Who are the real illegals?

January 19, 2016
Jim Griffin

Jim Griffin


There’s been a massive amount of talk and blathering lately about so-called “illegal” immigrants, undocumented aliens, “anchor babies” and so on thanks to Donald Trump and the rest of the ultra right wing chorus of ignorant, hate filled harpies. What’s the truth? Who and what are really “illegal?”

The truth is that right here in California, as well as Nevada, Colorado, Utah, New Mexico, Arizona and Texas, the real “illegals” are anyone who is not of Mexican heritage — Anglos like myself and most of you.

How outrageous and ridiculous, right? Wrong. The truth is that in 1846 the United States Government, deep into its “manifest destiny” crusade (the idea that the United States had some kind of God given right to expand from the Atlantic to the Pacific – – no matter who else was already there), set up a phony confrontation with Mexican forces over a small strip of disputed land.

This was whipped up, under a careful and devious plan, to be (look like — in the press) an unprovoked attack on “peaceful” American forces. So an “illegal” war was declared on Mexico — the Mexican American War.

The United States “won” and forced at gunpoint a “treaty” with Mexico that ceded the above territories in 1847. All of a sudden people who had one minute been citizens of their own country, Mexico, became “aliens” without legal status in what were now new territories of the United States. Much repression, many expulsions and land seizures, and much forced “returning to Mexico” took place against the Mexican citizens in what had been Northern Mexico.

An Imperial land grab, a theft, pure and simple. And don’t even try to say it was “OK” because the United States did it and then complain when Russia or somebody else does it today.

Think of all the natural resources in those now western states. Think what an economic and cultural blow this all was to Mexico, how destabilizing.

Think of all the historic ramifications. Add to this the many manipulative and rigged “trade” set ups that subsidized American agriculture and ruined millions of Mexican small farmers (corn farmers especially), driving them into big Mexican cities looking for non-existent jobs, and you have an idea why so many Mexicans are desperate to come over the border to find work, mostly extremely hard manual labor paying little.

They are lured here by greedy ranchers, agribusinesses and factory/industry owners who brazenly break the law to do so but are almost never prosecuted, and certainly not beaten, threatened, and thrown into holding cages like the would be workers are when caught by U.S. border agents. Then too is the fact that the application process for legal work visas into the United States is amazingly slow, cumbersome — and very expensive for these extremely poor people.

Of course, after almost 169 years it would be a massive effort to undo the institutionalized injustice of stealing half of a neighbor country. But a settlement of some decent kind should and could be made between Mexico and the United States — if the political will was there.

In the meantime, at the very least, we must arrive at a just and non repressive system of expedited work visas, including legal residency with full legal rights and workers’ rights, along with various paths to U.S. citizenship and a system of pooled social security systems for both Americans living and working in Mexico and Mexicans living and working in the United States.

Most importantly, we must end the discrimination, racism, and dehumanizing stereotypes against Latinos and Latinas — especially the label “illegal.”

So the next time the racist, ultra nationalist, big lie artists start spewing their poison about “illegals”, think about the above history and about who and what are and were really “illegal.”

Do you have legal papers for being in what should still be Northern Mexico? I don’t, and neither do you. Sobering, no?

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@JIM GRIFFIN Nice argument. However, in order for you to convenience others, you must first be a true believer. You are not. If you were a true believer in what you preach, you would refuse to reside in the disputed territory! So move – or revise your argument to justify continuing to be a true Hypocrite Socialist!

The “this land is your land, this land is my land” argument is a straw man.

The issue has to do with entitlement, taxation, and laws.

We seem to have a huge segment of illegal aliens who come to the US, have children, and sign up for every taxpayer entitlement available. It was never the intent when these social service benefits were created- they were never meant to be a “lifestyle” for anyone, and now we not only have millions of native born US citizens on the doles, but we have millions coming from 3rd world countries waiting to start families until they come here to get all the free stuff.

Taxation- It is nearly impossible to tax an illegal unless they WANT to file. My experience is that they only file when they will expect earned income credit or a large return. Illegal aliens can not only claim their own children with social security numbers, but they can claim children in Mexico as dependents if they use the social security number 000-00-0000 and say they provide 1/2 of that child’s expenses. No proof is required!!

Laws. There are immigration laws. When an illegal breaks the immigration law, it usually follows that more broken laws will follow. Driving without a license. Not having car insurance. Etc.

SOMEONE is going to end up living in a van down by the river when the money train runs out. That is what the issue is. IF this were a simple humanitarian issue, that would be one thing. This is becoming a “support my lifestyle choice to stay home and have 7 kids” thing. I don’t apologize if that sounds insensitive; I am merely stating the obvious.

“ignorant, hate filled harpies”???

Where did you find this guy? I’m a hater because I want whats best for the people of The United States of America and I want to know just whom is wondering across our borders. Mr. Griffin asked who are the real illegals? I would ask in reply who are the real haters?

At the time of this reply to your post, we have three (3) pages of comments. I would call this click-bait or throwing red meat to CCN’s audience (who are mostly not far left zealots).

I stopped reading when the name calling started…I think it was the second paragraph. Typical…..Left wing hater.


So, who gave this land to Mexico? Why was it O.K. for them to take it from the native peoples?

This is the worst ‘opinion’ piece I have ever seen on CCN. Wrong ‘facts’ and hate. msnbc would love Mr.Griffen.

Personal attacks and pointless juvenile name calling deleted.

Less about each other, stick to the facts of history.

You left one: this “Op Ed”

Ironically, in his first sentence, Mr. Griffin does nothing but pointless juvenile name calling.

Oh the hypocrisy!

It is a opinion and marked as such.

The deleted comments were one liner insults not “Oh the hypocrisy!” Adult comments we keep.

You are more then welcome to submit your own opinion, however you will need to use your real name just like Jim.