Templeton accident victims identified

August 8, 2012

Officials identified the two San Luis Obispo County residents who died in a two-car collision in Templeton on Saturday.

Shirline Miller, 62, of Paso Robles was driving westbound on Highway 46 near Vineyard Drive at a high rate of speed when she crossed over the solid double and crashed into James Fenstermaker, 50, of Nipomo.

Miller died at the scene and Fenstermaker died an hour and a half later at Sierra Vista Regional Medical Center.


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To the individuals in this thread that “think” the Christian God didn’t kill these two individuals in this terrible and very sad auto accident.

What Shirleen Miller and James Fenstermaker will do at any particular time is already predetermined by the Christian’s God’s omniscient status. Using a metaphorical pictorial reference, suppose the past, present, and especially the future, as a long colorful “film” which God has on all of the past, present, and future creation because of His omniscience.

He has already seen this film in all of the 3 aforementioned stages, even before you were born (Jerimiah 1:4), but we as humble human beings, or characters in this film, have only seen the past, and are aware of the present. We have not seen the future that our God has in store for us.

Therefore, our actions at any point in our lives seem to be of a free will nature, but everything, right down to buying that new car last month, was already “predestined” by our Hebrew-Christian God’s omniscient status. Get it? Sure you do.

Therefore, the Hebrew-Christian God already knew that Shirleen Miller was going to cross that divider and not only kill herself, but also the exact person of James Fenstermaker as well! To deny this fact is to say the Christian God is not omniscient! Does any Christian want to deny the omniscient status of God in this respect and therefore deny the following Hebrew-Christian God’s omniscient passages?

1 John 3:20; Jerimiah 1:4; Psalm 139:1-4; Psalm 33:13-15. No? I didn’t think you knew more than the bible and it’s God. Good for you!

A simple religious syllogism, the Hebrew-Christian God knew beforehand that these two individuals were going to be killed in this terrible auto accident. (Omniscience) He also didn’t do anything to prevent this accident. (Omnipotence) Therefore, God allowed this predetermined accident to happen. (Omnipresence)

Reducing it to it’s irreducible primary, God is held responsible in killing Shirleen Miller and James Fenstermaker.

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?

Then he is not omnipotent.

Is he able, but not willing?

Then he is malevolent.

Is he both able and willing?

Then whence cometh evil?

Is he neither able nor willing?

Then why call him God?”

To quote Shakespeare via Puck , “Oh Lord, What Fools these mortals be ! “

If these deceased individuals were to read these comments . . . Shame


If they’re in heaven, they are in fact aware of them! If not, well, they’re burning in the sulfur lakes of hell as per the Christian duality of heaven and hell. :(

Two people are now dead.

God in His omniscience must have meant it to be.

Both must have been guilty of something.

Who here among us mere mortals can question the wisdom of God ?

“Time and unforeseen occurance befall us all”, says the Bible.

God is not to blame for the actions of free-willed humans.

He allowed Satan to test Job’s faith as the first chapter indicates.

He will not allow us to suffer beyond what we can handle.

I hope the families and friends of these two find the peace of mind that only the scriptures can brIng.


I think not. There is one victim and one reckless driver who was anything but a victim unless there is such a thing as being a “victim” to yourself. James was a close friend of my good friend. James had a wife who is beside herself with grief as are many other people. There was no excuse for this accident to ever happen, no excuse at all. Apart from the surviving families and loved ones, there is ONE VICTIM and one careless 2nd degree deceased murderer, in my opinion.


My dear, do you know all of the exact details of why Shirleen Miller crossed over the divider? Has this been reported through autopsy or other means? Is it possible that she had some medical malady that caused her actions? Isn’t it all speculation at this point? Or, do you have further details that you could share to back up your position?

If you have the time from your womanly and biblical duties, is it possible for you to answer my post below of our God testing his creation in the manner that He did in this terrible and sorryful accident?

“…God is testing you to find out if you love the Lord…” (Deuteronomy 13:1-3)

We’re always told in how the Christian God is always testing His creation. This terrible auto-accident is just one more example of how He is testing the remaining family members to see if they still love Him. Makes sense, doesn’t it?

This is a prime example of a testing situation by the Hebrew-Christian God. It is for the strengthening and purification of the faith of God’s people. In this case, God has tested the surviving family members in grief, so they might learn and grow through the test and love the Christian God even more.

The irony of these godly tests is the fact that our God is omniscient (1 John 3:20). Therefore, He already knows the outcome of the test, in whether you still love Him, or love Him more because of the test.

So, does any Christian with a modicum of reason have the answer in why our God had to kill these two people at the expense and great loss of their grieving family members when He already knew the test’s outcome? Anyone?

Brother Ted…You have nailed it! You have summarised in this narrative wht it took Job 42 Chapters to illucidate !

Sometimes, I think that all of the trials and tribulations and sufferings of Job were because God was PO’d at him being such a windbag !

God didn’t kill them. Ted.

Blessings to all who have been touched by this tragedy.

God killed all of them Danika. God kills everyone in His divine justice ! PRAISE !

“The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.

An evil soul producing holy witness

Is like a villain with a smiling cheek,

A goodly apple rotten at the heart:

O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!”

CA Native,

Ahhh, but it takes a TRUE Christian like myself to quote God’s true intent in it’s historical context!

Thank you.

maybe because he is a sadistic , love me or else, pitiful, lonely , megalomaniac.