Capps’ seat may be endangered

February 19, 2012

Lois Capps

Congresswoman Lois Capps is one of four California Democrats whose congressional seat is considered competitive, according to the Cook Political Report. [Sacramento Bee]

Configuration of Capps’ 23rd Congressional District changed during the recent reapportionment, it having been a relatively safe district for Democrats. Other California minority party incumbents faced with a dogfight are Jim Costa, John Garamendi and Jerry McNerney. Republicans facing serious threats include Dan Lundgren, Gary Miller, Brian Bilbay, Jeff Dunham and Mary Bono.

Many of the 13 California districts are currently held by incumbents.

The Cook report is considered to be an objective analysis of national political trends, according to The Bee.


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WiseGuy

The conservatives here seem truly unaware and mixed up. The very same people who chant “The Best Government, Governs Least” are criticizing Lois Capps for not drafting enough new laws, not giving enough speeches and not debating enough.


shelworth

Wiseguy is right, everyone look in your pockets for all that money Lois has saved us!


moderator

this would be better as a reply to one of his comments rather than starting a thread about WG. ????


WiseGuy

Blaming Lois Capps for your personal financial woes won’t solve anything.


The Gimlet Eye

Lois Capps is part of the problem.


WiseGuy

No more than you, Gimlet. Try taking responsibility for yourself and not always playing the victim and finding scapegoats among the innocent. You can’t even offer a better alternative to replace Lois Capps. You, like so many others, would rather complain and criticize than offer a real solutions.


You want government to govern less, then you complain that Lois Capps isn’t doing enough governing. Make up your mind. Get real.


Spouting off isn’t really contributing anything worthwhile in this case.


The Gimlet Eye

I said nothing of the sort. Get it straight this time, genius, Lois Capps is a water carrier for the New World Order. That says it all.


WiseGuy

No Gimlet, making whacked out accusations while providing absolutely no foundation for your accusations does NOT say it all. In fact, the only thing it tells us are things about YOU. “Genius” indeed!


Like many, I think you’ve gone off the deepend. Get real, or go home.


I also think you, and a few others here, owe Lois Capps some huge apologies.


The Gimlet Eye

BS, as usual. Politics is a blood sport. Get used to it, pal. This forum is for the general public, not just people who agree with the likes of you. And from what I have seen, few agree with you. You sound like somebody in an echo chamber. Have fun!


WiseGuy

Wait a minute, Gimlet. In one of your postings below, posted previously the your comment above, you said you weren’t going to debate with me any more because you claimed nothing I write is worth debating.


Did you change your mind? Apparently you did. Any particular reason why?


You are welcome to debate here, and I apologize for any remarks that suggested otherwise. When I wrote “Get real, or go home”, I was truly hoping that you would get real INSTEAD of going home.


I also hope you will apologize to Lois Capps before you go home, if you go home, that is. If you stay and continue debating, then I hope you will be gracious enough to offer your apologies.


The Gimlet Eye
The Gimlet Eye

I wish Lois Capps understood Austrian Economics the way that Ron Paul does.


If she did, we would have some sanity and rationality in our politics. We might now have had an “economic meltdown.” We might have lower taxes. We might have a smaller, better federal government, we might not have lost so many of our freedoms, we might not be getting robbed by the FED, we might not have such a big MIC (Military-Industrial Complex), we might have a resolution to the “chem trail” poisons now raining down on us…….


We all have our wish lists in politics.


Most of all, though, I just wish Lois understood Austrian Economics and tried to act on those principles.


Typoqueen

And we would have govt. health care and more money spent on public schools if we followed the Austrians.


You must have just read the Cliff Notes on Austrian economics, lately you’ve really had a thing for it.


Ron Paul, the cute little grandpa that has racist tendencies who wants us to go back to the 1800s way of life. ‘Yippee, grab your guns cause there ain’t no laws, there’s gonna be a lynchin tonight!’ Thank goodness thinking people see past the cute little grandpa thing.


The Gimlet Eye

You manifest about as much understanding of Ron Paul’s thinking as the Man in the Moon.


You are out of touch with reality.


The Gimlet Eye

Congressman Ron Paul of Texas enjoys a national reputation as the premier advocate for liberty in politics today. Dr. Paul is the leading spokesman in Washington for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies based on commodity-backed currency. He is known among both his colleagues in Congress and his constituents for his consistent voting record in the House of Representatives: Dr. Paul never votes for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution. In the words of former Treasury Secretary William Simon, Dr. Paul is the “one exception to the Gang of 535″ on Capitol Hill.


Ron Paul was born and raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He graduated from Gettysburg College and the Duke University School of Medicine, before proudly serving as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force during the 1960s. He and his wife Carol moved to Texas in 1968, where he began his medical practice in Brazoria County. As a specialist in obstetrics/gynecology, Dr. Paul has delivered more than 4,000 babies! He and Carol, who reside in Lake Jackson, Texas, are the proud parents of five children and have eighteen grandchildren.


While serving in Congress during the late 1970s and early 1980s, Dr. Paul’s limited-government ideals were not popular in Washington. He served on the House Banking committee, where he was a strong advocate for sound monetary policy and an outspoken critic of the Federal Reserve’s inflationary measures. He also was a key member of the Gold Commission, advocating a return to a gold standard for our currency. He was an unwavering advocate of pro-life and pro-family values. Dr. Paul consistently voted to lower or abolish federal taxes, spending, and regulation, and used his House seat to actively promote the return of government to its proper constitutional levels. In 1984, he voluntarily relinquished his House seat and returned to his medical practice.


Dr. Paul returned to Congress in 1997 to represent the 14th Congressional district of Texas. He serves on the House Financial Services Committee and the Foreign Affairs Committee. On the Financial Services Committee, Rep. Paul serves as the chairman of the Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy and Technology. He continues to advocate a dramatic reduction in the size of the federal government and a return to constitutional principles.


Dr. Paul is the author of several books, including The Revolution: A Manifesto, End the Fed, Liberty Defined, Challenge to Liberty; The Case for Gold; and A Republic, If You Can Keep It. He has been a distinguished counselor to the Ludwig von Mises Institute, and is widely quoted by scholars and writers in the fields of monetary policy, banking, and political economy. He has received many awards and honors during his career in Congress, from organizations such as the National Taxpayers Union, Citizens Against Government Waste, the Council for a Competitive Economy, and countless others.


Dr. Paul’s consistent voting record prompted one Congressman to comment that “Ron Paul personifies the Founding Fathers’ ideal of the citizen-statesman. He makes it clear that his principles will never be compromised, and they never are.” Another Congresswoman added that “There are few people in public life who, through thick and thin, rain or shine, stick to their principles. Ron Paul is one of those few.”


Typoqueen

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ron-paul-signed-off-on-racist-newsletters-sources-say/2012/01/20/gIQAvblFVQ_story.html


Just a racist in a cute old grandpa costume, nothing more. You choose who you support and I’ll choose who I want. The morals I was brought up with would never allow me to support a racist, guess we’re morally different in that way.


The Gimlet Eye

BS.


You are delusional, and a prisoner of the propaganda clanging around in the little convolutions of your grey matter. If you ever had an original thought in this forum, I have yet to year it.


WiseGuy

Okay, Gimlet, please explain how you would recognize “an original thought”? If you can respond with a rational answer, I’ll give you “an original thought” and see if you can recognize it.


THEN you can apologize to myself and Lois Capps.


WiseGuy

Hey, I’ve got ANOTHER bright, original idea: Why don’t some of you folks who attack Lois Capps for no good reason, offer us up what you wish to have considered “an original thought” and I will proceed to explain where that thought came from before you offered it?


THEN you can apologize to Lois Capps. And then I’ll bow out from this thread gracefully and move on. Deal?


Typoqueen

Propaganda? Did he publish those papers or not? Are you trying to say that this was all made up, that he didn’t really publish these racist papers? Even he admits that much. So which part is propaganda? I believe that this is how you always react when you don’t have an counter point. You are a typical cyber pseudo intellect. You can quote things that you read but you don’t know what they mean. The problem with you and a few others is that you throw out claims that are just nonsense and when it comes time to defend them you have nothing. The facts are this, Paul is creepy racist and Lois Capps has been not just an effective but a very good congresswoman. You have nothing of substance to prove otherwise.


Sally

Ron Paul is proof that both parties have nuts, the only way he could be elected is if aliens landed and needed someone to relate to.

Of course it would be a tough choice between Paul and Kisinach


Typoqueen

The problem is that on your side they seem to all be on furlough from the funny farm. If I were a republican right now I’d pretty mad that this is all that my party has to offer. I know that there MUST be a few repubs that can do better than what you have now. It makes for good TV but this is a presidential race not One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.


zaphod

This is all Obama’s fault if he had only provided his birth certificate when ordered no one would believe he is Muslim.


zaphod

thank you sheriff Joe!


Typoqueen

None of that surprises me but I got a kick from the last comment on the last line:

“He dismissed the allegations as a politically-driven “witch hunt.”

Poor Joe, if he believes that then he’s more dumb than I thought. Since I can’t do anything about those whack jobs I just have to laugh because they are so ridiculously and blatantly nuts. So Santorum is a birther, that speaks volumes.


The Gimlet Eye

The only one who comes from a “funny farm” is you and your fascist ideology of go along get along with the warfare state.


Typoqueen

Which one isn’t crazy, which one do you support?


The Gimlet Eye

On the contrary, Ron Paul is the only one in the group of candidates making any sense. The rest are war mongers of the warfare state. War, war, war, and when you are tired of it, MORE WAR.


For them, war is the central organizing principle of civilization.


For Ron Paul, LIBERTY is the central organizing principle of civilization.


Which is better?


That’s not what our country is supposed to be. Ron Paul knows this.


You make fun of him all you want. He knows what will make this country work right far better than you. All you can think of is little green men while you country goes to hell in a hand basket. What a poverty of imagination and knowledge!


What have you mastered, knowledge of UFO’s?


Typoqueen

You must support Ron Paul because he got a thing for Austrian economics as well. So are you voting republican? Just curious.



WiseGuy

Personally, Gimlet, I don’t think you have much true understanding of Austrian economics, even though it appears you think you do.


In any case, there’s a reality about trying to implement changes in our economic system that you simply do not seem to appreciate. Lois Capps, DOES understand this aspect. And I venture that she understands it quite a bit better than you do.


But if you think you are so wise and have all the easy answers, why don’t YOU run for Congress?


The Gimlet Eye

What the hell do I care what you, personally think? This forum reaches thousands of people. It is their opinions which matter. You can go jump.


WiseGuy

Fair enough Gimlet. So why don’t you tell those Thousands of people you imagine read your words why you don’t run for office if you think you would do such a better job at it than Lois Capps?


Those many supposed THOUSANDS of people you imagine you are communicating with would love to hear your response. But if you can, please try to keep it civil.


WiseGuy

Gimlet, we wish YOU understood Austrian Economics the way Ludwig VonMises did. But you and I both know that ain’t gonna happen. There are some realities involved, practical, political realities, that you don’t seem to have a clue about. Dishonesty and criminal behavior and a corrupt, over-consuming, selfish society that tolerates dishonesty and criminality is something not fully accounted for in most discussions of Austrian economics. You act like there is some easy answer, as if all it took is putting a key into a lock, and all will be better, and you seem to be blaming Lois Capps for not turning that key. But it is not that simple, not by a long shot. You are attacking the wrong person.


WiseGuy

If more representatives in Congress shared the same honesty and work-ethics, thoughtfulness and scandal free behavior as Lois Capps, there is little doubt our nation would be in a better place.


Sally

It is easy to be scandal free when you don’t do anything.

Name one law she proposed that passed or for that matter one she proposed that did not pass.


Typoqueen

So you want more laws. It’s so hard to keep up with you guys, one minute you don’t want new laws and the next you do.


danika

I read Sally’s post differently than you did, apparently. I thought she simply asked to name Lois’s laws proposed both passed and not passed. I didn’t see where she stated she wanted more laws.


Sally

See no one can find anything


WiseGuy

But what DOES Sally want, other than simply attacking Lois Capps for no particular or rational reason? What does Sally want Lois Capps to do?


Sally

We need people in Washington that come up with ideas to solve the problems, to do some thinking not just be a nice person but a thinking acting person.


Typoqueen

In Sally’s world, who would that be?


WiseGuy

Lois Capps IS a “thinking acting person.” The fact that she is also “nice” should not be considered a negative factor. Politics is in desperate need of MORE nice, honest, accessible and responsive representatives.


“Sally”, the fact that you offer no specific alternative candidates tells us that you are more interested in expressing your personal frustrations by attacking innocent people rather than promoting positive alternatives.


WiseGuy

Sally, so please tell us what kind of laws would you like Lois Capps to propose? How can she be responsive to your needs if you can’t articulate them and spend so much effort attacking her for reasons that remain a mystery? Maybe if you tried working WITH Lois Capps, communicating your needs in a rational, polite way, you might find that Lois Capps will be your ally and not your enemy.


But you must realize, that Lois Capps can’t be expected to clean all your garbage. You need to take some responsibility yourself for you lot in life. But I nevertheless, if you truly believe there is a political solution for your problems, I urge you to try to work with Lois Capps. Contact her office. You might be surprised. But you have to truly want to work yourself in a spirit of cooperation, otherwise you will poison your situation and any possible assistance Lois Capps might provide.


Sally

The only way you can describe her political position is “yes Nancy”

No origional thinking just on of the lemmings


WiseGuy

Sally, then how do you explain Capps vote AGAINST going to war with Iraq?


Based on your brief comment, and how it is simply a repeat of so much hogwash written elsewhere on this thread, I can’t help thinking that when you are writing about a lack of “original thinking” and “lemmings”, you might be “projecting’ (technical psychology term) just a bit.


Sally

She is going to get one correct once in a while, you do have a 50% chance just by rolling the dice.

I am glad to see someone on the left admit that congress voted us to war and not just the cowboy in office doing it.


WiseGuy

Your “logic” does not hold up, Sally. On the one hand you claim Lois Capps always votes the “party line”, on the other hand you suggest she “rolls the dice” and makes her voting decisions based on chance. If you are logical and sensible and rational, you can’t honestly argue both ways. It doesn’t make sense. You seem desperate and devoid of facts and wisdom in your opinions and accusations.


jwsjr

FIRE EVERYONE IN CONGRESS – THEY ARE ALL WORTHLESS! AND FIRE EVERYONE IN THE ASSEMBLY AND SENATE IN CA!!! Let’s get some real changes in Congress and CA – get rid of everyone and then something might change – can’t be any worse than it is now!!! YOU’RE FIRED LOIS!!!


WiseGuy

You might think that sounds cool or trendy, or you just like repeating poorly thought out opinions you read, but its not very practical or wise or good for our nation unless you have other, better candidates, to fill the empty spots.


SLOBIRD

“BETTER”, really… Pleeze!


jwsjr

Anything could be BETTER – New Ideas Could be BETTER – Opening the eyes to the nation as a whole could be BETTER – Making a choice that is not about how to get re-elected Could be BETTER. ANYTHING COULD BE BETTER than what is in both capitols at this time. Hell – you would be BETTER – as I choke on my tongue – than what is in our elected officials. WE NEED TO COMPLETELY SHAKE THINGS UP and let them know WHO IS BOSS. Is that some trendy idea – I don’t think so.


WiseGuy

jwsjr, sorry, but your comment is not much more than vague gobblety gook. A total lack of substance, buried underneath a pile of meaningless emotional ranting that gets us nowhere.


What specifically would you like Lois Capps to do that she hasn’t already done? And who, specifically is a viable, realistic candidate for the office that you would prefer?


The Gimlet Eye

Henry Miller: “If someone asks you to vote for him at the next election, ask him, I beg you, what he can do for you that you cannot do yourself. Ask him whom he is voting for. If he tells you the truth, then go to the polls and vote for yourself. . . . Does the man who asks for your vote find you your job, does he provide your family with food and shelter, does he put clothes on your back, does he provide the education you need . . . does he even bother to see that you get a decent burial? The only time he is concerned about you is when you can make money for him. No matter how little you make he wants part of it. . . . From childhood you were taught that it is right and just to delegate your powers to someone else. You never questioned it because everything you are taught in school has one purpose: the glorification of your country. Somehow, though it is your country, you seem to have no part in it until the time comes to surrender your life.”


The Gimlet Eye

How about we just fire the government and declare independence?


WiseGuy

The number one thing I want from my Congressman is for her to block any Republican from getting the seat. For the safety and health of the Central Coast, that is foremost. Everything else is founded on that. For the sake of the Central Coast and people like me, that is right up there with disposing of Osama Bin Ladin.


On this account alone, Lois Capps has been amazing, really without compare during my lifetime.


Sure, Lois Capps was elected to be a “law maker”, but as far as I’m concerned, we already have a lot of laws and so I am not expecting her to push for a lot of new laws. If you are hoping for a lot of new federal laws to be drawn up and pushed forward by your representative, then, OK, maybe Lois Capps is not your candidate. But that is what I am looking for in a representative, and I think my viewpoint is shared by tens of thousands of other voters on the Central Coast.


But what I do expect from her she has been doing very well: Being ASTOUNDINGLY responsive to the INDIVIDUAL NEEDS of her constituents, being honest, ethical, accountable, accessible and voting in Congress in ways that are most healthy for her district.


By being a hardworking, ethical and scandal-free representative Lois Capps has, year after year, term after term, fended off dozens of the most repulsive Republican candidates and helped preserve the very best aspects of life on the Central Coast. For that reason alone, Lois Capps is a political hero. Everything else is icing on the cake.


Lois Capps rocks!


SLOBIRD

Boy, have you got blindfolds on. People like you are really the problem and that is why we continue to have business as usual in our government.


WiseGuy

No, actually, my eyes are wide open. Is there something in my comment that you feel is not correct?


south

Other than everything? Dear WiseGuy – The sum total of Ms. Capp’s career has been showing up. Her only legislation has been tatttoo removal for gang bangers! How many years has she been in office hmmm? She is the picture child for useless politicians.


WiseGuy

Not true, “south”. i know many people, in particular several Vietnam veterans, who have found Lois Capps efforts on their behalf to have been invaluable. I find her voting record in congress to be excellent. And she has successfully defended her office from being taken over by some of the most repulsive Republican candidates.


We need MORE honest, ethical, hard-working, scandal free politicians in Congress, ones who are accessible to their constituents, and that’s what we get with Lois Capps. She is an inspiration and fine example of a humble, effective congressional representative.


How about we work it this way: YOU tell us what you would like Lois Capps to do that she hasn’t done.


By the way, you didn’t name anything SPECIFIC as to what YOU believe might be not correct in my statement above.


And I still don’t understand what it is about the tattoo removal program you find so objectionable. It saves taxpayers money AND reduces crime. What EXACTLY is your problem with that? Many of the doctors who volunteered their time for the program felt it was worth THEIR time.


Lewy

If someone is needed to dedicate a memorial tree to commemorate the harsh winter of 1843 that Chinese-immigrant railroad workers endured, just call Lois. Beyond that, well, sorry, – no help here.


WiseGuy

Lewy, you need to brush up on your history. You are WAY off on that date. So, ironically, Lois Capps office probably could help you on that and prevent you from looking foolish and ignorant in your attempts at ‘humor.”


danika

Wisegy, we get that you have “I luv LC” carved in every tree in your front yard, but what we don’t understand is why you sign her praises so highly.


danika

Sing her praises, not sign. Typo.


WiseGuy

Not true, Danika. There are no carved trees in my front yard, and even if there were, that would prove absolutely nothing.


I’ve made clear my reasons for voting for Lois Capps. Most of her critics here offer shaky foundations for their criticism and offer no realistic alternatives.


shelworth

Your right, she did amazing things for us, there was, uh, um yeah, there was something….oh yeah that tattoo removal legislation, and uh, probably something else too.


WiseGuy

the tattoo removal program would save taxpayers money, get criminals off the street, reduce welfare payments, and help people better themselves and become more responsible and productive citizens. What do you have against it? Or are you just mindlessly and ignorantly repeating things you don’t understand?