Police chief loses loaded gun

September 8, 2009
Lisa Solomon

Lisa Solomon

By KAREN VELIE

The emerging and evolving story of how Paso Robles Police Chief Lisa Solomon had her loaded semi-automatic gun stolen from her car that she left unlocked in front of her home has left her red-faced about how it was stolen.

In recent interviews, she has given differing stories, which conflict with court documents, about how the gun was stolen.

The incident, which occurred last year, was kept from the public until CalCoastNews uncovered the incident through San Luis Obispo Superior Court documents.

Her first version about losing the gun went like this: Solomon claimed the handgun was stolen from her unlocked vehicle during a weekend in February 2008. She said she discovered the unregistered handgun missing on a Monday morning and reported it stolen. She later discovered an Atascadero police officer had confiscated the firearm from a pair of burglary suspects.

“I immediately reported it stolen when I noticed it was stolen,” Solomon said.

However, Atascadero Police Officer Matt Chesson confiscated the gun at around 4 a.m. on Sunday Feb. 24, 2008. At 7:46 a.m., on the same Sunday morning, Solomon reported the gun had been stolen, according to court records.

Atascadero Police Chief Jim Mulhall returned Solomon’s unregistered gun to her.

According to California law, all firearms purchases and transfers must go through the Dealer Record of Sale process. Solomon said she had purchased the gun before the current 1991 registration requirements became law.

“Because I purchased it from an agency a long time ago, I did not have to register it,” Solomon said.

Then, in a subsequent interview, the police chief had a different version, explaining that she became aware her missing gun was found before she had a chance to report it missing.

“It was recovered faster than a gun could be entered in the system,” Solomon said. “The (Atascadero Police) officer put out a BOL (be on the lookout) or some kind of informational teletype so that other officers in the area became aware of this recovered gun and put two and two together, at my shop, and we were able to notify Atascadero PD.”

In yet another version, court documents, which provide an incorrect date on an arrest warrant, falsely say that Solomon reported her gun missing the day before it was recovered. In further support of the inaccurate statement by the Atascadero Police Department, the report notes that there was no match in the automatic firearms system for the weapon during the initial records search due to a clerical error.

“It was later determined that during the process of entering the information on the handgun into the Automatic Firearms System, a clerical error occurred,” according to the arrest warrant. “The victim’s handgun was incorrectly entered into the system by the Paso Robles Police Department.”

Law enforcement officials in Atascadero suspect that this is what really happened: Officers confiscated the gun fully aware that it was the Paso Robles chief’s personal unregistered weapon and that its theft had not been reported. Officers called Solomon at her home early on a Sunday morning to inform her they had rescued her gun.

In addition, sources report that the men allegedly involved in the theft of Solomon’s gun, as well as a string of other crimes, were given a break by being arrested for lesser offenses or not being accused of crimes in order to keep the chief’s missing gun from becoming public.

On Feb. 24, 2008, while performing a pre-dawn search for suspects in an attempted burglary attempt, Atascadero Police Officer Matt Chesson spotted two men sitting in a car parked next to a pump at a closed Shell station in Atascadero. The driver, dressed in all black and wearing gloves, gave the officer permission to search his white Honda hatchback.

Chesson’s search uncovered a Sig Saur handgun, seven to eight rounds of ammunition, a black replica handgun (determined to be a BB gun), a pair of walkie talkies, a chrome “butterfly” knife, and a drug pipe.

The driver, Jay Short, said the gun belonged to a friend, but refused to provide the alleged owner’s name, according to the police report.

A search of the handgun’s serial number revealed “no record of ownership” by Solomon. Chesson confiscated the gun and sent information on the discovered gun to county law enforcement agencies.

However, both Mulhall and Solomon admit that the gun in question belonged to her.

Gregory Cisneros, Short’s passenger, claimed the illegal knife belonged to him. Chesson arrested Cisneros for possession of drug paraphernalia and a switchblade knife and sent Short, “on his way,” according to the police report.

According to Penal Code 12025, carrying a concealed weapon in a vehicle, without the proper permit, is a crime.

Another burglary suspect, Gary Holloway, said during a police “interview” on Feb. 26, 2008, that Jordan McNamara had said that he was with Short when he took a firearm from a car. In addition, Holloway claimed Short was involved in other “recent burglaries and thefts,” according to a subsequent warrant for the arrest of Short.

Officers did not cite McNamara with theft of the chief’s gun, though a few months later he was charged with theft of a sheriff’s squad car, one of four felonies the 20-year-old was charged with in 2008. Holloway was arrested seven times in 2008 for offences including burglary, forgery, and hit and run.

On Feb. 28, 2008, Short was arrested and charged with two felony counts, receiving stolen property and carrying a concealed weapon.

According to court records, both Superior Court Judge John Trice and the appointed public defender stepped away from the case because of conflicts. The District Attorney’s Office asked Judge Michael Duffy to dismiss the concealed weapon charge and reduce the felony of receiving stolen property charge to a misdemeanor if Short would agree to plead no contest.

Short plead no contest to the single misdemeanor charge and Duffy sentenced him to 45 days in county jail and ordered him to pay a $400 fine.

Information that Solomon had left a loaded gun unsecured in a residential neighborhood was the latest in a string of embarrassing episodes plaguing the North County top cop.

Last year, Solomon and her husband Christopher Chitty filed bankruptcy on their custom T-shirt business claiming more than $1 million in debt. However, they continued to run a renamed T-shirt business from their garage.

The pair listed 50 to 60 creditors that included Kohl’s, Mervyns, Gottschalk’s, and Levitz Furniture.

Chapter 7 is designed for debtors in financial trouble who do not have the ability to pay their existing debts, according to the bankruptcy code. Debtors whose financial difficulties are primarily due to consumer debt are subject to a “means test” — if income is greater than the median income for the state in which they reside, the court may deny the petition.

In California, the median income, according to the U.S. Census Bureau, was $74,801 in 2006 for a family of four. Chitty and his wife’s combined income is approximately $220,000 per year, according to their sworn statements on the bankruptcy petitions. Chitty and Solomon have stated in court documents that their “debts are primarily business debts” and that no inventory from the business remains.


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  1. ccn_debate says:

    Member Opinions:
    By: David_Medzyk on 9/13/09
    Ha! Thank you Cindy. Yes, there is a comma in there :)

    Cheseburger, I agreed that she goofed hard, and should be at the least routed from office, if not held fully legally liable.

    rukidding, I understand your position, but please understand mine. The law is rather explicit on gun carry…and what the Police can and cannot do, when a citizen is found/seen/reported carrying a firearm while doing absolutely nothing unlawful.

    The majority of California gun carry laws involve criminal activity, and for those people who cannot legally possess firearms in any capacity. The laws do NOT have any provision to prohibit law-abiding citizens from carrying an unloaded handgun in those areas where carry is not disallowed.

    I don’t know how many times I can repeat it. All LEO are prohibited to take any other action than to check the firearm for loaded ammunition.

    I direct you here for information on the law and citizen rights: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum12/

    Another website only concerns itself with the lawful pursuit of firearm related activities: http://www.calguns.net . The forum here is well attended by SLO county locals who enjoy the firearms sports….and personal protections they provide.

    By: BeenThereDoneThat on 9/12/09
    I can see the point on what the law might say about carrying a weapon but I agree with the common sense arguement. I have a been stopped a few times years ago (haven’t had a ticket in years) late at night, standard stuff and watched in review side mirror as cop approaches, he had his hand on top of service revolver. One reason why I ALWAYS would put both my hands on steering wheel in plan site. Don’t want anybody to get nervous and make a bad mistake. Especially when it is my a** that is involved. Now could you imagine that is standard stuff. Now add a gun? To much risk legal or not. I do support gun ownship but choose myself to not take the risk. That is my perspective on the reality of how it is.

    By: Cindy on 9/12/09
    David says – “Cheseburger, agreed.”
    cheeseburger says – “David what exactly did I agree upon,”
    Hahhaha communication in cyberspace is so funny!! Gotta pay attention to those commas.

    By: cheseburger on 9/12/09
    David what exactly did I agree upon, that she may have screwed up, maybe the open carry works for Military personnel but the rest of the crew is right you walk around strapped unloaded carry your going to get leaned on hard by the SLO Sheriffs if nothing else, Morro bay Cops have their own tree two. If they like your piece they may borrow it and not return it. In this county it’s their boat and Military back ground or not they will not hesitate to throw down on you! I do respect your opinion and agree that open carry should be accepted, I believe it is legal because I asked a state park ranger about guns in the park for defense he said, as long as the gun is not loaded but you can have ammunition with you it is legal, I still wouldn’t try it. This has been on my mind, is it possible you could load your gun after being in a collision with a drunk driver loose your divine temper and then fill him or her full of holes. P.S. do you think the chief should be fired?

    By: David_Medzyk on 9/11/09
    Cheseburger, agreed. I have already said the Chief failed in her responsibility and should be smoked for it. The Atascadero PD also failed in their duties to arrest and prosecute suspects in possession of a stolen firearm.

    rukidding, you bet I get it. Did you simply walk up on the car and driver, or did you pull him over for suspicion?

    If you simply walked up to a guy sitting in his car outside the 1000′ radius of a K-12 school minding his own business with an unloaded handgun on the seat, then drew and cocked and aimed your weapon at him because YOU DO NOT KNOW THE LAW OR PC or even if the guy was permitted to possess. Then yes, you would be terribly at fault….and a bit hot-headed. (“Sir, keep your hands where I can see them, and step out of the vehicle. Do you have a permit for the gun? I see, thank you Sir”)

    If this was a felony stop, reasonable force.(“Partner, GUN! Out of the car numb-nuts, keep your hands in the clear!”)

    If this was a guy with a taillight out, law says all you could do was determine the gun was loaded or not….and that would be ALL you could do, since a broken taillight does NOT give you reasonable suspicion and right to search the car.(“Sir, I pulled you over because your taillight is out. Do you have a permit for that gun? May I check to see if it is loaded? Thank you Sir, please wait here and keep your hands on the steering wheel.”)

    Nope, never a Cop, but I am civil and not over reactive.

    Perhaps my indulgence in my Rules Of Engagement regulations, kept me from over-reacting to the many weapons and bad guys I encountered in a combat zone, since I already knew the limits of my and their actions.

    These same books of the Penal Code I researched and quoted, were always accessible by you too.

    By: rukidding on 9/11/09
    SSG or Medzyx you just don’t get it. Walk up on a car and someone has a gun and your going to check the legality of the person and or gun? I would suggest that you invest a real good life insurance policy. Do you know what the time period is that a police officer has to make the decision whether he wants to ask your stupid questions or whether he wants to go home to his family after work? It’s a matter of a second or less. You really need to take a reality check and maybe get your nose out of your books and military manuals.

    By: cheseburger on 9/11/09
    Stolen gun turned to gun carry debate, Medzyk, do you think she and the department personnel who aided her in the cover up should be disciplined in anyway, do you think she should resign voluntarily, or receive a slap on the wrist, a don’t get caught again by the city manager? Or do you think maybe because law enforcement is a business and the state needs revenue it should fine the crap out of her like they do everybody else? This is a little more serious then a speeding ticket, maybe?

    By: David_Medzyk on 9/11/09
    (Apparently, there are those in higher places than I who believe my posting with my rank is somehow insinuating, and a facade for, military opinion. As I never threw my rank around, nor even posted my military status, opinion, or beliefs, I am at a loss for the reasons. But…that is typical. So, I changed my sign-in name to make someone happy.)

    Cindy, other than in a National Park or preserve, taking a firearm camping is legal. Your campsite becomes an extension of home, and all laws regarding home carry and possession apply. Would your Cop friend tell hunters they could not bring their guns?

    BTW, I only wear my uniform during work or duty hours. Otherwise, it’s T-shirts and cowboy boots :)

    rukidding, if that person you drew on was doing nothing illegal at the time you approached him, and you shot him anyway…you would have been charged with at least manslaughter or more, because he had a permit that you failed to discover before shooting him.

    You say you worked in the crappiest area, so one can presume the guy was suspected of something at the time. Now, depending on when you were a Cop will determine if the gun was legal to be loaded in the car or not. Up until late 1969, having loaded guns in public was legal and acceptable. A gun on his seat was legal and safe, since you did not say if he was reaching for it, or actually had it in his hand.

    After 1969, with legislation signed by Gov. Reagan, loaded guns in public were no longer legal….HOWEVER, nothing in the legislation made carrying UNLOADED guns illegal. PC12025 to 12031 covers carrying concealed, and specifies loaded firearms. Since he had a permit, all the PC’s were nullified.

    Here’s the kicker: if there is no law that says you cannot…….then you can.

    There is no law that stops anyone (other than a felon, mental case, or Lautenberg qualifier) from carrying an UNLOADED gun with ammunition at the ready.

    Now, if you were a Cop AFTER 1969, and you drew on a guy that had an UNLOADED firearm on his car seat without determining the guys intent (did you pull him over, or did you simply walk up on him), he would have a great basis for an excessive force charge and lawsuit, especially if he had a permit.

    ThomasA, the AG “rules” are not law. The PC is law, and common sense does not figure into factual law. The PC does not outlaw UOC with ammunition at the ready. The AG’s site is mostly opinion…not law. Since you and rukidding keep repeating wrong information, you simply put exclamation points on my point that Cops do not know the law verbatim (and cannot, the PC being a very large book), and rely on opinion, lore, “common sense”, and out-dated training from Academy or morning updates.

    I’m not trying to pick a fight. I am only trying to clear up very common misconceptions about registration, possession, ownership, and legal carry of firearms and ammunition. The Chief did a major boo-boo. The Officers and Dept. that found the two turds with her gun failed to do their duty. Now we will be subjected to a veritable circus of stupid stuff as all this comes to a head in the newspapers.

    By: Booty_Juice on 9/11/09
    Love the target-red lipstick.

    By: ThomasA on 9/11/09
    Also a former (LA County) cop, and agree with ‘rukidding”. Read the Calif. State Attorney General website for firearms ‘rules’. Then, enhance with common sense, if that exists anymore.

    The Paso chief’s missing-unregistered gun circus should be dealt with by their city administrator re: judgement & liability.

    By: rukidding on 9/11/09
    SSG your misinformed again. As a former police officer working in one of the most crime ridden areas of California the closest I ever came to shooting someone was a person that was doing what you are talking about. When a police officer sees a gun he’s going to react to his training and protect himself. I still remember the hammer coming back on the gun when the person said he had a permit.
    Should you get pulled over, say in LA, San Francisco, Fresno, Oakland etc., I wish you the best of luck.

    By: Cindy on 9/11/09
    SSG says: “Cindy, how do you justify NOT being prepared to protect yourself outside of your home.”
    I don’t justify it and I was all for the fellow in NY who shot the “wana be” criminals that tried to intimidate and rob him. I was all for jury nullification, on that one.
    I just use my common sense and no one seems to know what the real law is. I don’t want to be dragged out of my car at gun point and thrown on the ground over having a gun. I once was going to go camping with my friend and we were afraid to be out in the middle of no where without protection from “Leuther types”. I called the police and asked if I could bring my gun, they said NO. Maybe you don’t get bothered because you walk around with your military uniform on?

    By: SSG_David_Medzyk on 9/11/09
    Whoooaaa!! Not “advice”, just the facts :)

    I gave you the law, facts, and Penal Codes, I never said go ahead and do so devil-may-care. I carry UOC because I have done extensive research in the methods, applicable laws, and possible consequences.

    rukidding promotes the myth that an LEO will automatically “freak out” and prepare to shoot you sitting in the drivers seat. Hasn’t happened, no reports of it happening, and no anecdotes of anything like it happening.

    There are thousands of UOC citizens calmly and legally doing their daily business with zero incidents. I have carried on the Boardwalk in Pacific Beach down San Diego way. If there ever was a bastion of liberal ideals outside of Berkeley, that would be it. Yep, got stopped and checked by San Diego County’s finest….and told to “have a nice day, Sir”, as I continued my walk from the Pelican to the custard stand near Belmont park. The “(e)” check took all of 2 minutes. Oh, I went straight into a tourist store to buy a Dr Pepper before I headed south on my walk. No-one in the store seemed to care or notice my weapon, and if they did, there were 4-6 Sheriff deputies right outside the door (normal beach patrol and patrolmen/women) less than 15′ away.

    Driving down there and back home, I had my handgun on the front seat in it’s holster, with 30 rounds in 3 magazines at the ready…..perfectly legal….didn’t matter how many K-12 schools I passed or came near, I would have no reasonable knowledge of their location. The only time I cased it, was to go onto Camp Pendelton to get gas at the shoppette. The MP’s asked about the case, I showed it to them along with my Army ID, told them I was only needing gas, and they sent me on my way.

    Ok, once again, too long a response :D

    Thinking the worst of LEO reaction, and experiencing the calm proffessional reality of carrying a firearm, are two very different things.

    Cindy, how do you justify NOT being prepared to protect yourself outside of your home. Do bad things ONLY happen inside your house? I’d like to see you explain that to the poor guy that was terribly beaten in SLO a few months ago, and robbed of his money….during the day….on the sidewalk…in a “nice” neighborhood.

    Oh, one last thing Cindy. You are committing a felony by transporting your fiream in LOADED condition, locked case or not. Hmmmmmm, dumb, dumb, dumb indeed.

    By: Cindy on 9/11/09
    Rukidding – RIGHT ON. My opinion is that it’s dangerous if not illegal to carry open weapons in the first place. It’s fine to be loaded or ready to load in our home where we protect ourselves but not on the streets. I would never leave my unloaded gun on the front seat where I could scare the hell out of a LEO. I would expect the worse reaction from them. I always lock the unloaded gun in my trunk or glove box and keep my bullets in a separate area during transport, which only happens for renewed gun lessons.
    When I purchased my legal high powered hand gun I was instructed as to transportation. I was required (or so I thought it was a requirement) to purchase a lock for it. I was told I could transport it loaded if it was locked and out of my reach. I was told I could transport it without a lock but it had to be unloaded and completely separate from where my bullets were. A couple of gun enthusiast who were also work colleagues (who are gun collectors and have years of knowledge) took me to learn how to use my gun. They were in complete agreement and confirmed the gun transport laws. It makes sense to me. Just think about getting pulled over and a LEO sees a gun on your front seat, dumb, dumb, dumb. Their is no such thing as an innocent gun in that circumstance. Guilty until proven innocent, who needs it? Not ME not THEM.

    By: rukidding on 9/11/09
    All of these opinions are very interesting although I would suggest to anyone who is considering following the advise of SSG to use some common sense first. If you do have that unloaded gun on your front seat or on your belt and get pulled over by a police officer you more than likely can expect to have a big gun put near your head or in your ear and that gun WILL be loaded. Hopefully you will not make a false move that may result in a true tragedy.

    By: SSG_David_Medzyk on 9/11/09
    Cindy..you would be wrong. There is NO ammunition transport law for California that pertains to civilians.

    The is NO requirement to have your ammunition locked up, or even separate from your firearm, nor in a separate area…as long as it is NOT in a position to be fired.

    As for carry, ammunition may be carried on the belt or specific carrier, as long as it is not carried in the weapon in a position to be fired (case law cited previously). That means no round in the chamber of a semi-automatic, or a round in the cylinder of a revolver. Nor placed in a position that mechanical manipulation will put it in firing position. That means a loaded magazine CANNOT be simply inserted for storage, as racking the slide will make it shootable.

    Concealed carry laws, basically, relate to criminal activity. A magazine is an integral part of a semi-auto pistol…they don’t work properly without one. Being so, the law allows a charge of carrying a concealed weapon when a loaded magazine is found inside the pocket of someone that has been stopped for criminal activity, even if no actual firearm is anywhere around. This is part of the “gang banger” laws passed not too long ago, and backed by case law (people v. Hale 1974).

    However…revolvers do not require loading devices to operate. So you can indeed carry your UNLOADED revolver openly, with a pocket full of cartridges. Combat savvy revolver shooters will carry their ammunition in speed loaders or speed strips for rapid loading, which can also be carried in the pocket, or on the belt if preferred.

    Since 1991, the only transfer law pertained to so-called assault weapons. 2004 saw state legislation that required ALL non-related persons to go through a gun dealer to transfer firearms. Immediate family transfers or gifts do not require this, and can be reported with the inter-familial form from the DOJ. Being 20 years old, the Chief could not PURCHASE a handgun (rifle yes), but there is no law preventing her being gifted a handgun before 21 years old. My Daughter owned her first handgun when she was nine years old.

    As to my personal carry habits, you would be wrong again. The only law that keeps your guns locked away while transporting, is PC 626.9, the 1000′ foot rule from a K-12. Otherwise, there is no provision that forces you to lock them up during transport, nor to keep the ammunition separate. As I stated, I frequently transport my handgun openly, with loaded magazines nearby or on the seat with it (unless I am carrying both while driving).

    I carry in SLO in the downtown area, but only on Marsh street since Mission School is within 1000′ of Higuera and most of the heart of downtown (can’t carry at Farmers Market). I am a regular at Ben Franklins sandwiches, and my gun is a normal sight. Never have I been confronted by Police or frightened people. No heart attacks, no screaming kids, no wrath of God.

    Now, the Police have but ONE legal option should they wish to confront me in an incorporated area, PC12031(e). They can ONLY check to see if the gun is indeed unloaded, then send me on my way with all my property. I cannot be detained, they cannot ask for identification, they cannot run the serial number. I will have done nothing illegal for them to have any reasonable suspicion.

    PC12025(f) covers concealed carry. Handguns carried OPENLY and UNLOADED do not fall under PC12025, which only concerns CONCEALED firearms. No law prohibits UOC, nor the carry and immediate location of ammunition (unless at a gun show or certain city government parks, where you cannot carry the same ammunition the gun uses. Dumb law, but true)

    None of the above prohibits my drawing, loading, making ready, or firing my handgun in the event of criminal activity.

    Cindy, far too often, as I have stated before, LEO’s do NOT know firearms law, and usually rely on opinion, lore, or what they may THINK the law says or means.

    As for how many guns does a person need?

    How many are there :D

    By: WazzUp on 9/11/09
    Haven’t checked CCN in awhile and I see some interesting responses to this article. It appears the APD Officer needs to get re-trained. It’s bad enough not hookin and bookin two guys wearing all black in the wee hours of the morning and having GREAT probable cause to do so. If he would have remembered Penal Code sections 12025(a), 12025(b), 12025(g) and 12026.1(a) Just go to California Codes, click on Penal Code and then search. It makes for good reading

    If I were SSG I would re-think carrying my 45 in a holster while driving down the road. But maybe he knows something that superceeds the Penal Codes I mentioned.

    By: Cindy on 9/10/09
    I would like to add that Lisa Solomon is 39 years old. This means she claims to have acquired her gun at 20. The fact is that it belonged to her husband and when they divorced she was required to file a record of transfer. She also has a 4 year old child and a 16 year old. I wonder which one of them mysteriously unlocked her car, get my point (if it was ever locked to begin with). I also have to wonder why Lisa keeps a loaded personal weapon handy. She has a dept issued weapon, how many does she need to carry around with her? She was carrying an illegal weapon and she knew it. This cover up wasn’t only about the fact that it was loaded in an unlocked car and stolen.

    By: Cindy on 9/10/09
    SSG, I sure hope people don’t take you at your word. You are going to end up getting people arrested otherwise. First you say that you carry or can carry your gun in your holster with your bullets or clip in your pocket. That will get you arrested dude. I know for a fact that if I am transporting my gun I have to have the bullets in a separate area and they must be locked up either in the truck or glove box. Never are citizens allowed to have a weapon that is ready to immediately “lock and load”. If anyone doubts me, try driving with your unloaded gun and bullets on your front seat, see what happens if a LEO notices you.
    I also spoke to a LEO who assured me that any gun acquired after 1991 has to be reported through means of a record of transfer to the Dept of Justice. Lisa Solomon knows that too and that’s why she has been dancing around the issue.

    By: SSG_David_Medzyk on 9/10/09
    And you musn’t be so cavalier with your firearm. Leaving it “laying about” you car may get you in trouble for a concealed weapon.

    Yes, it is legal to keep your EMPTY gun on the seat (unless in the aforementioned school zone), but if it becomes covered either partially or completely with a jacket, sheet of paper, burger wrapper, old shoe, dead cat or whatever, the officer could legally…and easily… charge you with concealing a weapon. The law is THAT picky.

    When I UOC while driving, I keep my .45 in the holster on my hip. The law does acknowledge seat belts may cover the gun, and there is no penalty for this, as it is not intentional or avoidable.

    I know I ramble on, but I get passionate about helping people learn about firearms and firearm legalities.

    By: SSG_David_Medzyk on 9/10/09
    Ahh, and this is where we get into the legal “meat” of gun ownership. California law says if you lose your gun, or it is stolen like the Chiefs, and you did not report it missing, and it is used in a crime, and a sales record search shows you owned it (remember the 20 years the dealer must keep records?)…you can be charged with negligence and an accessory.

    A few silly politicians have proposed laws that felony punish gun owners that lose their guns through theft, and do not report it within 24 hours or as soon as you reasonably should have known they/it was stolen. (lot of good that would do you if you are on a three week vacation).

    See, according to liberal politicians, it never seems to be the bad guys fault for crime.

    So, to answer your query: Yes, you could be nailed hard for leaving your gun where it can be taken.

    California law also holds that if you do not store or secure your firearm, and a juvenile gets hold of it, and commits a crime or injures themselves or others, YOU are liable for all damages and will go to jail. Now, there is no law that says you must secure your guns, only that if they fall into other hands BECAUSE you didn’t secure them, you are in likely more trouble than the punk that took your gun!

    yeah california.

    Registration is entirely helpful in getting your guns returned to you quickly, if the Police find them. Otherwise, there is a long process of contacting the manufacturer to find which wholesaler they sent it to. Then from the wholesaler, which dealer they sent it to. Then searching the dealers storage of form 4473 until they can match the gun to a purchaser. If you bought, or was given the gun from another person, the search will include that person…or persons…until the final owner is discovered. This process can take years, and may find itself in many dead ends.

    Registration will match the serial number with the registered owner, or at least the person who registered it, eliminating weeks/months/years of searching.

    Me? I keep my guns secured at all times, and never out of my sight when I go out to play with them.

    By: Unbelievable on 9/10/09
    SSG_David_Medzyk,

    Thanks for your answers. So what is the point of registration at all? What does it get you?

    So, in the end, I can buy an unregistered gun and leave it lying around in my car. The police have no rights stopping me or complaining if I have one there.

    If it gets stolen, I have no responsibility to report it missing, as anyone could have just gone and bought an unregistered gun anyway.

    This not about the Chief – you have chastised her already. I am just curious about what the laws say about guns – not owning any myself, but certainly am not anti-gun.

    Does law enforcement agree with these laws? Is there a federal policy? Thanks.

    By: Citizen on 9/10/09
    After e-mailing Jim App, I received a reply indicating that this incident is no problem. Her gun was stolen, she reported it, she got it back. End of story.

    This incident is one of several indicators–bankruptcy, a past officer of COPS now being investigated as a fraudulent charity–showing a lack of character. I have never heard one good word about Solomon’s performance except that she has gotten grants for the department and that she is a Paso girl.

    Has anyone heard anything good about this police chief in connection with her actual job–not event planning.

    By: SSG_David_Medzyk on 9/10/09
    BTDT….THERE IS NO MANDATORY REGISTRATION IN CALIFORNIA!!!

    Chief Solomon had NO OBLIGATION to register the handgun. If she indeed received the gun in 1991, there was no legal reason to use a gun dealer to transfer ownership then. There was also no reason to inform the DOJ she was now in possession of it.

    It was a gift from her husband.

    Was she negligent in leaving it unsecured? Absolutely. Was she stupid to leave it in her car? Absolutely. We must expect much much more from our top law enforcement personnel….absolutely

    By: SSG_David_Medzyk on 9/10/09
    Unbelievable….. Once again; there is no mandatory registration of firearms in California.

    The ONLY caveat to that: Wrongly named and described “Assault Rifles”, that conform to certain guidelines set forth by people in politics that have not one slight idea what they were talking about, must be registered. Near the end of 2004, Arnold signed legislation that included rifles chambered specifically for the .50BMG round to the list (which really pissed me off, as I was in Iraq at the time, and had full plans to buy one when I got home in 2005).

    Typical Sacramento ignorance of reality.

    However, A Fresno court ruling has clarified what rifles could be added to the list, and which rifles people could possess legally (Harrott v. County of Kings (25 P.3d 649 (Cal. 2001) Thus, the Off List Lower movement was born. OLL’s allow firearms enthusiasts to build and own AR15 and AK47 look-alike rifles legally, with no legal reason to register them.

    The Harrott decision forced the DOJ to outlaw “assault rifles” by specific manufacture and model. If that specific model is not on the list….it is legal to own. The centerfire rifles must still conform with the configuration guidelines of PC 12276.1, which is easy to do, to remain legal (rimfire firearms are NOT considered in the law)

    I own many LEGAL off list AR15’s. A couple look “eeeevilllll” indeed, but operate no different than my Dad’s old .22 rifle we shot varmints with on the ranch.

    No…none are registered, and won’t be.

    By: BeenThereDoneThat on 9/10/09
    It is stated that she got the gun from a former husband. If you are supposed to register as per Calif. law, wouldn’t a cop, let alone the chief of police know.

    So maybe I should go get a gun keep it unregistered and if ever caught use the Lisa Soloman defence. I didn’t know.

    By: Unbelievable on 9/10/09
    SSG_David_Medzyk, you seem knowledgeable about this all. What does the law say about an unregistered gun? Can I leave one of those on the seats out in the open?

    By: SSG_David_Medzyk on 9/10/09
    BTDT…Yes, there is a TEN day waiting period in California…down from 15 (thank you President Reagan). Not for a background check though, as that is done in moments with the NICS (National Instant Check System). The wait is an archaic and inneffective holdover from the 1968 Gun Control Act (that did nothing for crime as proposed).

    Although originally used for the slow and physically tedious police background checks, gun control advocates contend that it is a “cooling off period” for crazy mad husbands that wish to kill their wives, and will rush to a gun store, buy a gun, then shoot her. Problem is…that so rarely happened as to not even figure in crime stats. Stabbing and choking were WAY up there though, but there was no cry to register kitchen knives or fingers.

    Those states with no waiting periods…which is most of them…report no increase in “crimes of passion” and gun purchases. Most states dropped their waiting periods when the NICS went on-line.

    AA101…most LEO’s have no real working knowledge of our state firearms laws, which are the most abundant, tedious, and ignorant in the USA. They must rely on the big obvious ones that are taught at Academy, or gained in daily/weekly/monthly updates. Essentially, if a Cop THINKS it’s illegal, he/she will start proceedings against you until they are shown otherwise.

    By: SSG_David_Medzyk on 9/10/09
    ApathyWKY and BTDT, The main problem with firearms registrations throughout history, has been confiscation….usually violent. Registered weapon confiscation has already happened here in California, due to a foul-up by the DOJ (The SKS rifle was not added to the so-called “assault weapon” list at first, then was, but after the grandfather period had ended. Those that had registered them by law….were visited by Sheriff and state agencies, and their rifles taken).

    I don’t want anyone to know what I have if I can help it. My weapons are fully secured, and watched over by a rather well trained four legged security system. I also have no problem defending my family and what is mine from those who want to simply take it.

    Also: transporting firearms in vehicles…Contrary to the above story, legally transporting firearms in vehicles is not that restricted;

    “Concealable” firearms (generally handguns) can be transported two ways: UNLOADED and openly on the seat/dash/floor or in a holster… BUT, it cannot in any degree be covered by any other item, nor beneath the seat or dash componants itself. Or, it must be in a locked case (there is no legal parameter of what constitutes a case) with a key or combo padlock, or built in locking assembly. While in the locked case, there is no location rule. You can have it anywhere in the vehicle.

    Ammunition can be transported by any means…EXCEPT inside the firearm itself. Yes, loaded magazines or loose rounds can be in the same locked case with the firearm, as long as NO ammunition is in position to be fired (people v. Clark 1996).

    Longguns have almost no transport laws. You can duct tape them to the hood if you like.

    BIG EXCEPTION!!!! ALL firearms must be in a locked case when within 1000′ of a K-12 school. State law does not cover longguns, but Federal law does. One main legal caveat is; you must have reasonable knowledge of the K-12 location (strange town, and get pulled over by an elementary school with your rifle on the back seat? You will likely be arrested, but the court must ask if you were aware of the school. If answered honestly, then all charges must be dropped).

    Finally, there is no law preventing anyone (unless a felon or mental case) from carrying an UNLOADED handgun in the open…holstered of course… in public, with ammunition at the ready. Can’t do so in a government building or state/national parks, or in the sterile area (after the TSA check) of an airport. Nor can you within that 1000′ area of a K-12 school (but you CAN carry it in the locked case anywhere by that school), but for almost anywhere else it is fully legal. I carry unloaded frequently, with at least 30 rounds immediately available on my belt(magazines, being integral to the firearm, must also be carried in the open. “Speed loaders” for revolvers can be pocketed). It takes me but a few seconds to make my .45 ready for action should my safety, or anothers life, be in immediate jeopardy.

    Before you say it…no, there has been no recorded or reported events of a bad guy getting hold of a UOC (Unloaded Open Carry) weappon and turning it on the good guy. Quite the contrary, there are many instances of the regular Joe who is legally carrying in the open, ending the criminal conduct of a bad guy.

    Before you say it…no, this isn’t the “wild west”, it’s much more dangerous today.

    Anyway, before this gets too long. Transport in a vehicle is legal in many ways, NOT just what the writer said. And, it is legal to carry unloaded in the open without any permits…other than the 2nd Amendment :)

    By: Lewy on 9/10/09
    BS , Organizational Management , 1999 — 2003 University of La Verne

    By: ApathyWillKillYou on 9/10/09
    I think there are many reasons to register a handgun and I think that a Chief of Poilce of any agency should be held to that minimum standard.

    How many other unregistered guns does Lisa Solomon own? How many unregistered guns do other members of the Paso Robles police have? An unannounced inspection from the City Manmager’s office is called for as well as ALL police officers signing statements as to what guns they own, registered or not.

    In other words, the citizens of Paso and the City Council need to get James App, the Paso City MANAGER to start MANAGING Lisa Solomon!

    By: hotdog on 9/10/09
    MikeKnecht makes good points. I have gone to every agency and elected officials that might have any jurisdiction in our county over the last 18 months about this grand theft by the various white collar criminals-same response. “Not my job”. Shameful. First the crooks rip us off then those charged with protecting us shirk their responsibilities to step in proactively.
    For sure at the next DA election let’s work to defeat Shea if he should seek the office again. And both our state reps have shown no interest in these massive crimes, let’s make sure they are retired.

    By: Scarlet on 9/10/09
    BTDT: If it’s valuable, it should also have been listed as an asset in her BK filing, right?

    I thought Karen said yesterday that Solomon left a recorded voice message saying she purchased the gun from an agency or department. But Solomon herself said she got it from an ex-husband (1 of 3, I think). I wonder if Karen could pod-cast that message.

    By: BeenThereDoneThat on 9/10/09
    Also if gun is valuable like it sounds like it might be, wouldn’t you want to register it in case stolen or lost?? Again unless other motive.

    By: MikeKnecht on 9/10/09
    I had a piece of equipment parked on a road in Paso Robles. Within hours I received a call from a Paso Robles policeman, telling me I was violating an ordinance. That is fine. If there is an ordinance against something then that ordinance should be enforced. What is interesting is I had written a letter to Chief Solomon in August of 2008 stating that Karen Guth had $156,000.00 of my money and would not return it or account for what she had done with it. That used to be called grand theft.
    Chief Solomon wrote back and said essentially that it wasn’t her job to look into it. Imagine that. The biggest crime ever committed in the Tri County area and it isn’t Chief Solomon’s job to investigate. The Estate Financial Company Offices can be seen from the Paso Robles Police Department’s property and it isn’t Chief Solomon’s job to look into the most massive robbery and fraud ever perpetrated on the citizens of San Luis Obispo County, a crime that was committed literally right under her nose.
    The Paso Robles City coffers, from which Chief Solomon draws her department’s funding and her own salary have been irreparably damaged by the incredible Ponzi Scheme that was run within view of Chief Solomon’s office and it wasn’t her job to investigate.
    Violate some minor ordinance and the Paso Robles Police will be on you like white on rice. Ruin countless lives, steal hundreds of millions of dollars, perpetrate a crime so vast it causes such a loss of tax revenue that county service budgets are slashed and people are laid off from their job and you are safe from the Paso Robles Police Department because it isn’t their job to investigate. If anyone is interested I have a copy of both letters.

    By: BeenThereDoneThat on 9/10/09
    O.k. I’m confused. I thought that we had a seven day waiting period for years, so they could do a background check on hand gun purchases??

    The Ca. state site on handguns says that all handguns, new or transfered have to go through a dealer??

    Of course that is left up to the individual but I would think most would do for their own protection, to show no longer ownership in case gun is used in crime later. So why would you not register if no alterior motive??

    By: AA101 on 9/10/09
    SSG – Thanks for the information. If the unregistered gun has become sensationalized it is perhaps because Chief Solomon didn’t inform us all that she didn’t have to register it and site the codes. Did you hear her on KVEC 920 yesterday? She has been saying that she didn’t have to register it because she obtained it prior to 1991 and stumbling all over herself in the process. Why doesn’t she know these facts/laws that you have expounded?

    By: SSG_David_Medzyk on 9/10/09
    Just to clarify: There is no mandatory, nor automatic, registration of firearms in California. That the Chief is reported to have an unregistered handgun….means nothing.

    Prior to 2004, you could give or sell a firearm to any private party, just like you would give or sell a bike or radio. Currently, non-related people must do a “Person To Person” transfer at a Federal Firearms Licensed (FFL) dealer, which entails state and federal forms to be filled out and a fee of no more than $35 paid.

    Family members (immediate) do what is called an “Inter-familial” transfer, which entails a form to be sent to the CA-DOJ, and a $19 fee paid. No FFL dealer required.

    Purchasing a firearm requires a Dealer Record Of Sale form to be signed (which includes a thumbprint), a computerized background check (NICS), and a dealers form 4473 to be signed. The 4473 contains personal information, and information of the firearm purchased. However, longguns (shotguns, rifles) are only recorded as being sold to you, there is no serial number recorded. Handgun sales information does include the serial number. These form 4473 are retained by the gun dealer for 20 years, or sent to the BATFE when the dealer no longer wishes to keep his license.

    Neither form is kept as, nor sent to any law enforcement agency as a registration.

    You can voluntarily register all your firearms with local or county law agencies, which can aid in their return to you if stolen and recovered.

    I’m not defending Chief Solomon. It seems there are inconsistencies in the various reports concerning the theft and recovery timeline. But the article sensationalises the “unregistered” aspect of the firearm in question, when that particular fact means nothing at all.

    By: Michelle on 9/9/09
    I’m reading the latest on this site while watching “locked up abroad”. All I can think of after the Congalton Show and reading this is that, someone needs to lock up a broad.

    By: MartinW on 9/9/09
    Lisa Solomon owns an unregistered, untraceable gun because she wants to own an unregistered, untraceable gun. She keeps it handy because it could come in handy. Its that simple. It’s not that she doesn’t know it’s that she wants it that way. She is the Chief of Police so she does it her way. Who was going to stop her? Its that simple.

    By: Laura on 9/9/09
    Your so right Nancy, I love what they just did with the DUI CHP in the state car. Sent him to Fresno. It’s sort of like what the Catholic Church did with all the corrupted priests.
    How about Keller, different job, same guy serving the public. Yes we need help, we need ourselves, the citizens to take back our county.

    By: Nancy on 9/9/09
    Oh My God, The Police Chief is a bonafide “nut job”. It sounds like she talked to the city manager and they worked out a new cover up to claim that it is a personnel issue. Isn’t that what all the high ups use to refuse to address problems and hide wrong doer’s ? We need more than a review board for police. They are all using that ace in the hole to let criminals continue to service the public in all sectors and venues.

    By: Cindy on 9/9/09
    Well, I am now convinced that Lisa Solomon is a complete anti social personality. To say that the felon was appropriately handled and that there was no malfeasance is outrageous. Can anyone believe that since no one claimed ownership or knowledge of the concealed, loaded weapon that there was simply no one to arrest! So if a car gets stopped and illegal weapons or drugs are found, denial will automatically exonerate everyone! Don’t yah just have to love that one? If you don’t love that one how about this one. At first she doesn’t remember where she even got the gun! Then she says it was from her x husband. Then she admits that they weren’t divorced prior to 1991 but somehow she still didn’t have to follow the law and register the gun. This woman should never be allowed to carry a weapon, not ever. She scares me. It’s unacceptable that she continues to pile lies and egregious excuses on top of each other. Oh what a tangled web we weave………………

    By: ApathyWillKillYou on 9/9/09
    Also on Congalton, Chief Solomon stated that she received the unregistered handgun AFTER 1991; which after that year the weapon would be required to be registered.
    Shouldn’t the Chief of Police know that?!

    And as far as the car being unlocked I would presume it was some sort of police vehicle that would most likely contain other police items that most definitely should have been locked up!

    Also it seems pretty obvious that the person who ended up with the gun was in the process of performing a burglary. What if things went wrong, like the Atascadero PD caught them in the act and the final result was a dead cop!

    By: hotdog on 9/9/09
    The chief said, on Congalton today, that ‘somehow’ her car became unlocked! Jeez… Her whole whining series of excuses and veiled threats against CCN (‘I won’t take this lying down!’) really make Nixon’s lies look credible. His Watergate break in coverup, stonewalling and then whining was a sad reminder some of our ‘public servants’ fall far short of the sort of honesty and competency we should be demanding. Now this, its too much. I’m sorry for the good cops with have, for the stain will taint all of them, however unfairly. Only by purging our public agencies of bad apples will we be able to move forward.

    Saveslocounty, thanks for the summary of police malfeasance and idiotic escapades we have to put up with.

    By: ApathyWillKillYou on 9/9/09
    Just heard Lisa Solomon respond to this story on the KVEC Dave Congalton show.

    She stated, in her own words, that the Chief of Police of Paso Robles has to answer to her superior for any negligence in performing her duties.

    In this case it is the CITY MANAGER of Paso Robles, JAMES APP. He is Ms Solomon’s boss and he is the one who should hold her responsible, just like any other employee, for her actions. Mr. App can be contacted at:

    City Manager’s Office
    1000 Spring Street
    Paso Robles, CA 93446
    (805) 237-3888
    (805) 237-4032 FAX
    Information Line
    227-PASO (7276)
    Hours
    Mon-Fri 8am to 5pm
    CityManager@prcity.com

    By: Saveslocounty on 9/9/09
    Please discontinue the use of “Top Cop” when refering to this embarassing example of a public servant. Perhaps she should be known as “Table Top Cop” for her drunken dance routine. Let’s replace her handgun with a stripper pole…no, on second thought, she might hurt someone by slipping off the pole.

    I feel sorry for the poor cop on the street having to face the community who knows what an incompetent, unethical, trendy political appointee their boss really is.

    Has anyone kept score, Sheriff does wiretapping, chief loses gun and rips off merchants, sheriff’s DARE officer convicted of child porn, ATPD covers up porn boy drining under influence of prescription meds, SLO Police Captain cheats to get promoted, Sheriff union rep boinks opposition, county jail guard convicted of beating prisoner and another for sexual assault on inmate.

    This is so unbelievable that Desperate Housewives can’t even use these stories.

    Get it together and clean up our law enforcement agencies to restore the level of protection we deserve. God help us all.

    By: mcdonald on 9/9/09
    This is absolutely hilarious. This would be bad enough if it happened to a private citizen but to a police chief! Imagine the audacity of some felon to come along and steal her gun! This is right out of a Chief Wiggum clip.
    The part that bothers me is rather than take the jokes about her faux pas she conspired to release a convicted felon back onto the streets. I just stopped laughing.

    By: karen on 9/9/09
    I will be on the Dave Congalton Show today at 4 p.m. to discuss this issue. Turn your radio to 920AM or listen live at 920kvec.com.

    By: BIG_SMILES on 9/9/09
    LOL, I can see it now..
    Chesson- Lisa are you missing a sig sauer ?
    Lisa – Huh?
    Chesson- Yeah I pulled over a convicted felon and the punk has a sig sauer with your name on the holster!
    Lisa- What the f*ck? Hold on, hold on, son of a Bitch, it was in my car and its gone, the little punk ripped my gun off. I’ll kill em.
    Chesson – He broke into your car and stole it?
    Lisa – Yeah, well actually it was unlocked, the little f*ck. I can’t believe this, do you know what the press is going to do to me, hell Chess I could lose my job.
    Chesson- Yeah Ok well lets figure this out.

    By: Cindy on 9/9/09
    InTheKnow, Your post is informative and puts things back into perspective. That answers the question of how the PO knew it was Solomon’s gun without an official report on the wire. That’s probably how she found out it was stolen! That accounts for why she said she reported it on Monday morning and claimed that was when she first noticed it was missing. She was covering up for Chesson who had covered up for her by not reporting it himself or arresting the guy.
    I kind of feel sorry for Chesson in the sense that he was trying to protect a friend but he did it to the detriment of the community and they both conspired. Oh what a tangled web we weave………….
    I agree ITK, Why not just arrest the guy for a stolen gun and hope to keep the owners name out of lime light? This was a bad guy they let go!

    By: AA101 on 9/9/09
    Well, Well, Well, what has CCN uncovered now!
    This isn’t cool people, the courts and the DA got involved in a cover up here. This goes beyond the Paso Robles Police Chief and the Atascadero PD when judges and public defenders start having conflicts of interest. All to cover up the fact that a police chief left her loaded unregistered gun in her unlocked car(?),maybe.
    It’s time for an oversight committee, I have to wonder how much has gone on that we didn’t find out about, my guess is plenty.
    I’m in, bring on the public outcry. Like one poster here said, “The press is reporting but who is following up”?

    By: InTheKnow on 9/9/09
    The story in law enforcement circles is, there was either an identifying tag on the gun’s holster or one of Solomon’s cards. Chesson knew it was her gun. An old friend of Solomon, he called her at home and filled her in.

    That’s when things got complicated. Why was it so important to keep this hidden? Why not just arrest Short that night and get it over with? Why lie under oath, the arrest warrant, in order to keep this hidden?

    By: Cindy on 9/9/09
    Use it is right. If Paperboy starts it we will come. I will come and bring others. I do hope we hear from Mike Brennler and his thoughts on this. Does anyone know if our (the citizens) over site committee can also respond to inquires regarding CHP who are stationed and working in our county?

    cheeseburger – You had me splitting my side with your last post.

    BCP – Your a troll around here and always have been.

    By: Black_Copter_Pilot on 9/9/09
    Well, this is quite a scoop and the dog pile is most interesting and entertaining.

    The real story though, for all you wearers of the tin hat, is the connection between the story above and today’s breaking news that Atascadero’s Denny’s closed. It closed yesterday at noon, 2 hrs and 22 minutes before this story broke.

    It was closed by MARTY SOLOMON.

    There has to be a connection here where both stories have principles with the same last name! I mean, what are the Odds? Surely there is some connection here.
    Mary Solomon stated that slow sales forced the closure, but an undisclosed tin hat wearer that I spoke to said the two stories are related.

    Is the Paso Denny’s next?

    Maybe Karen will sniff it out.

    By: Use_it_or_Lose_it on 9/9/09
    Paperboy – you’ve introduced a new level here. Get it started and we will come. Please create a yahoo email address and post it on your “bio” so others can join in with you. Other counties have law enforcement oversight committees that are filled with the interested public. Our county used to be a leader – we had the 1st city in the nation to ban smoking at eateries. Now we have the most corrupt county in the nation. Why? Sleepy little SLO. Paperboy gets up early, let’s wake up with him.

    By: hotdog on 9/9/09
    Calamity Jane leading the Keystone Kops, in our dreaded North County.

    By: mccdave on 9/9/09
    Clearly the FBI ballistics lab needs to test-fire this weapon (and the BB gun), and compare the results to every unsolved crime involving the same caliber in North America. FBI computers can perform such a search in a mere decades. There are probably matching caps in asses all over the west coast. I understand Oswald “stole” his gun from an unlocked 1963 Cadillac convertible with the top down on the LBJ ranch before it was involved in that little kerfuffle.

    My guess is Solomon secretly deputized Jay Short to carry out some kind of undercover op — smuggling custom T-shirts across the Mexican border, perhaps — and then Short turned rogue. Short may even be undercover Atascadero PD — probably the only way the APD would ever “find” him.

    By: hotdog on 9/9/09
    Rany, good point. I hope Mike Brenler will respond to your comment. He and many others would like to see a reasonable oversight situation set up to reduce police malfeasance and increase public confidence in our ‘folks in blue’.
    In fact an independent group is working on this as we write these comments. Perhaps those citizens who are actively concerned will comment here with contact info.
    One big problem we seen to have is lack of accountability. This site and other venues have reported some very strange dealings with certain police personnel and we all wonder if anything is ever done about it. The press reports, but who is following up?

    By: Nancy on 9/8/09
    cheeseburger, You just shook the daylights out of me. I know something is wrong beyond the fact that the gun was stolen but I never thought of a throw down gun. I know something is very wrong with this gun and this chief and the cop that found it. They should have done ballistics test on it to see if it matched anything that some law enforcement might be looking for. It did cross my mind that she might want an unregistered gun in case she ever wanted to shot someone illegally. I just know that something doesn’t make sense and I do also believe that she knew who had the gun. They found it too fast and knew it was hers and that’s why they let the guy go so she did notify law enforcement (unofficially). Why are the facts in the court records all screwed up? Whats going on? I’m worried.

    By: cheseburger on 9/8/09
    Wake up and smell the coffee ladies and gentlemen have you ever heard of a throw down? Why would a police chief have an unregistered gun? Why do some police carry throw downs, you guys use your imaginations or play back a couple of old B cop movies about bad cops. In law enforcement the term throw down, can mean you throw down an unregistered gun, after a shooting gone horribly wrong, and say it belonged to the poor bast-rd, you just accidentally shot! Now I’m not saying that this is a fact, in this case, she’s probably just really dumb and dropped it outside her car, the kid (felon), would get at least 6 years in any county for possession of a concealed loaded weapon. 45 Days plea bargain, COVER UP! The Felon probably found it lying next to her car on the pavement, that’s the only way he get a plea bargain, it is inconceivable that a seasoned office a police chief by fact could leave a loaded,(unregistered) firearm in an unlocked vehicle. Can I say this, one two many table dances at best. Thanks Sorry if I offended anyone! P.S. A Sig Saurer pistol is very expensive, maybe she didn’t want to list it in the bankruptcy. Also I doubt it was a pre 1991 model, police chief, loaded old gun, no way! Let’s have the make and model number, was the gun even 20 years old? Truth or Dare? Sincerely.

    By: Rany on 9/8/09
    Considering how the gun thief was handled (from the get go) it appears that Lisa had to know who had the gun and she had a few good friends working 24/7 to find the guy. Either that or every cop in the county was hip to the problem and ready to cover up for her. I think the first scenario is most likely what happened. It’s pretty funny that Short went on to steal a squad car, he’s very comfortable around cops, who is this guy? Whats with the cop that let him go and why?

    By: Rany on 9/8/09
    Good One McDave.

    Paperboy is right, we need a “police oversight committee and give it some teeth to actually investigate and eventually discipline crooked cops.” We also recently had an incident with the SLOPD and the family that had their business and home ransacked and broken into. How did they manage to obtain the warrant? Who lied? Some of us should get together to see about getting this initiative in place for a county vote at next elections. Its time.
    How to we get this process rolling, should we all go to the BOS? If so lets organize.

    By: Stefan on 9/8/09
    I’ll guess we will probably not get any twitter updates on this? http://twitter.com/PRPDChief
    She should really block the one follower that seems a porn bot (not her fault, it could happen to anyone).

    By: mccdave on 9/8/09
    “The pair listed 50 to 60 creditors that included Kohl’s, Mervyns, Gottschalk’s, and Levitz Furniture”

    Whew, talk about livin’ large. And three of those four retailers have gone out of business within the last year. It’s like Solomon and Chitty are the kiss of death for retail chains, though you have to wonder how Kohl’s acquired immunity to their venom. For chrissake, don’t let them shop at Wal-Mart, or the entire commercial edifice of the north county would collapse.

    By: Cindy on 9/8/09
    There is a lot more to all this than what is being told. IMO this just doesn’t add up even with all the inconsistencies. I just don’t buy that the gun was stolen from her car without her knowledge and then an Atascadero PO just so happened to check on a vehicle parked at a gas station because the driver was wearing black, found the gun, returned it to Lisa and didn’t charge the perp with anything at the time. Come on, this doesn’t add up. I’m not talking about the cover up I’m talking about how she lost the gun to begin with. How is it that the police found the perp so fast and knew the gun was hers and let the perp walk? How is this possible? I believe she had to have known who had the gun or at least a description of the vehicle. Either that or every single LEO in the county was aware of the missing gun and its description even though there was no official report! Even with that they would have got very lucky to find the thief so fast without additional information. He wasn’t charged with anything, they just found the guy let him go, confiscated the gun and charged his friend for an illegal knife! There is more being covered up here. Its worth a talk with the perps to see if anyone gets all the truth. Whatever it is, its about more than anyone is admitting IMO. What did Lisa really know, how did this really happen?

    By: DashRiprock on 9/8/09
    what a joke, she got the job due to reverse discrimination, plain and simple.

    By: paperboy on 9/8/09
    It was suggested several years ago that the county needed a citizen police oversight board to police the police, naturally, the sheriff and the police chiefs all didn’t think we needed one.
    The grand jury clearly doesn’t have the cajones to do this. They may be able to criticize government but their reports carry little authority and are too easily dismissed.
    It would have to be a countywide voter initiative, carefully crafted to form a new police oversight committee and give it some teeth to actually investigate and eventually discipline crooked cops.
    Frankly, right now, every police department has its own internal affairs division to investigate these sorts of things, but I’ve never heard of anyone who filed a complaint actually having that complaint upheld and an officer disciplined. Sort of like having the foxes guard the henhouse.
    And what cop’s going to rat out a police chief, even one from another department?

    By: Jordan on 9/8/09
    Lisa got very lucky. She had obviously reported the gun to local law enforcement “friends” in surrounding cities prior to officially reporting it stolen. This accounts for how the officer recognized the gun description and who the owner of the “unregistered gun” was. It also accounts for why he didn’t arrest the thief. That was a stroke of luck for APD and Lisa, talk about odds. If this gun had landed on the streets of LA being unregistered it would not have had such a short life of crime. I’m surprised Lisa didn’t register the weapon regardless of when she acquired it. I believe the majority of the general public would be less careless carrying a weapon.

    By: Laura on 9/8/09
    and one more thing.. NO more guns for her either.

    By: Michelle on 9/8/09
    This is getting sickening. I’m tired of the cover ups. This criminal was allowed to walk so that no one had to know he stole the Chief’s loaded gun from her unlocked car. Then the courts assists covering up the offense after he is fingered by a fellow criminal.

    This is worse than when APD covered up for Gussen’s when he wiped out 4 cars and even when the CHP covered up for Whited driving DUI in a state vehicle. This bullshit of cops and law covering up for each other has to stop. We all need a full scale investigation to STOP these gangs in the blue uniforms. This time they managed to drag the court system into it including the DA!! Cripes, where does it end?

    By: Laura on 9/8/09
    WOW- The PRPC is Appointed! Time for an election.
    I have to wonder what are the odds of leaving a loaded gun in your car and having it stolen from in front of your home the first time you do it? It’s sort of like what are the odds you get caught DUI the first time.
    Was the gun concealed and something that she just always left under the seat or was it in clear view? If it was under the seat it’s likely that she did this often and her luck ran out. If it was in clear view then she was obviously out partying, singing, dancing and we know she likes to have a few based on the (on top of) bar dancing reports. They say Lisa is great at bringing in grant monies, then give her a desk job out of the public eye.

    By: mccdave on 9/8/09
    Good stuff, and this seems to be typical of local law enforcement.

    If I could find it, I’d post the appropriate “Simpsons” clip of Chief Wiggum cleaning his ear using his gun.

    By: ApathyWillKillYou on 9/8/09
    FYI
    The Paso Robles Police Chief is APPOINTED…not ELECTED.

    Dancing on tables in a bar, loosing a loaded unregistered hand gun, intimidating reporters that ask questions, running a side business before and after it went bankrupt and I bet there’s more that we will never know!

    Maybe it’s time for her to be UNAPPOINTED!

    By: BeenThereDoneThat on 9/8/09
    Oops.

    By: FRACTUREDFAIRIETALES on 9/8/09
    She does like to dance on tables and sing!! But, her whole story is one big cluster f*() as far as I am concerned. How many different ways do you get to tell the story? Is it until people finally tire of hearing it and just start to believe anything? Sad that are elected officials are so “above the law” that this type of behavior is acceptable anymore. We really have gone down the tubes as a society if this is who we have keeping our streets “safe”. God help us all.

    By: Cindy on 9/8/09
    bluemule, The gun was unregistered so if it had ended up in the hands of a neighborhood child I doubt she would have ever claimed it.

    I really don’t get this, parents are required to use gun locks and yet the police chief leaves a loaded gun in an unlocked car!! I agree bluemule, I wonder if she was drunk?

    By: bluemule on 9/8/09
    One has to wonder about Solomon’s state of mind at the time she parked the car, leaving it unlocked with a loaded handgun easily accessible inside. Was she drunk, or just deeply distracted by the challenge of holding a full-time job while also running a business on the side? In a way she’s lucky that the weapon ended up in the experienced hands of criminal rather than those of a neighborhood kid. Things could have turned out a lot worse.
    Call me old-fashioned, but if I lived in Paso I’d want my Chief of Police to give her undivided attention toward serving and protecting the citizens she’s paid to serve and protect. Running a side business is time-consuming stuff.
    Hopefully the people of Paso will let their elected officials know that it’s high time to show this ostensibly distracted and undedicated gal the door.

    By: Scarlet on 9/8/09
    Am I to understand that these felons were let back into my community to cover for the chief’s blunder? Are you kidding me?! And why did the judge AND public defender have to step aside? Something smells bad.

    By: paperboy on 9/8/09
    If a regular citizen told this many stories, he or she would be in trouble. But Solomon IS the Paso Chief, so nothing will come of this.
    Cops are good at covering their and their comrades’ butts.

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