! Tell us all of your personally witnessing alcohol being served! Tell us your real name! Show us your proof for court if “Jim Davis is foolish enough to go there” that you claim “someone has”, again more BS! Morro Bay needs a good and thorough house cleaning and some debris has got to go! Stay tuned cowpetal, this is for your education and a better Morro Bay for all of us!


You said, “Morro Bay needs a good and thorough house cleaning and some debris has got to go! Stay tuned cowpetal, this is for your education and a better Morro Bay for all of us!”


Thanks, Rick. Most of us are looking forward to that.


I do have to take issue with your comment about people only being credible if they use their real names. With what you know about the history of Morro Bay government, and with what you know about some of its residents, surely you understand that many people are afraid of retaliation for speaking publicly about what goes on in this town.


The corruption is not all cleaned up yet, and there is still danger to those who criticize it. We are not all as brave as you are. I have known people who had experiences that are, in many ways, similar to yours, but they just gave up and kept quiet because they felt that if they made a fuss, even worse things would happen to them. That’s how this county works. Look what happened to CNN’s Karen Velie when she dared to take on CAPSLO.


Do you remember that first Council meeting regarding termination of the contracts of Schultz and Lueker? There were a lot of us who wanted to speak at that meeting but were intimidated into silence by the aggression and hostility of a small group who hurled vicious insults at the Council and who also verbally abused people in the audience.


Some complained later to the Police Chief, but unfortunately, she said she had not seen or heard any of the intimidation of audience members – not surprising since the culprits would hardly have done anything when she was watching or could potentially have heard them.


At any rate, until things get a whole lot better around here, many of us feel safer using alternate names when we comment.


MBA1 wrote:


“Do you remember that first Council meeting regarding termination of the contracts of Schultz and Lueker? There were a lot of us who wanted to speak at that meeting but were intimidated into silence by the aggression and hostility of a small group who hurled vicious insults at the Council and who also verbally abused people in the audience.”


Again, you weren’t there. I was. Why do you have to fabricate your presence?


You really should get out more. There’s a world out there you know nothing about. Hiding in your bedroom won’t give you the honest perspective of those who were actually there. Working overtime to divide the community that has rejected you is really not a very healthy substitute for honesty.


If the truth matters to you at all, which I doubt, then why lie?


I was most definitely there. In fact, I sat right next to where Chief Christey was standing for much of the meeting – and was glad of that because it made me feel safer, although not safe enough to speak when so many people were hostile, aggressive and abusive not only to the Council but to other audience members.


As for the rest of your message, the personal attack on me is odd, completely inaccurate, and clearly not pertinent to the article, so there is no sense responding to it.


Please note that the personal attack also flies in the face of the moderator’s admonition, “Everybody, less about each other, much less, insulting nicknames and so on.

Future insults and the rest of your comment/s go in the bin. you have been warned.”


I agree. The issues in and around the story are important and that is what we need to focus our comments on. Attacking other posters contributes nothing to the discussion.


Follow your own advice, MBA1.


If you were at that meeting I didn’t see you there. Were you standing next to the Chief or behind the Chief?


I stand by everything I’ve posted about this story, and I’m not hiding from the facts wherever they come from. CCN has some of those of those facts.


If Holliday can prove his case in court, I will apologize to him, even if he won’t apologize to me for his poor reading comprehension.


If Holliday can’t prove his allegations or his case is thrown out I expect CCN to cover it — not as another cover up, but as news.


I can only hope this doesn’t offend your delicate sensibilities.


Rick Holliday to cowpetal: You said; “I stand by everything I’ve posted about this story, and I’m not hiding from the facts”…..What FACTS have you posted? Then you said; ” If Holliday can prove his case in court, I will apologize to him, even if he won’t apologize to me for his poor reading comprehension”. First let me APOLOGIZE TO COWPETAL for my poor reading comprehension, NOW as to your statement about if I prove my case in court. I, along with many others HOPE this goes to court!. Do you think the city is going to court on this????? Do you think they want the over 60 videos I have showing how incompetent city staff and employees are to go public, YouTube, CalCoastNews.Com? Do you think they want to go to court and defend against my evidence? NOT A CHANCE! I would love to go to court and let everyone see what is really going on behind the “curtain in OZ, er, Morro Bay……If you knew how bad it is you would be outraged, what…..Morro Bay, your going to get to see another video of just how bad it is on Tuesday when I drop a bombshell on Morro Bay’s police dept., and the city council! So many videos, so many documents, so many witnesses, so many laws broken……and SO MUCH TIME TO BRING IT ALL FORWARD! Hold on Morro Bay, you ain’t seen NOTHING YET! Till Tuesday……


Yes, I understand mbactivist1…. how so many have put into a “state of fear” from city staff and employees. I was a full target (and apparently still am three years after I left the building, ELVIS!) and it’s not that I’m “BRAVE” , but I am RIGHT! and my evidence will speak when the fat lady sings! Videos, audios, documents, witnesses and the law against the city, it will be impossible for the city staff and employees to explain their actions, and I got years worth! This abuse will stop in Morro Bay and March 7th may see a “NEW NAME OR TWO” in the hat for Mayor! This town needs a hero, it’s not me, I’m no hero but I’m doing it for you MBactivist1, and even you, cowpetal (who is really Aaron Ochoa) and every person who, in good faith follows the rules and is denied even DO PROCESS! It’s over, stop excepting this as the normal. Our city should be working on clean water, clean food, GMO issues and the list goes on, and on, and on! Thank you to everyone who is looking at the facts and not the “FAKES”! I don’t know what Jim Davis did or did not do when I was NOT AT 1149 MARKET STREET but I do know what happened when I was there! I never sold alcohol, I never served chicken, fish, chips etc. I never held an event at the location and Aaron Ochoa was never at any event with Rick Holliday’s name on it nor was anyone else……and that my friends (and foe’s?) is the truth! None of you have any idea what is coming, but I do, because it’s my evidence and the depositions start in a few weeks, stay tuned I’ll make sure every page goes public!


Thanks, Rick. By making the truth public, with CCN’s help, you are a major influence in making Morro Bay a better place to live. You and your evidence will be the catalysts for a major cleanup of this town.


Hey Rick……we have the popcorn ready……..bring on the videos!…….And don’t lie Rick……you know about “None of you have any idea what is coming, but I do, because it’s my evidence …… …you already said you met with Iron’s and showed him your film at 11 collection. Now wondering just how many closed door meetings you have all had. This stuff is getting pretty FUNNY. Especially since we are coming up on a new election. Am thinking a great idea would to take your videos and make election adds out of them! Now that would be some funny shi~!!!! bahahaahahahah


Mr. Holliday,


You are very confused. Show me where I wrote that alcohol was served to minors. I accept your apology in advance, assuming you have the guts. I don’t think you do.


Here are your comments from above:


“I have not been associated with 1149 Market St. property since late 2011! Why is there a MEMO from the police Dept’s. commander stating that “I’m selling alcohol, having parties etc.) Again! I have not been at the location for years!”


You haven’t been at the location for years? It sounds like you either had no idea what was going on at your building or Davis didn’t tell you what was going on there. Which was it?


Yes, I personally witnessed alcohol being served there and will testify to that under oath if called.


So Mr. Holiday, you say I’ve been served, but it seems it’s you who have been served. Served the truth. Watch what you say about Morro Bay needing a good and through house cleaning because it may well be you at the end of that broom.


It’s for a better Morro Bay for all of us!


Regarding alcohol and minors, perhaps Mr. Holliday mis-interpreted this statement from your post of 02/18/2014 at 4:41 PM as indicating a belief that minors were served alcohol:


“Davis furnished alcohol, including whiskey, vodka and brandy, on the premises without a permit, with his children on the premises, even helping out. ”


It does not appear that you said they were served alcoholic drinks, but it does sound like you think there is something wrong with the children being present.


Even if your allegation is correct, and they were there, it sounds as if the children’s role was probably pretty much what it is when anyone’s kids are allowed to attend a party where adults are drinking.


Were there a law against children being present when alcohol is served, they could not attend wedding receptions, barbecues, and a whole lot of other perfectly-innocent social functions where their elders are drinking alcoholic beverages. They would not even be allowed to bring their dad a beer from the fridge while he’s watching the football game.


As to your statement that Mr. Holliday had no idea of what was going on at his building – it wasn’t his building. Perhaps you missed this part of the article:


“By the end of 2011, Holliday ended his lease, saying it was impossible to operate a business at the location.”


Yes, mbactivist1, that was my understanding of the minor issue, again, none of Mr. Davis’s affairs are my concern after 2011. Bomb shell drop coming Tuesday! Another Morro Bay police officer caught on tape giving citizens illegal “legal advice” and mis/dis-information at city hall only to be told by the clerk that he was giving false information to the general public. Can’t wait for cowpetal’s 2 cents on this one!!! The video will speak for itself and I got lot’s more to come! Remember, deposition time in the next few weeks! Stay tuned!


Holy cannoli. Someone said the Police Chief had inherited a hornets’ nest. It sure sounds like it. Hopefully she, along with our interim City Manager, can straighten things out. With his background as a police chief, he should be able to help out quite a bit.


Thank you for your civil response, MBA1.


Yes, Holliday misread my comment. And thanks again for noting I saw something wrong with the children being involved.


However, I won’t go so far as to relegate the role of the children to that of children at any party where adults are drinking. Still, that is not my real concern here.


My concern is that the story is being narrowly focused on the what the city and staff did, which, as you’ve said, needs to be looked into. Any “crime” here still must be proven. All else is speculation.


Good point about the lease! I accept the whipping!


Thank you for your balanced response. It slightly eases some other concerns about your role.


OK, Cowpetal, let’s continue to communicate this way, and make our CCN moderator proud :)


My role, as I see it, is simply that of a concerned, involved citizen working to make Morro Bay a place where all residents are treated fairly and equally by City government, and where City government is run honestly and ethically and with an eye toward getting maximum ROI for our tax money.


Government never seems to work that way unless we the people ride close herd on the politicians and their staffs, and stories like this one raise a lot of very serious concerns.


I trust the CCN staff to do a thorough job of investigating, and I think that the story would not have been told if there were not some problems that need fixing. I have high hopes that stories like this will prompt City officials to make some positive changes, resulting in a much-better-run city.


Aaron, ops……cowpetal. If you did not say that alcohol was being served to minors that is what we wanted to hear you say, it will become important in the “lawsuit” when Mr. Davis files and does subpoena you, as you have just stated that you personal witnessed NO ALCOHOL BEING SERVED TO MINORS! So, now that “cowpetal” has testified in the court of public opinion that NO MINORS WERE served alcohol lets move on. O’ and a cheep price to pay, cowpetal… for an eyewitness to collaborate what Mr. Davis has stated, thank you! NEXT….


Your statement of; “It sounds like you either had no idea what was going on at your building or Davis didn’t tell you what was going on there. Which was it”?

ANSWER: Cowpetal, why would I care what Mr. Davis was doing in a building that I had nothing to do with since 2011? Mr. Davis and I terminated our partnership agreement and the owner, Clark Kayler was kind enough to allow me to opt. out of our agreement and allow Mr. Davis to continue, and to answer your last part of the question. Mr. Davis was under no obligation to inform me of ANYTHING, PERIOD! Next……

This is your service to me?; “So Mr. Holiday, you say I’ve been served, but it seems it’s you who have been served. Served the truth. Watch what you say about Morro Bay needing a good and through house cleaning because it may well be you at the end of that broom”.

ANSWER: Araon, ops, sorry….Cowpetal..I’m at the right end of the broom and you know it, the city know it! The police know it! and the general public know it! Have you even seen the videos? Do you understand the “real issue here”? Lives and business are at stake, people rights, your rights! It’s not you and me bitching about this or that..this is a real life story! My real name is out there! I’m real! and i’m doing it for YOU, you just can’t see through the “FOG”!


Did you have an alcohol license Rick Holliday?


For What? I LEFT THE BUILDING IN 2011 IN CASE YOU MISSED IT!,ELVIS! I never held a function or event at that location, ever! I never served anything, ever! Please catch up with all the posts and then ask another brilliant question, but if your still not clear, read the above again. So that would be a NO!


I don’t think that’s fair to infer that Pelican1 and givemeabreak are posting from a closet, nor that they are turnips – they obviously are not.


Everybody, less about each other, much less, insulting nicknames and so on.


Future insults and the rest of your comment/s go in the bin.


Act like adults or get treated like children.


? or ! moderator@calocoastnews.com


You know what Moderator? we are adults. I don’t think there is a person under 25 on this message board. I never see anything that I would call an unacceptable posting. It’s your board and your rules, but if you want traffic here I would suggest backing off a bit. This site is what I call a hard mod site. A little too much moderating and not enough free expression. It makes for a boring read in my opinion.


Rambunctious “I never see anything that I would call an unacceptable posting.”


Sure, but you don’t see the ones I am talking about. This site is not a free for all, there are plenty of places for people who want to bully and verbally slime people.


If you want to discuss please use email.


No you don’t. You hope to use her departure to fuel your conspiracy theory.


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