Deportation halt may swamp state jobs

June 19, 2012

The Obama administration’s announcement Friday easing deportation of children and young adult immigrants will soon flood the already-stressed job market in California with new employment seekers. (Contra Costa Times))

As many as 350,000 of those affected by the directive are in California; an additional million nationwide will benefit from the deportation hiatus and subsequent relaxation of work permit applications.

Overall impact on California’s economy and employment remains a mystery to researchers, because nothing like this has ever happened before. But there is evidence that competition for scarce jobs will jeopardize the chances of native-born Americans without college degrees, according to Steven Camarota, research director of the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, D.C., which seeks to reduce immigration.

“The benefit to the illegal immigrant himself might be significant,” Camarota said. “But that raises other concerns. Unemployment is so bad at the bottom end of the labor market.”

And well-paying jobs – out of reach for illegal workers because of background checks — are now accessible to a larger pool of people.

Statewide unemployment was 10.8 percent in May.

Questions about the new policy? Call hot lines for U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services at 800-375-5283 or U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement at 888-351-4024 during business hours or send an email to EROPublicAdvocate@ice.dhs.gov.


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29 Comments

  1. standup says:

    This is a ploy to get Hispanic votes by our corrupt pos president.

    (10) 20 Total Votes - 15 up - 5 down
    • R.Hodin says:

      It’s also a tack taken by Repub fav Marco Rubio, but Obama beat him to it. So yes, the Republicans are just as corrupt. What’s new?

      (2) 6 Total Votes - 4 up - 2 down
    • Slowerfaster says:

      You do know that Willard Romney is an “anchor baby”, as his father, George Romney was born in Mexico ?

      Maybe we should deport Willard ? He hasn’t done much for America except to take from it, extracting money and moving it and jobs offshore.

      (-1) 5 Total Votes - 2 up - 3 down
    • Slowerfaster says:

      “This is a ploy to get Hispanic votes by our corrupt pos president.”

      Actually, I think it’s a smart move to impel the limbic brained Republican morons to make idiotic and tempestuous statements on blogs and comment boards.

      (-1) 5 Total Votes - 2 up - 3 down
  2. mrcyberdoc says:

    Well just make sure they are old enough to vote and have filled out a voter registration card using their fake ID’s. Can you imagine working as a border guard, risking your life, and then having your boss pull something like this? November just won’t come soon enough!

    (7) 17 Total Votes - 12 up - 5 down
  3. R.Hodin says:

    We pay billions educating the young people, just to send them back to Mexico? Why not use their talents here, where they are already living, so that they can pay back to society, and help lead us productively into this century?

    This has little to do with farm labor. This generation wants to own the farms, engineer the water systems, manage the finances, etc. In short, they are their parents’ sons and daughters and will go farther because of the hard-working dedication of their parents. I wish them success.

    Thank you Marco Rubio. Thank you Obama. Sometimes, politics does the right thing for the wrong reason.

    (-9) 19 Total Votes - 5 up - 14 down
    • The Gimlet Eye says:

      This is all academic. With the coming NAU, there won’t be any more borders, immigration laws, or “citizenship” for us to worry about.

      One big happy family living in a dictatorship.

      (-1) 3 Total Votes - 1 up - 2 down
  4. racket says:

    Obviously, this election-time announcement was made to garner the hispanic vote so crucial to Obama’s re-election.

    My assessment is that the *legal* hispanics (ie, the pool of hispanics that could actually vote for Obama) are no more enthusiastic about the illegal labor force than anyone else who is put out of work by the interlopers. I predict (and hope) Obama’s electioneering stunt backfires massively.

    (25) 41 Total Votes - 33 up - 8 down
    • Slowerfaster says:

      “I predict (and hope) Obama’s electioneering stunt backfires massively”

      Wow..what conviction !

      I predict that your hopes will be dashed.

      As far as what you or anyone may wish to surmise about the ‘enthusiasm’, or lack of it for President Obama; they DO know and recognize the haters and code racists…and are wisely understanding that ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’.

      Romney is stuck in the past and his own clueless rhetoric. I would be amazed if Willard gets more than 25% of hispanics. He deserves alot less..

      (-10) 20 Total Votes - 5 up - 15 down
      • shelworth says:

        Couldn’t be more right, anyone the slightest bit right of center is only there because he/she is racist! The only reason anyone could possibly disagree with President Obama is because they hate African Americans! yadda yadda yadda…

        (2) 12 Total Votes - 7 up - 5 down
        • Slowerfaster says:

          Believe what you want; but the unprecedented amout of insults, invective, and implied threats of violence towards our first President of color is more than convincing.
          From the ‘birther’ nonsense that refuses to die ( because there are so few Republicans that aren’t chickens…that won’t call out and shame the crazies among them ), to the tenthers, to the para-military types strutting around in their camo’s and assault weapons like a band of Brownshirts.

          From that “bloviating ignoramus” Donald Trump ( +1 George Will ! ), to Chickenhawk Ted Nugent, to a plethora of rude know-nothings.

          These are acts and methods of HATE, not merely dislike. It is HATE with prejudice.

          Yeah, I call that racism.

          (-3) 9 Total Votes - 3 up - 6 down
  5. Slowerfaster says:

    The contentions in the article and comments are typically the opposite of what may now transpire.
    Those younger persons affected by the presidential order wil now be able to avail themselves of further educational opportunities, and the promise of a higher income profession eventually.
    This portends a REDUCTION in lower wage job seekers, NOT MORE. When these young people are denied educational opportunities, they have little choice but to enter the job market at the bottom, join the armed services, or move.

    I seriously doubt that there are social scientists that write vapid artcles for the Contra Costa Times.

    (-23) 45 Total Votes - 11 up - 34 down
  6. rogerfreberg says:

    Oh Mary, it is all so much simpler than all that … He wants to have a million extra voters come November.

    The ag economic theory of yours… doesn’t hold any … uh … water.

    (18) 40 Total Votes - 29 up - 11 down
    • MaryMalone says:

      Roger, it is your theory about voters that is without logic.

      Obama is a Democrat. If you want to look for voters fraud in California, look to the Republicans.

      I’m not saying Democrats are perfect, by any stretch of the imagination. But they just don’t need to cheat in California.

      (-23) 41 Total Votes - 9 up - 32 down
      • BeenThereDoneThat says:

        Voter fraud by Republicans in CA? Where was this Mary? I must have missed it?

        Also if you are impling voter fraud by Rep. wouldn’t that mean they should have a greater majority in both CA. and the Capital in Washington?

        I would SURE LOVE to hear where you come up with these WILD accusations.

        (16) 32 Total Votes - 24 up - 8 down
        • prbizownr says:

          You know the saying, if it walks like a duck, ….., it must be a duck. The Conservative Citizens Group turns 900 potentially left leaning (college) voter registrations late. Of course the right is going to disavow any association.

          (0) 20 Total Votes - 10 up - 10 down
        • MaryMalone says:

          Well, when the GOP hires companies whose principles have criminal backgrounds, voting fraud is bound to happen.

          ———–

          http://articles.latimes.com/print/2008/oct/18/local/me-fraud18

          Voters say they were duped

          LATIMES

          A firm hired by the GOP is accused of using petitions to trick people into switching party registration.
          October 18, 2008|Evan Halper and Michael Rothfeld | Times Staff Writers

          SACRAMENTO — Dozens of newly minted Republican voters say they were duped into joining the party by a GOP contractor with a trail of fraud complaints stretching across the country.
          Voters contacted by The Times said they were tricked into switching parties while signing what they believed were petitions for tougher penalties against child molesters. Some said they were told that they had to become Republicans to sign the petition, contrary to California initiative law. Others had no idea their registration was being changed.
          “I am not a Republican,” insisted Karen Ashcraft, 47, a pet-clinic manager and former Democrat from Ventura who said she was duped by a signature gatherer into joining the GOP. “I certainly . . . won’t sign anything in front of a grocery store ever again.”
          It is a bait-and-switch scheme familiar to election experts. The firm hired by the California Republican Party — a small company called Young Political Majors, or YPM, which operates in several states — has been accused of using the tactic across the country.
          Election officials and lawmakers have launched investigations into the activities of YPM workers in Florida and Massachusetts. In Arizona, the firm was recently a defendant in a civil rights lawsuit. Prosecutors in Los Angeles and Ventura counties say they are investigating complaints about the company.
          The firm, which a Republican Party spokesman said is paid $7 to $12 for each registration it secures, has denied any wrongdoing and says it has never been charged with a crime.
          The 70,000 voters YPM has registered for the Republican Party this year will help combat public perception that it is struggling amid Democratic gains nationally, give a boost to fundraising efforts and bolster member support for party leaders, political strategists from both parties say….

          ————-

          http://tinyurl.com/6wp3cbl

          The Public Eye: Capital-area voter fraud suspects have criminal histories

          By Brad Branan
          bbranan@sacbee.com
          Published: Sunday, May. 13, 2012 – 12:00 am | Page 1B

          The owner and an employee of a company accused of fraudulent voter registration drives in Sacramento County have been convicted of crimes of deception in the past.

          The owner of Momentum Political Services, Monica Harris, has an extensive criminal history, including a prison sentence for stealing from a family she befriended and buying a van with funds stolen from a youth agency, court records show. Two of her victims called Harris a “professional con artist.”

          Harris’ employee, Remy Heng, recently pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court in Sacramento to his role in a multimillion-dollar mortgage fraud scheme in Northern California.

          Jill LaVine, Sacramento County’s registrar of voters, has turned over evidence of what she called registration fraud to the California Secretary of State’s Office. She said that at least one-fourth of the 31,000 registration cards submitted by Harris and her circulators since September have been rejected for inaccuracies.
          Momentum Political Services was hired by the Republican Party of Sacramento County to conduct voter registration drives. LaVine said her office found numerous examples of people of having their political party affiliation switched to Republican against their wishes…..

          ——————–

          http://tinyurl.com/yhvvxn6

          S.B. County Probes Voter Signup Firm

          March 7, 2006
          LATIMES

          Thousands of allegedly flawed GOP registration forms submitted by a Riverside company are being checked. ID’s are said to be lacking.

          San Bernardino County prosecutors are investigating a signature collection firm that submitted thousands of flawed voter registration forms on behalf of the county’s Republican Party, authorities said.
          The district attorney’s public integrity unit launched an investigation after the registrar of voters received complaints from people who said they had been improperly registered as Republicans during a recent GOP registration drive.
          County voting officials said they found problems with many of the nearly 3,000 registration forms submitted by the company, including 1,800 that lacked voters’ driver’s license numbers or other official forms of identification, which were required by a state law this year.
          The district attorney’s office is also investigating whether the same political firm, John Burkett Petition Management of Riverside, was responsible for the large number of signatures declared invalid in a recent petition drive in Rialto, said Deputy Dist. Atty. Frank Vanella….

          —————

          (-8) 24 Total Votes - 8 up - 16 down
          • BeenThereDoneThat says:

            O.k. fair enough. Now four years later where are the charges? I haven’t noticed anything in court or any kind of verdict. Accusations are fine but innocent till proven guilty right?

            (14) 20 Total Votes - 17 up - 3 down
      • mrcyberdoc says:

        Mary, if you want to get political, I suggest you read “In the President’s Secret Service” by Ronald Kessler. No, past republican presidents were not perfect, but compared to what retired secret service agents say about the demoncrats in office,Bush & Regan were stand-up guys. The white house reads like an “R” rated novel. Unfortunately it isn’t a novel.

        (2) 8 Total Votes - 5 up - 3 down
    • Slowerfaster says:

      That’s pretty definitive claim there, Wah-wah ! Where are those votes going to come from ?

      ( We’ll now see how long it takes our local rodent mascot to come out of his hidey-hole . )

      (-12) 16 Total Votes - 2 up - 14 down
      • Slowerfaster says:

        HA HA…Little Lord WAH-WAH musta wet his diaper again!

        (-2) 2 Total Votes - 0 up - 2 down
  7. MaryMalone says:

    One thing I neglected to mention–which is the point of the whole danged post. Sheesh.

    The reason Obama is doing this is to try to align California GOP ag support behind him for the November election.

    One of the reasons GHWBush was not reelected was because, right before the election, he increased the price large California ag interests had to pay for water from the federal water projects in California. The Central Valley ag interests, especially, are VERY GOP and –before the change in the water prices–were hard-line behind GHW Bush.

    However, GHWBush overestimated their loyalty, increased the water prices to appeal to the environmentalists, and the California GOP supporters stopped supporting him.

    This is a part of presidential politics history that is not often discussed, but certainly the political parties are aware of it and are not about to tick off the GOP ag interests in California a second time.

    (-12) 20 Total Votes - 4 up - 16 down
    • BeenThereDoneThat says:

      Mary, I don’t think what GW did would have mattered in the end. California is a pretty blue state and it was an uphill for him to get with or without this.

      (21) 21 Total Votes - 21 up - 0 down
      • MaryMalone says:

        GHWBush was polling big in California —before he signed the California Water Project Improvement Act, which had a disastrous financial impact on large farming interests, especially in the eastern Central Valley.

        The ag interests were TICKED. They very noisily abandoned Bush, and it dragged down his campaign.

        Perot’s campaign, the recession, Bush flipping on his “no new taxes” promise, and his signing the CWPIA-1992…they all played a role in Bush’s loss.

        Lord, that was one helluva election! My favorite election ever.

        (-11) 17 Total Votes - 3 up - 14 down
  8. MaryMalone says:

    I think Obama is being dishonest about the reasons for this policy change because, if he was truthful, he would lose in the November election.

    Illegal immigration into the U.S. has greatly decreased, such that we actually have more illegal immigrants leaving on their own than we have entering our country. This is not something the political parties want to broadcast right before election because both political parties use the immigration issue as campaign issues.

    There are many large farm-worker and construction contractors who provide workers for ag and construction companies. Many of the workers are not legal immigrants. However, by contracting with a labor provider, the businesses are largely shielded from being culpable for using illegal laborers.

    With the negative in-flow of illegal workers, it has become harder for labor contractors to keep a steady stream of workers. I don’t know if the contractors have had to increase the pay, but clearly if they have not yet done it, they will have to increase pay if they want to be able to contract out the same amount of workers.

    California supplies a majority of America’s produce. If ag interests pay more for labor, we will all pay for it at the grocery market. Hungry people are far less likely to reelect the current president.

    California’s economy is very dependent on its ag production. It would not take too much of a decrease to bring us to our knees.

    Obama’s reelection is very dependent on California, including the support of large ag interests.

    The change in policy is to ensure California’s ag interests continue to be able to supply America with produce at a reasonable price. They simply cannot do that, the way things are set up now, without a very cheap supply of labor.

    (-14) 24 Total Votes - 5 up - 19 down
  9. pasoparent5 says:

    I’m unclear on this, maybe someone can explain it.
    If a person is an illegal alien, how does Obama’s plan (which I don’t agree with, BTW) help him get a job? Legally, doesn’t a person still need an ID and/or Social Security# to get hired? How does an employer handle tax witholding for an illegal alien? Is the next step issuing S S #s for all illegals? Just curious…

    (17) 23 Total Votes - 20 up - 3 down
    • MaryMalone says:

      Exactly. The only thing this change in policy does is decrease somewhat the number of illegal aliens who are leaving the U.S.

      There is already a negative flow of illegal aliens out of the U.S. By stopping the U.S. government’s deportation of the ones they catch, it will allow those who actually want to stay here to stay.

      This claim of the article is simply not true: “And well-paying jobs – out of reach for illegal workers because of background checks — are now accessible to a larger pool of people.”

      For that to be true, the U.S. would have to suspend employment checks on residence status.

      This is to help keep a stable supply of cheap farm and construction labor available.

      (0) 20 Total Votes - 10 up - 10 down

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