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UPDATE: Child sex groups horrific practices

August 19, 2008

A federal agent said today that a like-minded group which included San Luis Obispo County Sheriff’s Deputy Bryan Goossens and 51 others shared “very disturbing and graphic” images of children depicting bestiality and bondage.

Calling the evidence “horrific,” Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Assistant Special Agent in Charge Jorge Guzman told UncoveredSLO.com that 26 children, aged 2 to 17, have been removed from “dangerous environments” by appropriate family and child services officials.

FBI agents Monday arrested Goossens; postal employee Jeremy Neubauer of Nipomo; and Bryan Arnold of Grover Beach, for their alleged involvement in the group.

Utilizing Internet peer-to-peer software such as LimeWire, the suspects exchanged materials that Guzman found difficult to discuss: “There is no word to describe this,” he said. “Infants with umbilical cords attached being sexually abused or penetrated. You can’t imagine how horrific these are.”

Guzman also said the software may be making the pictures available to other children.

“A lot of kids use these programs to share files,” said Guzman. “It has not been uncommon [for investigators] to go to a residence and find that a child had inadvertently captured these images, then continued to go back.”

Federal officials said those arrested this week also included a teacher and an attorney.

“It is unfortunate that a lot of families have suffered from this,” Guzman added. “This is about protecting children.”

Child pornography convictions carry a maximum sentence of 10 years in federal prison, unless one has been previously convicted of a prior child exploitation crime.

The arrests are the result of a coordinated multi-agency task force of local and federal agencies led by ICE and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, “which received extensive assistance from a number of other agencies” including the United States Secret Service and local law enforcement.


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By: Anonymous on 8/20/08

The facts of this case are just abhorent. Maybe the worst I've ever heard in a case like this. infants? umbilical cords? WTF!? What have we become? And he is supposed to be one of the ppl we tell our kids to trust…..


I can not think of a punshment too harsh for this maggot…


God help us.

By: Anonymous on 8/20/08

'I told you so' says: "This is what you get when you take the 10 commandments and the Bible out of public schools!"


Riiight. No pious person has ever done anything like this, with the acquiescence of a church hierarchy. Beware people in uniform who've been granted special authority.

By: Anonymous on 8/20/08

To Wyatt Earp and others who always jump to the conclusion that Uslo has jumped to conclusions:Are you finally getting it that they are always right? Karen and Dan are human but seem to be always right on this site, so maybe next time a hot issue gets printed get off your high horse and give them the credibility they deserve.


I heard all about these allegations some weeks ago and I know they were aware too, but they refused to print anything without confirmation. They apparently do their job way better than the crooked lending brokers and police do.


So instead of assuming they are wrong, assume they are right, or sit tight and wait before shooting off on this blog until you KNOW something.


Messengers of bad news and criminality always bring out the nay sayers, that seems to be crummy part of humanity. Too bad, the truth is what matters, and is what sanitizes the filth, greed, sloth and stupidity of certain elements of our society. Thanks to the great spirit for the return of a free and aggressive press, here on the web.

By: Anonymous on 8/20/08

This is not about society being more tolerable. These crimes have always gone on. These guys brains are wired so twisted that they have no choice. Just like a major cocaine addict. But you can sometimes cure a drug addiction. Not these guys.

By: Anonymous on 8/20/08

There is no punishment no matter how harsh that will deter people from doing this. Their brain is just wired differently. Even more than a compulsion. But there are all kinds of people who come under the title of child molester. Some just look at pictures. Some for statutory rape with a 15-17 yr. old. And some for crimes that make what has been discussed look like a day at the park. I work at ASH and believe me there are people released everyday much worse than this. Most are at Coalinga though now. Just yesterday I transferred a guy who did much much worse than this. Most of these guys you can't tell from anyone else. Also most are convicted by evidence that is less than rock solid. That is fine with me but if you start executing these creeps then sooner or later you will kill an innocent one. Every once in a while facts come out and show that a perp was innocent. But a lot of these guys have multiple arrests. The system needs to be changed drastically. But for a child molester who has had sex with a young child they should never get out. And repeat offenders should be locked up in the back somewhere and just be forgotten. There is no treatment or cure for these creeps. Maybe 1 out of 20 will not repeat again. They all say that they won't and maybe 10-15 really believe that they won't. And maybe 1 really won't. But do you want to pick that person who gets out and bet that they will be the one who won't do it again. That is what happens every day. And the way it is now. If they do the right things, say the right things, they will get out.

As a Christian I am against the death penalty but have no problem with locking these guys up for ever. If this Goossen guy is real lucky then maybe this is a new thing for him and he has never got past the picture part. But don't be fooled. Doctors, lawyers, judges, cops, priests, teachers, psychologists, I have seen them all do this. And always their friends say that this is not like him he was the greatest guy in the world. Wrong.

By: Anonymous on 8/20/08

the death penalty would be too humane for the infant/cord/penetration perps.


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By: Anonymous on 8/20/08

Everyone always wonders how and why something like this can happen…..There is a very simple answer, our society has become too tolerable, and we make excuses instead of taking care of the problems……..Physics of the real world law number one; “You will get just as much crap as you will take.” Whether you are a parent dealing with a teenager, or a society dealing with public officials, the rule holds true…..We as a society have two choices, either choice is very harsh; we can keep making excuses for this behavior and not deal with it, which will just promote more of this behavior and devastate the lives of more and more victims, or we as a society can make the punishment so harsh that it simply will not happen. Either way someone’s life will be devastated or ended.


If these people are convicted we can hand out some “harsh and unusual punishment” to deter this type of behavior in the future, or we can bury our head in the sand and deal with the victims of the “harsh and unusual” punishment these monsters hand out.


In my opinion anyone that we entrust our children to, teachers, police, coaches, etc. should be held to a higher standard. If they don’t like it, they should find another line of work…….A couple life without the possibility of parole, or even the death sentence in some cases, and this problem will go away.


Someone is going to be treated very harshly, our only choice is who.

By: Anonymous on 8/20/08

Are you kidding? Only kidding yourself. The 10 commandments were violated in the "priestly" scenario you mentioned. In discussing the Biblical distribution of its standards of conduct, the standards are equally applied to all, regardless of position (whether priest, president or pauper). Personally, I'm in favor of the death penalty for serial child molesters. Child molestation is deeply hurtful, thus the appropriate allusion to putting a millstone around the neck and drowning such offenders, again, whether they be priest, president or pauper.

By: Anonymous on 8/20/08

The Majority of sex scandals have been committed by the " righteous righties" that you like so much. Don't you watch the news?

By: Anonymous on 8/20/08

Prayer and commandments have been so helpful in protecting the altar boys, no? Told You So post = non sequitur.

By: Anonymous on 8/20/08

What liberal policies would that be mighty righty? The ones pushed by Bush and his congress for 7 yrs? People like this belong to both parties and it has nothing to do with the 10 commandments or prayer in school. Grow up, you sound like one of those fools from the deep south. I wonder if all of the people who are making excuses for Goosen would do the same for a regular person?

By: Anonymous on 8/20/08

I knew what kind of trouble Goossens was in at the time he had the pile up in A-Town. I'm sure others knew too. I suspect that knowledge of his problems is partly what made the accident get leaked and the APD exposed with a big black eye for it. There are lots of leaks lately, or haven't you noticed?

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Who are you kidding. Goossens was placed on leave three weeks before the arrest and 10 days before the 5 car accident. The FBI did tell the Sheriffs what was up and that's why he was put on leave. What makes you think that the APD couldn't have known? What makes you think that Mr. G didn't personally call a friend like Detective W at the APD for help with his accident problem.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

For the last time, get over the A-Town PD link. As someone who actually has a relative in the FBI, I asked her in a case like this if they would ever notify any other agencies before the arrests, and she said absolutely not. They would never compromise the investigation. In addition, she is in a different area of the FBI and didn't know about this until I asked. They don't even talk to each other unless they are directly involved.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

To Sheriff Off Duty says:


Thank you for bringing my mispelled words to my attention but the fact remains we are where we are because of liberal policies amd shrinking consequences. So think before you vote.


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By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Bestiality, bondage, infants and video recorded rapes,all done to children. Whats left? God Help Us.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Don't be fooled by Wyatt Earp. His strategy is pretty obvious. He's trying to goad Dan and Karen into slipping up and providing some hint as to who their inside source is. They want to know who is talking to the press.


Shame on Atascadero PD for covering up for this sludge bucket.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

I really don't know anything about anything in terms of what went on here — who swapped with whom, etc. My only reason for coming on here was to emphasize that this isn't a creep we're talking about here and there HAS to be more to the story.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

It's just impossible for me to imagine any loving parent being able to stomach something like this. Something here is real out of sorts. I don't think he could be a very good father. Maybe he pretended to be for appearance sake.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Thank you to those of you who remember that he has four, innocent children. They must now live with this hanging over their heads every day. Please be mindful that others are reading your blogs and unbelievably some have started to say horrible things to his boys. He's an adult, he must face his consequences. They are innocent and also victims of this situation, albeit in a less sensational fashion. And to Julie Stowasser, thank you for your words. As someone who works in the field of protecting children, I couldn't have said it better.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

This is what you get when you take the 10 commandments and the Bible out of public schools! This is only the tip of the iceberg.

Pray for the children :(

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

How many pictures and video's did he have possession of? Was it 2 or 10 or 20? Was he trading

this stuff with other members of the group? How long was this going on? These questions all matter. I don't understand how he could look at this stuff and not react in a fashion to protect the children that were being molested. The guy in HB was actually making live rape videos. Where did your friend Goose fit into all of this? Whats his side?

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

I'm glad that was clarified. I was thinking the same thing as the 4 youth post was thinking.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

To 4 Atascadero Youths??


I think Rollo was saying the the 4 Goossen children are having to go through this embarrassment and somehow gain some semblence of understanding. I think we should all consider that there are 4 children who have become victims to the extent that their father is all over National TV. We might all consider the things that we say, there are all kinds of young victims to think about.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Please let me clarify a statement I made earlier about "four youths" in Atascadero. In that statement, I am referring to Goose's four children, not any additional victims. Sorry for the confusion… It's hard to write well in these little tiny windows.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Rollo did you say , yes you said that there are 4 Atascadero Youths.. Whats this about, Goose wasn't involved was he? How long does he say that he was engaging in this sort of behavior and why? His neighbors seem to have liked him and thought he was a good father.


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By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

This story is going to get a lot bigger and will attract a great deal of coverage over the next few days. The facts regarding the actual contents of the videos and pictures haven't yet been revealed. In fact this is the only place that has revealed anything and eluded to just how horrendous these molestations were and the facts get worse.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Marcia,

This isn't "child pornography" they are talking about, it's much darker.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

In a pair of posts in the previous thread, I identified myself as a friend of Goose's who, no matter what, will remember him as a devoted father of four beautiful children and pleasant man. He had a hard time going through a divorce a few years back, and in hindsight, he may not have come through it as well as we thought. He has battled bouts of depression and sleeplessness, and particularly in the past several months has occasionally left us shaking our heads by speaking nonsensically about, well, we still don't know what the hell he was talking about. And for us to recognize nonsensical in a guy we thought of affectionately as a goofball, it really was pretty pronounced. I know Goose has battled bouts of depression and sleeplessness; I don't know specifically how, but there might very well have been some prescription medication involved. Anyway, I know the crimes Goose is charged with are more horrific than I can comprehend, and I don't seek leniency toward anyone who committed them. At the same time, I will never accept that a sane Goose could have done this. I know there are going to be folks eager to get on here and beat on a cop when he's down, but that's a tactic for the shallow and the weak. Fact is, any time now, we're likely to start receiving posts from people who met Goose via traffic stops, loud parties in San Miguel or his work in local schools. I'd be surprised if any of them remembered Deputy Goossen as anything but the best-natured law enforcement officer they ever encountered. In case anybody's interested, Goose is back home and in good spirits. He's aware of the "tough spot" he's in, but he has been aware of what was coming and prepared accordingly. As much as anything, he seems relieved to get the booking process behind him and is eager to express his side of the story. May it all work out for the best. In the meantime, let's remember the victims of the crimes and the four Atascadero youths who don't understand this any better than we adults do.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

This story has hit the National Tribune from New York. Every story mentions the Sheriffs Deputy and an attorney as part of the people involved. What a bummer for SLO.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

I'm literally stunned. I don't know what to say. I remember when he was involved with the kids at school. The idea that he enjoyed child pornography makes my stomach upset. Its been upset every since I saw the news and then came here to see what Karen and Dan were reporting. Now I'm really sick, just sick. Its worst than I could have imagined.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Maybe I watch to much Law and Order, I admit, but getting him off the streets while they investigate seems like a plus. At least it would be on TV .

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Mr. Earp,

You can argue the claim all you want–you can't dispute these people have been arrested. YOu can't be arrested and charged with a crime unless there's substantial evidence. It's ok to apologize and say you may be wrong about this, but you've already dug yourself pretty deep–may want to stop now while your ahaead…

It's a sad world we live in today.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Is it possible the APD were cooperating with the FBI when they covered up that car crash with Goosen on Traffic Way? Maybe they were trying to tie things together and wanted him running and scared for a bit. I'm no LEO but maybe they have a way of flagging someone like that so he's not off the street before they have all the info. they want.


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By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

To

"Mighty Righty says:"


Try spell check, then again try reality check. It's your brothers/pals at the core of these issues.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Does anyone else remember that this Goosens person used to teach the DARE classes in our schools???

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

"….egan as a patrol court officer and a school resource officer. In 1991, he was promoted to deputy."

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

They just carried the story and said that Goossens lives in Atascadero. I thought he lived in Templeton. I wish people would keep A-town out of the bad news.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

"Infants with umbilical cords attached …"

As sick and twisted as it all is, maybe I can keep my supper down by assuming he was looking into stem cell research? Awww heck, be sure to tattoo him before he go's to the GreyBar motel….and put him on suicide watch.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

KCOY channel 12 just showed Gosseens picture on TV. They were interviewing his neighbors who said he seemed like a good dad and that their children played with his children. This is going to become a national story. It's outrageous and I think more facts will come out about the severity of the sex crimes. The story Karen wrote says that the ICE agent was having trouble talking about the details.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

What should we expect in a decaying sociaty which does not value honesty, integrity

, conseqequences or moral values. Welcome to our new Liberal thinking Sociaty. YOU ALL VOTE FOR OBAMA AND WE WILL BE SURE THAT THROUGHT LIBERAL POLICIES DEVIENT AND CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES WILL BECOME MORE THE NORM.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Are you challenging the story and on what grounds? I should think if she didn't have the interview with the ICE agent he would say it didn't happen. hummmm. You really do sound like a jealous fool.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Karen gave his name title and position. What other proof does the media provide? It appears you are another reporter. What do you want the guys phone number?

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

I think Sheriff Hedges better spend more effort cleaning up his own filthy house before he calls for another year-long surveillance operation to bust someone for providing medical marijuana.


It's true that whenever some law enforcement official or politician goes way overboard fanatically campaigning against some form of vice, it usually turns out the fanatic has close ties to some form of vice himself.


In any case, there are definitely some troubling signs coming from our local sheriff's department. I feel sympathy for the good cops that are being tainted by this.


Time for some serious change in the department.


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By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Again, I challenge Karen to produce any evidence this "interview" took place. Its a simple request, and would cause no harm to anyone…..and would boost her credibility.


As any reporter knows you have to be ready to back up your story if its challenged. Its part of journalism 101.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Dear Poor SLO County,


Sophisticated sex offenders, just as any kind of offender (domestic violence, etc) can sometimes be difficult to spot. We may just feel uncomfortable around these people, then talk ourselves out of our feelings because we don't have "rational evidence" for those feelings. Anna Salter, Ph.D is an expert in sex offenders and their treatment. Her recent book "Predators – pedophiles, rapists, and other sex offenders – who they are, how they operate, and how we can protect ourselves and our children" is a gem, and I do not hesitate to recommend it to all of my clients who have children or are interested in the subject. Keep in mind, that Robert Hare, Ph.D., a national expert in psychopathology in general, states that even he can be fooled.


We can educate ourselves, clear out our own traumas that might cause complications in our ability to perceive clearly, and trust our judgment and our feelings. Still, we may make mistakes and be fooled by a child molester or someone in authority who will eventually abuse that authority and cause harm.


It is wise to become educated, talk, break secrets around abuse, stay strong, and live our lives to the fullest, anyway.


Helen Keller said it best: Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing.


I hope this was helpful to those who wonder how predators can be our neighbors, co-workers, supervisors, and "protectors."


My condolences to the innocent victims and family members.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

"If Karen said it, then its true. She even told us who her source was."


If this is how you live your life, I hope you don't vote. Blindly believing anything is very short sighted.


"Hedges created a lot of sensationalism too. He wanted it and it back fired on him. The people attacked in Paso by the PR13 gang and got beat up and then the stupid cop didn't bother to contact the bus company for the video. The various LEO agencies deserve the coverage that has been generated."


Yeah maybe they should have, too bad this is Paso PDs jurisdiction and would have nothing to do with the sheriff's dept investigating.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Meanwhile Sheriff Hedges is spending so much law enforcement time and resource and money trying to bust medical marijuana purveyors.


This type of stuff is common in our twisted society. Going off fanatically on some anti-pot campaign is what a person does when he doesn't want to confront worse problems close to home. Very typical. Very sick.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Wyatt Earp


Its all over the radio in LA.

More than 50 involved, a cop an attorney a Hollywood producer etc. Maybe my radio is just talking too much.

Having kids, this issue reaaly hits home. If I were to discover morans like these they would be castrated first than the rest. Thank you.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Karen will be on Dave Congalton at 5:30 today. 920 AM Radio or stream it live at KVEC920.com


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By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

If Karen said it, then its true. She even told us who her source was.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Hedges created a lot of sensationalism too. He wanted it and it back fired on him. The people attacked in Paso by the PR13 gang and got beat up and then the stupid cop didn't bother to contact the bus company for the video. The various LEO agencies deserve the coverage that has been generated. But Gooseens it way out in left field. Unbelievable. I can't help but feel heart broken for those children.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Dont get me wrong, if any of this original story is true (and I bet there is a fairly strong chance of it) I hope these people burn.


However, Dan Blackburn is known for his sensation (but untrue) take on stories….and as this is the ONLY place claims such as, "Infants with umbilical cords attached being sexually abused or penetrated. You can’t imagine how horrific these are” are being made, as well as the fact Agent Guzman doesn't appear to be their information officer, I wont believe this spin on the story unless it can be backed up with more than the claim this interview took place.


Also, in the Chan 9 report there were no allegations of child rape that I read or heard when I watched the video clip.


This is much to horrible and sensitive a case to be throwing out rumors as gospel.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

The various LEA have been having a bad few weeks. What can uSLO do though. When you have stories like this you just have to write about it. The Goossen story came out in pieces and the Atascadero PD got dragged into it for obvious reasons (their own fault). The Chitty story was something that needed to be exposed . There was too much dissension in the ranks. I never thought it was going to get this wild though.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

I bet Chitty is breathing a sigh of relief and thinking that he doesn't really have it that bad after all! See Chris, theres always someone ten times no 100 times worse.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

This is all over the news right now. Even the DA is calling this horrendous. They haven't mentioned the bondage and bestiality yet or that 26 children have been rescued.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Tuesday, August 19, 2008 LOS ANGELES — Authorities say 55 men, including a sheriff's deputy and at least one attorney, have been charged with possessing child pornography following an eight-month investigation.

The U.S. attorney's office says the suspects used peer-to-peer networks to exchange graphic images and videos, then stored the files on their computers.

All are charged with possession of child pornography. Some have been charged with additional offenses, such as production of child pornography and committing crimes while registered sex offenders.

U.S. attorney's office spokesman Thom Mrozek says those facing charges include San Luis Obispo County sheriff's Deputy Bryan Jon Goossens and attorney Thomas Merdzinski of San Bernardino.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

I know there are sick people out there but why did it have to be a SLO deputy with 20 years on the force? Didn't anyone spot something wrong. What about his wife, didn't she spot something?

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

They said a San Luis Obispo deputy sheriff was arrested. I guess its true that Goossens is a part of this ring.


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By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

They are saying everything that is already reported here. They are adding that a SLO Sheriff has been arrested and than (some of) this group that he was involved with also made their own video's and then shared with each other over the internet. They are saying that young children were being raped and infants were sexually exploited. So far they have 55 people in the group from San Bernardino to SLO.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Yes Danny boy, seems like every time you write a story you never bother to actually check any facts or truths, especially when you write for the new times.


Example: The deputy burgeson story back around 2002 or so. Rememer that article that later had a retraction as your "facts" turned out to be purely rumors and your editor had to cover for you once someone actually did some investigation and turned on that rag to the facts of the case and the claim.


Keep up the good work champ.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

How about that. You can't find anything on the net about these details or anything about the officer in charge after 2006. Yet Karen has this story!! She is always right on the money and is a good enough reporter to beat everyone out on getting the facts first. Hang in there Doubting Thomas the rest of the press will follow eventually. And to think that she didn't even tell you everything!

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

to Wyatt Earp


Well if they got it wrong so did channle 9 down in LA they are reporting the exact same info. on the TV.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

The ICE agent's name is spelled "Guzman." The reporter who interviewed him erred.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

This whole thing sickens me. We have certainly gone down the toilet as a society when the only "entertainment" for these creeps is to abuse, use and destroy innocent lives. I am more than for the death penalty in these cases and am tired of pandering to the namby-pamby's who want rehabilitation. The best rehabilitation is public castration and hanging. Good bye and good riddance.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Doing a search for Assistant Special Agent in Charge Jorge Gozman netted he was only in charge of an operation in 2006 in the Philippines.


Furthermore there is nothing anywhere else on the web regarding this "update."


Lastly Undercoverslo.com cites no credible source or information.


You should be careful believing what you read as this "update" appears to be purely fictional made to shock you all.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

I agree 100% 10 years is only more money out of our pockets to feed and house these creeps! The death penalty is the best way to deal with these guys! This is the type of sickness that they will never cure because there is no 'want to' from the pervs! Gozman states 'infants', plural, more than one. I think it's time to go back to public hangings!


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By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

This has got to be one of the sickest things I've ever read about and it's been happening in my own backyard. I hope none of the children that were taken into protective custody were from our county. At least that would alleviate some of the apprehension I'm experiencing right now. I'm terrified to let my kids out of my site. I know their OK but I'm still scared. Its going to take some time to get over this.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Don't law enforcement officials receive periodic psychological evaluations? I'm surprised that something wasn't picked up on. It doesn't get much sicker than this, does it?

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Maybe if sheriff Hedges hadn't been chasing after harmless marijuana caregivers he would have noticed that there was a serious pervert slithering amongst his ranks.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

What is there to say? This feels like a bomb has hit.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Sounds Like we need to start using the Death Penalty more often because insidents like this are becoming more common and judging by what we have seen. These perverts will get a slap on the wrist for this because 51 convictions will "over crowd the prisions".

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Who's minding the store at the Sheriff's Department? You'd think his fellow deputies would have noticed the guy was off at least a little bit. When you're that depraved, it's really hard to hide it form everyone and trained officers should be able to spot a pervert in their midst.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

&^%$#!@#$%^&*


By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

These people are guilty of torture. Anyone who saw these pictures and hid them is as guilty as the production people.

And to think that some of these cohorts have children of their own. Sickening thought.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

Where in the world was the mother of that infant? I wonder if this was done in a hospital without her knowledge? The infant still had its umbilical cord attached! I am speechless, these atrocities are beyond words. What a terrible way for an infant to come into the world.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

How can someone do anything like that to a child. Who could enjoy looking at something like that? This is beyond perversion. This is sociopathic mental illness. These people are sexual predators and belong in ASH.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

I never thought it was going to be this seriuos.This is every parents worst night mare.

By: Anonymous on 8/19/08

This is the real thing. It's worse than I could have imagined. The part about the infant made me cry. I have children, what have we come too?

51 people were involved and 28 children had to be saved. What has society come to? God Help Us.


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