Second California county votes to pursue secession

September 28, 2013

californiaCalifornia’s northeastern most county Modoc County joined neighboring Sikiyou County Tuesday in its pursuit of secession from the state of California and creation of the sate of Jefferson. [LA Times]

The Modoc County Board of Supervisors voted 4-0, with one member absent, in favor of a declaration to the California Legislature supporting secession. Siskiyou County declared its support for secession earlier this month.

“The Modoc County Board of Supervisors recognizes the lack of representation for rural and frontier counties in the California Legislature,” the declaration stated. “The board is aware of an increasing tendency by the state of California to exercise legislative and fiscal malfeasance in the form of illegal fire tax, property rights violations and assaults upon Second Amendment rights, as well as disregard for other inalienable rights of the citizens of Modoc County.”

Advocates of the state of Jefferson, named after Thomas Jefferson, hope other Northern California and Southern Oregon counties will also secede from their respective states and join the movement to create a new one.

Spokesman for the Jefferson Declaration Committee Mark Baird told the Redding Record-Searchlight that the group is seeking commitments from a dozen counties prior to asking California legislators to approve the secession plan. The seceding counties must then gain approval from Congress.

“This is going to have to be something the people bring forward,” said Modoc board chairman Geri Byre. “It’s gong to have to be from the bottom up, not from the top down.”


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It matters not what those northern county mountain shiners and sister shaggers want, they’re not getting any part of this beautiful state to turn into an old, white, pink faced, fat fingered, fatass, restrictive rightwing nuthouse. If that’s what they want they are perfectly free to move to Texas, North Carolina, Virginia, Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee, etc.

Not gonna happen here. It’s time they woke up and smelled their cousin and realized that the rest of the state voted out of office virtually every single Republican, and then adjust their sleep apnea masks and go back to sleep. The debate about your guns in pre-schools, your Jesus in science books, and your hatred of everybody non-white and non-hetero has been completed and you lost. You persuaded nobody. Even your beloved lunatic Mitt Romney who had nothing but bad things to say about this great state now lives here, in Fagtopia. Freakin hypocrite.

The fact is California is the epitome of states rights, individual freedom, and free markets, and conservatives choke on it. What right wing mouth breathers hate most about this state is exactly what makes us great – Immigration reform, gay marriage, higher taxes on the rich, universal healthcare, gun control, medical marijuana, abortion rights, minimum wage, consumer and environmental protections, f*ck the NRA, innovation, tolerance, acceptance, science, logic and democracy.

The dying breed of fat, white, ignorant butt chuggers whose lives revolve around guns, religion and hate will not be given one square inch of this great state to f*ck up, and very soon they will be dead and gone and nobody will even remember their names.

UncleCharlie your failure to follow the guidelines has been noted.

This is not an anything goes comment zone…..


I love your rant. You accuse the right of hatred and then go on an extreme hate rant. Made me laugh. But back to serious. Your third paragraph is delirious. Rights? Oh yea right to be regulated to death. Free markets? Yea that is why many a major corporation has left or those left (i.e. Apple) are pretty much off shore and those taxes you brag about the rich? Apple is a rich company and pays little taxes in this country. Oh and that includes Ca.

Yep in your hatred you also misinformed. I’m not surprised.

Oh and I thought UncleFester would be a better name. You know like festering hatred.

More proof that true hate comes from the so-called “coexist” crowd.

Word. More like “Noexist” cause some dont agree.

So true! The ones screaming for “tolerance” and the least-tolerant of all. Try telling them that you’re a hard-working, tax-paying, straight-married, family-values Christian and watch that smarmy smile turn into an ugly frown. Coexist, Dude!

Sorry folks. I meant to type: “The ones screaming for “tolerance” are the least-tolerant of all.”

I’m going to guess that you might be the fat white guy that used to hang around downtown with the Peace signs. The one that started wearing phony white-man dreadlocks to show how in touch he is with the world’s oppressed peoples. Once the Democrats started waging global war, spying on all of us, etc., nothing to say. Usually idiots like you betray yourselves in your rants. The coastal communities and the interior communities are in serious disagreement over substantive issues of public policy. Maybe the folks inland have a right to express their misgivings over the way things are going. I put on a uniform and went to Southwest Asia and other places to protect the right of citizens to petition their government for redress. I even stuck up for your right to be a stupid, ignorant jerk. It makes me sick to think that some of the fine Americans I helped offload off a Blackhawk (they were in body bags, you see) died for someone like you. I’m not registered with either political party and quite frankly both make me nauseous but there’s something especially disgusting about the shrill, self-righteous hypocritical hatred that oozes like pus from every pore of the average American “progressive” lefty. You are a waste of skin. Moderator: No cuss words, just straight talk from an American veteran. Please let my words go unedited to Uncle Charlie, the shite-bag. Thank you.

You are 100% right and have the credibility to back it up. Thanks for your service.

Why don’t you tell us what you really think about Republicans. You should seriously consider a visit to a therapist for your anger problems. Yes, its a good thing Ca has gun laws to keep raging assholes like you from gunning down anybody who dosent agree with you.

Dang it…where did I put the Ph# for that anger management institute…

Who cares….no big deal. It’s probably the most sparsely populated county in California who’s land is owned mostly by the Feds, and once housed a Japanese relocation camp at Tule Lake.

Nit wits. We’re filled with them.

First off, these mouth-breathers don’t want to secede Just from California…but from the United States.

I would be all for this, except they can’t pick their new name…especially not the insult to the author of the Declaration of Independence and founding father President Thomas Jefferson. I would suggest either Moronia or Stupidistan, but if they really do prefer to honor one of the historical actors, they could go with Arnold, Burr, or Davis …’heroes’ more to their liking.

Then, we in the US could go to war against them and boost the economy.

Wonder how many CCN libertarians will defect? They’ll probably have to get a green card or be un-documented.

We’re hoping to gerrymander the good parts of SLO county into the deal.

To make a virtual state.

secession is against the law

Too funny!

Your reference to Jefferson being the author of the Declaration of Independence and using his name as an insult. May I offer words from that document:

“That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

Seems to me that ‘Jefferson’ is a perfect name after all.


Cute. Cherry-picking.

I won’t recite the whole document, but here is what precedes what you conveniently clipped:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness – That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. ..”

And then following: “Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. …”

These NorCal rural rebels are just PO’ed that they have to be dragged ….kicking and screaming, into the 21st century. They want to go BACK, not forward, to some false utopia of illiterate hedonism.

Devolution in action

Theres a reason thousands are fleeing Ca and its not gas prices. We in the US could go to war against them? .. 80% of Americas population despises Ca, what it stands for and considers it the laughing stock of the USA. Yes, you could wage war, but remember who owns the guns and are knuckle draggin barbarians. And the survey says!!!!!!

Knuckle draggers will wipe your blood from the floors of with your dead and decaying asses ;)

Will they take their share of California’s debt? One forest fire away from insolvency. And. I’m sure they won’t want any “deviant” sex going on in those darkened bedrooms.


your caps key needs a tap


I doubt they will miss anything to do with California. For the most part, these folks just want to be left alone and not bothered with assaults on their rights and the constant barrage of garbage coming out of Sacramento. They don’t need Sacramento telling them what kind of gun they can and can’t hunt with and what they can and can’t do inside their home, etc. I hope they succeed, but that means California will just turn a darker shade of blue.

Most of the people I’ve met (friends or otherwise) feel that way, though. I have yet to meet anyone that thinks Sacramento is in touch, well-run, and has anyone but their own best interest at heart.

I mean, I’m sure there are some rabid, blind ideologues who live and breath politics; but for the actually useful and normal people, Sacto is generally frowned upon.

…yet we still send the same people there. Fun, no?

That is called ‘Liberty’.

It’s lost on a lot of people.


I agree with you racket. May we be reminded that freedom comes with a price, be it blood or money for example.

While I support the State of Jefferson effort, my follow-the-money mentality wonders whether they’ll miss any of the state programs underwritten by the wealthy urban counties they are eschewing.

My bet would be on: they get over it REAL fast if they do miss it.

It’s a lot easier to adapt and survive when one is not in an urban, government-dependent area.

It’s alot harder to adapt and survive in a civilization when one is a Randian misfit.

Is all that you provide to discussions , thinly veiled and not so veiled insults?

Tell the truth and run — George Seldes

Will they “miss the state programs underwritten by the wealthy urban counties they are eschewing”?

That would be NO… that’s why they are seceding- they don’t want to be controlled by the state. They don’t want the state’s benefits,taxes or oversight. By the people, for the people.