Trump references aplenty in Fareed-Carbajal debate

October 17, 2016
Salud Carbajal

Salud Carbajal

During a televised congressional candidates debate, Democrat Salud Carbajal tried to pin Republican Justin Fareed to derogatory comments presidential candidate Donald Trump has made, while Fareed accused Carbajal of being a “machine politician” who serves the Democratic establishment.

Carbajal and Fareed are battling for the 24th District congressional seat. The campaign has gained national attention due to its competitiveness and because of the large amounts of money flowing to the candidates.

KEYT and KCOY hosted the debate Sunday evening on a hilltop overlooking Santa Barbara. Carbajal and Fareed took questions from a group of five moderators which consisted of journalists from KEYT, KCOY, Noozhawk, and UCSB radio station KCSB. Carbajal and Fareed also directed questions to one another.

Justin Fareed

Justin Fareed

Early in the debate, Fareed was asked about Trump’s temperament and whether the Republican presidential nominee can be trusted as commander in chief. Fareed did not state whether he supports Trump. Rather, Fareed said the federal government needs checks and balances and that Congress has been relinquishing its powers to bureaucrats controlled by the president.

Carbajal was then asked whether, like Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, he has differing public and private positions. The moderator noted that Carbajal had been caught referring to Lompoc as the armpit of Santa Barbara County.

On the Lompoc issue, Carbajal said the comment was taken out of context, but he would apologize again. Carbajal then attacked Fareed.

“I support Hillary Clinton. It’s obvious who the most qualified candidate is. My opponent is on the record supporting Donald Trump. He can run away all he wants, but he was with him when he made degrading comments about women. He was with him when he made degrading comments about veterans. He was with him when he made degrading comments about the disabled and minorities. He could move away from Donald Trump because Donald Trump’s ship is sinking, but he’s not doing it out of principle. He’s doing it for expediency to save his campaign,” Carbajal said.

Fareed responded by saying the discussion about Trump was a distraction from issues that affect the Central Coast. Later in the debate, Fareed, too, went on the attack, addressing Carbajal as the pick of Washington, D.C. insiders.

“You have been in county government for over 24 years, nearly as long as I’ve been alive. You were endorsed and supported by the establishment and insiders in Washington, D.C. from Nancy Pelosi and Lois Capps before a single poll was made, before a single vote was casted,” Fareed said.

Fareed later said, unlike Carbajal, he is not a career politician.

“I haven’t spent the last 24 years climbing the ranks behind closed doors to get to a certain point to run for Congress,” Fareed said.

On policy matters, Fareed called for less government spending and regulation, a simpler tax code, market reforms to health care and the return of powers to the states under the 10th Amendment.

Carbajal called for fewer tax loopholes, more gun control, tuition-free community college, more support for Planned Parenthood and a transition to a renewable energy economy.

Despite the heated tone of the debate, Fareed and Carbajal’s views intersected on several issues. Both candidates declared support for California’s marijuana legalization initiative. They also supported desalination, particularly at Diablo Canyon, and agreed that the government should allow people with student loans to refinance their debt.

Additionally, both called for reforming the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare. However, they differed over how to reform the health care law.

Fareed said there should be more competition and market-driven solutions in the health care industry, including a change that would allow companies to sell insurance across state lines. Carbajal called for more government regulation, including premium caps. He also said Congress needs to take a look at developing government-run health insurance, known as the public option.

On immigration, Fareed was asked whether he supports policies, like a wall and deportations, for which Trump has argued. Fareed said the United States must strengthen its borders, as well as its entry and exit visa process and agricultural worker program.

While discussing immigration, Fareed also proposed a rule that would require legislation that goes through Congress to only incorporate to a single subject matter.

Carbajal, who referenced Trump several times throughout the debate said, “A wall is very silly. We know that only is a metaphor for so many other things.”

The Democratic candidate also said there needs to be a path for citizenship, and immigrants must go through background checks and pays their taxes. Carbajal, too, said the country needs to secure its borders.

On gun control, Carbajal said he supports universal background checks, bans on assault rifles and high-capacity ammunition clips and a law prohibiting people on a no-fly list from possessing firearms. Fareed said Congress needs to root out the cause of the problem, which is terrorism, and the United States needs to improve its cybersecurity.

The debate ended without candidates making closing remarks, as the moderators ran out of time.



  1. Citizen says:

    Anyone in San Luis Obispo County or Lompoc who votes for Carbajal is a fool. Carbajal is only interested in the city of Santa Barbara and his “people” (the people he has worked with–Mexican immigrants and poor veterans).

    Mr. Carbajal will not even come to Paso Robles to campaign. One visit to Atascadero and one upcoming debate in SLO is the extent of his knowledge and interest in our area.

    If he ignores us now, think how it will be if , heaven forbid, he becomes our representative. Mr. Carbajal’s interpretation of helping the middle class is helping immigrants move from poverty to middle class status.

    (8) 14 Total Votes - 11 up - 3 down
  2. Indy thinker says:

    Is is Nov. 9th yet?

    (9) 9 Total Votes - 9 up - 0 down
  3. slophocles says:


    We have a field known as behavioral science – it’s where educated individuals apply science to human behavior. They have identified certain “disorders” such as Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Below is the criteria – you only need 4 or 5 of these to qualify. How many do you think Goofball has?

    1) Grandiosity with expectations of superior treatment from others
    2) Fixated on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness, etc.
    3) Self-perception of being unique, superior and associated with high-status people and institutions
    4) Needing constant admiration from others
    5) Sense of entitlement to special treatment and to obedience from others
    6) Exploitative of others to achieve personal gain
    7) Unwilling to empathize with others’ feelings, wishes, or needs
    8) Intensely envious of others and the belief that others are equally envious of them
    9) Pompous and arrogant demeanor

    (2) 12 Total Votes - 7 up - 5 down
    • 2much says:

      Since when is it a bad thing to reference Trump? SLO, Have you and your “Educated Individuals” run your “Disorder” test past Hillary?
      It may not be the popular thing to say in this County, but… Of the two, Trump is still the better candidate (Although I would have voted for Bernie).
      I don’t like Trump and I just don’t trust Hillary… at the end of the day, I can trust someone I don’t like, but I can’t like someone I don’t trust.

      (2) 10 Total Votes - 6 up - 4 down
      • slophocles says:

        No, that’s the point – he’s not – in fact, he’s about a hundred times worse. Yes, Hillary is narcissistic, so am I and so are you, but few people meet the criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder. And we are all dishonest, including you. Do you like yourself?

        (1) 3 Total Votes - 2 up - 1 down
  4. slophocles says:

    I wonder which one of these two would last longest at a Trump rally.

    (-8) 12 Total Votes - 2 up - 10 down
  5. avidreader says:

    Salud may be the “anointed one” from the Dem political machine, but it’s time to get away from the status quo and these career politicians! Fareed has my vote.

    (22) 56 Total Votes - 39 up - 17 down
    • TeeItUp says:

      It is time to take back SLO County from the progressives that have been in power for a very long time including the sick republican progressives or those that play with the progressives to feel good about themselves.

      DO YOU remember this story? Heard it again recently…

      “Parable of the Snake and the Mouse:

      Somewhat fatefully but not unexpectedly, when Home Builders of the Central Coast (HBACC) Executive Director Jeff Eckles (who did not endorse the specific project) attempted to explain the well accepted concept of the housing ladder (the need and benefit for more housing at all economic levels), Hill publicly chided him.

      For years some members of the HBACC have played political footsy with Hill in the hope of receiving less bad treatment. You would think, that given this expression of Hill’s true colors and disdain, the HBACC and its members and affiliates would cease being bullied and would support other leadership.

      Those who have played footsy with Hill over the years need to realize that they are like a mouse placed in the cage with a Boa constrictor as food.

      At first the mouse is afraid, but often the snake is not interested and may wait hours or even days to eat the mouse.

      After a while the mouse gets comfortable and may even snuggle up to the snake. Eventually the mouse is painfully crushed, suffocated, and eaten. It’s only a matter of time.”

      That is what awaits us as VOTERS

      VOTE IN Justin Fareed

      (1) 3 Total Votes - 2 up - 1 down
  6. just the facts says:

    America is losing its sovereignty and being moved into the New World Order. All of this is happening right before our eyes, and yet the vast majority of voters have no clue! Interesting to note Trump’s comments that he wants to be the President of the United States of America and not the world. He continuously talks about the international globalist elite power brokers. He is 100% correct and those international globalist elite power brokers have to destroy him. Wake up voters!

    (19) 47 Total Votes - 33 up - 14 down
    • kettle says:

      We are awake, that is why ElTrumpo will never be President, but he will have Trump TV that will out crazy BS even fox news.

      Even now the GOP is planning another 4 years of obstructionism to keep anything from getting done. Now that birtherism has turned out to be bs, lets investigate Bill and his girlfriends because running the country takes skills and work, bullshit is effortless.

      “He is 100% correct” No, not even Trump can make up his mind.

      You lost as soon as you said :”sovereignty” and “New World Order”

      (-14) 54 Total Votes - 20 up - 34 down
      • CharlesInCharge says:

        Careful! We’d hate to anger the Tealiban.

        (-12) 24 Total Votes - 6 up - 18 down
      • slophocles says:

        And now he wants to cancel SNL.

        (8) 18 Total Votes - 13 up - 5 down
      • RonHolt says:

        Well, I could never vote for Trump for several reasons but disparging someone who distrusts the international plutocracy because they use words that YOU consider the signs of conspiracy nuts is not smart if you want those of us who think “both sides are bad” to support your side. As a self-declared moderate, this is one of the reasons that I can’t vote for Clinton either.

        She may make noises about reducing the influence of special interests in Washington DC but, given the massive amounts of campaign contributions she gets from those interests, she will have to PROVE that she means what she says before I believe her.

        (7) 9 Total Votes - 8 up - 1 down
        • slophocles says:

          I’m not sure “disparging”, or even “disparaging” is a verb, but okay – maybe, just maybe, neither side is good or bad, but one side is A LOT closer to good, or right, or even just keep-me-alive-rational-for-the-next-few-years-not-crazy, and you have been suckered so far away from the center that you don’r realize the difference between moderate and extremist anymore.

          (0) 2 Total Votes - 1 up - 1 down
  7. rukidding says:

    This whole election process has to go down in history as one of the worse things that has happened to our country. My biggest concern is what may happen to the Supreme Court? Depending on who is elected the future of the United States is in jeopardy as we know it today. What will the constitutional rights of our children, grandchildren and future generations be in the future. This is getting very scary and I’m afraid dangerous.

    (36) 38 Total Votes - 37 up - 1 down
    • kettle says:

      Don’t worry the GOP is already obstructing the future, guaranteeing nothing gets done.

      “the future of the United States is in jeopardy” Yes from a bunch of old white guys spreading misogyny and carefully couched hate speech as the world burns.

      (-18) 46 Total Votes - 14 up - 32 down
  8. Rich in MB says:

    Follow the Money….Carbajal is bought and paid for by the DC Democratic Machine…

    (30) 70 Total Votes - 50 up - 20 down

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