California murderer granted state-funded sex change

August 10, 2015

prison barsA convicted murderer serving a life sentence in the California prison system will receive a taxpayer-funded sex change, a legal settlement indicates. [LA Times]

California has agreed to settle a federal lawsuit by granting Shiloh Quine, formerly Rodney Quine, a sex reassignment operation. The settlement marks the first time a state has agreed to pay for an inmate’s sex change.

The procedure will cost $15,000 to $25,000, according to Quine’s lawyers. Following a ruling in a similar case earlier this year, a spokeswoman for the state’s prison medical system said sex reassignment surgery could cost as much as $100,000.

Quine turned 56 on Friday, the day the state settled her case. Quine has been incarcerated since 1980 when she was convicted of first-degree murder, kidnapping and robbery in Los Angeles County.

She has repeatedly attempted suicide since entering the prison system.

Prison officials initially turned down her surgery request. But, the state’s expert concluded in June that Quine required the operation.

Clinical psychologist Richard Carroll, who is the director of the Sexual Disorders and Couple Therapy Program at Northwestern University in Chicago, said the operation would alleviate severe pain and reduce Quine’s depression, anxiety and risk of suicide.

The state conceded that Quine suffers severe gender dysphoria that can only be treated by conforming her body to her psychological gender. The department of corrections issued a brief statement explaining the state’s position:

“Every medical doctor and mental health clinician who has reviewed this case, including two independent mental health experts, determined that surgery is medically necessary for Quine”

The state granted Quine the sex change on the same day that Governor Jerry Brown granted parole to an inmate who was awarded a taxpayer-funded sex reassignment operation by a federal judge. By receiving parole, Michelle Norsworthy, formerly Jeffrey Norsworthy, lost out on her state-funded sex change.

But, Norsworthy’s case likely made it possible for Quine to be granted a sex change in prison. In April, U.S. District Court Judge Jon Tigar ruled in San Francisco that the state was violating Northworthy’s constitutional rights by refusing to provide her care for a serious medical need.

State attorneys were scheduled to challenge the ruling at an upcoming appellate court hearing. Following Northworthy’s parole and the settlement of Quine’s case, it remains unclear whether sex reassignment surgery is actually a constitutional right.

Critics say, in Quine’s case, California’ is granting something to a prisoner that is not available to the law-abiding public. Also, the case increases the likelihood that other inmates will request sex changes.

Nearly 400 transgender inmates in California are already receiving hormonal treatment, according to prison medical data.

If Quine receives the sex change, she will move to a women’s prison.


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Ben Daho

think about it, when “She” gets out, the republican that hires her can pay $.70 cents on the dollar less. We all win!


kayaknut

Or she can work for the government and make 5x’s the salary equivalent to the private sector, get 8 weeks paid vacation, 4 weeks paid personal and sick days off, and a pension so deep in dept that not even her adopted great, great, great, great grandchildren will be able to pay off.


abigchocoholic

Critics say, in Quine’s case, California’ is granting something to a prisoner that is not available to the law-abiding public.

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Number One, how is a sex change operation not available to the public? Do the critics mean it is elective surgery rather than medically necessary under private insurance policies? Didn’t the doctors just prove that wrong by saying it is medically necessary? I’m sure if a private citizen had the money to take the issue up to the court of appeals, they would get the same result. The problem is that the State (yes, the State pays for the incarcerated’s representation too) has an unlimited amount of money so they can argue legal principles into the millions of dollars all at taxpayer expense and never bat an eye.


Number Two, if this is a 15k-30k operation, why would the state spend $500,0000 arguing it? How many people in prison really want gender change operations? The $500,000 the state just spent arguing about it could probably have paid for all desired prison sex change operations for the next decade. And turning a man into a woman is probably a good result from a lowering crime perspective. You have to think thing through and know when to battle and when to cave. This doesn’t seem like a battle to fight, if nothing else, for economic reasons.


achillesheal

Likely the state spent so much money arguing the case due to concerns that the floodgates could open for additional inmate surgeries at taxpayer expense.


A year from now we will be paying for breast augmentation, penis enlargements, etc….

Sound ludicris? So does the article above.


demiseofslo

He wants to take the Bruce Jenner challenge!!


805code4

Boy I wish someone would fight for OUR Rights like that. Maybe its time to do it our selves


Ted Slanders

Well, we can only assume, like the majority of other prisoners do, that Shiloh Quine quickly accepted Jesus upon entering the prison system for obvious reasons, unfortunately, it was all for naught.


For her anti-god wants, she is to be put to death here on earth, and her spirit fate upon her demise will be thrown into the burning sulfur lakes of Hell because our Hebrew God of the Christian faith does not like transgendered people, let alone gay ones as well!


“Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.


Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.


Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice.


They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know God’s righteous decree THAT THOSE WHO DO SUCH THINGS DESERVE DEATH, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them. (Romans 1: 24-32)


The other approximately 400 transgendered prisoners should also be told this godly outcome, and by doing so, they might change their mind of having this procedure done!


SanSimeonSam

Nice to know you are still around Ted and as irrelevant as ever.


moderator

did you not mean irreverent ? or mean ?


Ted Slanders

SanSimeonSam,


You just can’t help yourself in disparaging the inspired word of the bible, can you? To say that the FACTUAL passage above is irrelevant to this story, is to cast yourself into the sulfur lakes of Hell upon yout demise, along with the transgendered. Blaspheme!


“For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.” (Matthew 12:37)


Pelican1

As a convicted murderer, exactly WHAT constitutional rights is this guy(girl) entitled to. When he murdered his victim, I doubt he worried about that persons constitutional rights…like life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

This is an outrage.


achillesheal

Maybe after the sex change the inmate will be able to get released because the murderer no longer exists and the woman has never committed a crime.


Call it the Kaitlin Jenner defense (a preview of coming attractions).


abigchocoholic

As a convicted murderer, exactly WHAT constitutional rights is this guy(girl) entitled to.

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That is a good question. I was thinking about that and wondering if it even comes up or is allowed to be considered because then we would get into tiered rights. Murders would have the lowest tier, maybe along with violent rapists and child molesters. Bank robbers would be on a higher tier getting more rights. Simple drug dealers might be on the highest tier getting even more rights etc. etc. Gets kind of absurd and ends up being dependent on how you view the morality of the crime.


That is why I posted the economics argument. This issue could be argued for millions of dollars all the way up to the Supreme Court even after the Supreme Court could still be a gray area. The lawyers would love that. Or, we could look at the cost of the sex change operation and the overwhelmingly small number of people who want to change their sex and just make an economic decision.


And that’s the problem with our news these days. Our media goes to the farthest dark corners to bring us the most bizarre people on the planet in an effort to make it seem like this is really how the world regularly is, when the fact is this prisoner might only be one of a half dozen or so in all of California who are interested in a sex change operation.


achillesheal

Prisoners are protected by the Constitutional amendment barring cruel and unusual punishment, the right to due process and appeals and equal protection (no discrimination).


They have lost Constitutional rights such as the right to liberty.


As in so many cases today the Constitution is ignored or stretched so far that its definitions now mean whatever some judge says it means.


Jorge Estrada

Re-dick-u-lous !


dogeatdog

Only in America.


Mike

A fine use of tax dollars. The heck with schools and roads.


abigchocoholic

Mike, the sex change operation is 15k. The lawyers arguing the issue all the way up to the Supreme Court is about 5 million.


Make your call. Fight it on principle or save the money for schools and roads. You can’t have both.


givemeabreak

Mike….you forgot our veterans.