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Chick-Fil-A battle reaches Cal Poly

August 1, 2012

In support of GOP presidential candidate Mike Huckabee’s proclamation that today is Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, several church groups plan to bus parishioners to Cal Poly to support the restaurant’s anti-gay marriage stance by purchasing meals at Chick-fil-A.

The fast food restaurant chain’s president Dan Cathy said in The Baptist Press on July 16 that the Biblical view of marriage should be upheld.

“We are very much supportive of the family — the biblical definition of the family unit,” Cathy said. “We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that.”

Proponents of equal rights for the gay, lesbian and transgender community plan to arrive on the Cal Poly campus at 11:45 a.m. today to show their support for gay marriage. And on Friday, same sex couples are planning to return to Cal Poly’s Chick-fil-A for public displays of affection in what has been dubbed “National Same Sex Kiss Day.”

“For someone to be so anti-gay is disheartening,” said San Luis Obispo resident Sheryl Flores. “I wonder if Cal Poly will reconsider their relationship with Chick-fil-A in light of the University’s commitment to diversity and tolerance? From what I understand they don’t want gays in the restaurant. What would they do if openly gay people are in their restaurant. Will they ask us to leave?”


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If you don’t like their views…..DON’T EAT THERE!!!!!!! PERIOD!!!!


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I find it amusing that this discussion is coming to Cal Poly that has had a past reputation for intolerance of opinion and diversity of thought. It will be interesting to see if the powers that be bow to the screaming shrill voices of a few.


You may not like the views of folks following 2000 years of accepted behavior, but in our county, it is their right to live as they wish and speak freely.


Let us remember how this all started. There were a few voices condemning the opinions of the President of a fast food restaurant… then calling for a nationwide boycott. The opposite happened… defenders of free speech and those defended traditional values voted with their pocketbooks… and the surge couldn’t be missed.


People are empowered to express themselves… pray that they don’t act to censor you.


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I’m not quite sure what you’re even trying to say with this? That people should have a right to speak either for or against discrimination? I’m pretty sure no one is claiming otherwise.


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AustinMello

This is the type of thing your hateful speech gets you. What a contrast with the peaceful Chick-Fil-A supporters.


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/08/chick-fil-a-kiss-hate-graffiti-vandalized.html


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What hateful speech am I putting here? I’m pretty sure I’m speaking out against intolerance and in favor of everyone’s views being treated equally. If you people will not be satisfied with equal treatment, then I am sorry, but you are not chosen and you are not special. No one has the right to deny the rights of others.

Plain, simple, and impartial.


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Acting in a civil manner is always the classy way to go. Your post of 8-3-12 8:23AM in which you used the F word is not classy and does nothing to further your cause.


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You mean when I said it’s ‘fucking obnoxious’ when people try to control the behavior of the free individuals around them? Yea, I’d use kinder language if I wasn’t describing such a horrendous affront to my freedom.


Hearing you people claim that I am intolerant for not letting you continue to restrict the rights of homosexuals grew old a long time before this thread and my patience for that brand of ignorance is effectively nonexistent. You people need to be told just how ridiculous you’re acting.


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If you must use language like that to get your point across, maybe you are the wrong person to make the point.


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I believe all words are useful tools. I also believe the harsh ones are useful.


I personally find a lot of poetry in those most visceral words. I see no reason to shy away from them when appropriate or to be embarrassed by them. If there ever was a place where they were most at home, comment threads such as this are it. Puritanical reservedness is not one of my values.


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Anyone mature enough, like yourself, to argue that which words used affects the attitudes of people who read a given post, should also be mature enough to understand the usefulness and appropriateness of those words in certain situations, like this one, and also be able to separate the use of those words from the ideas being conveyed.


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I appreciate that vulgar language is offensive to some and in some contexts.


I take significant more offense with the use of phrases like:

“practice of homosexuality” (I was born perfectly homosexual…practice really isn’t necessary), “corrosive elements,” and “degenerative behavior.”


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‘Sexual deviant,’ ‘militant homosexual agenda,’ ‘cavorting,’ ‘simulated homosexual marriages,’ ‘degenerative behavior,’ ‘corrosive elements,’ ‘pervert,’ and ‘twisted’ come to mind, as well.


You almost have to admire the single-minded determination. I have never known a position that requires such blinders. I keep seeing blatant hate-speech tossed around casually by people who are crying out that Dan Cathy’s rights are being quashed and his (their) beliefs attacked by a movement that has nothing to do with them and no interest in limiting their practices.


Sigh. Luckily there can only be one way this goes, and it’s just a matter of time. The unabashed hatred will begin to fall by the wayside shortly after.


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Just realized you covered two of my terms already. I scanned the whole thread and didn’t cross check with your post. So it goes.


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If Chic-a fill is going to use biblical doctrine in their business practice, then they should turn up the heat and go all the way with the total inspired word of the Christian God relative to the homosexual! Take no prisoners!


Before this whole thing turns in to a clustercluck, Chik-a-fill should place a large sign in front of their restaurant that displays the following: “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely BE PUT TO DEATH, their blood shall be upon them.” (Leviticus 20:13 ) Yes? In this way, then they don’t become hypocrites to God’s word about Homosexuals!


Furthermore, everyone that eats at Chic-a-fil should adamantly demand the assurance that they are eating “straight” chickens! As we’re aware, homosexual tendencies are within the animal world as well. Is this too much to ask, absolutely not!


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The only reasonable explanation for your ratio of thumbs up to thumbs down is that the less tolerant among us didn’t realize this was sarcasm. Scary stuff.


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WinShape, Chick-Fil-A’s charitable arm, gave over $1.9 Million To Anti-Gay Groups.

In 2010, WinShape donated $1,974,380 to a number of anti-gay groups:


Marriage & Family Foundation: $1,188,380

Fellowship Of Christian Athletes: $480,000

National Christian Foundation: $247,500

New Mexico Christian Foundation: $54,000

Exodus International: $1,000

Family Research Council: $1,000

Georgia Family Council: $2,500


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Never been there. But I will try it now after hearing from so many people how “God-damn good” their food is. In ‘N Out went through the same thing, religious conservative owners but who cares? The “religious right” empties their wallets for liberal Hollywood blockbusters and TV reality shows – no boycotts. If your asking for a contribution to your political causes the answer is “no”. If you want $2.36 for the best fast food burger out there the answer is “yes”. Isn’t it also nice the Chick-Fil-A forfeits probably 20% of its business so all employees are guaranteed a “day of rest”, church, golf, family, whatever? Or that In ‘N Out provides wages and benefits higher than the industry standard?


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Please do not use the Lord’s Name in vain. Thanks.


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Please do not think to police others peoples free speech. Thanks.


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Thank you Masked man! -or- how the masked mystery man gets himself a Tonto…..


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Crusader,


Please, for the sake of this forum, be ignorant upon your own time, okay?


Ther term “God” is a title, like President, Vice President, etc. Therefore, Turquoise was not in any way using the Lord’s “name” in vain. Get it?


Now, if it was said; “Yahweh damn, or Jehovah damn”, then by using this God’s direct name, would be taking the Lords name in vain. Understand? Sure you do.


I really do get tired of schooling the pseudo-christian element in this forum, really.


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“Ignorant?”


Talk about the pot/kettle relationship…


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Crusader,


You made a faux pas regarding God’s title relative to His name, I have now schooled you so you won’t make the same mistake again. You’re welcome.


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I swore to myself I was done indulging your trolling, but this is such a perfect example that I can’t resist it. To everyone out there who feels like the progress towards marriage equality is an affront to your religious freedoms:


Expecting people with beliefs other than yours not to take the lord’s name in vain is preposterous. Yes, it is a rule in your religion, and those of you who believe it are obligated to follow it. The rest of us, however, do NOT share your worldview and are free to use the lord’s name however damn well please.


It is not an affront to your freedom for me to break commandments. I do not believe in the commandments and see no reason to follow those that do not correlate with my ethics.


Sure, freedom of speech ensures that you can ask people to abide by your beliefs for the sake of your comfort, but no one has any obligation to do so. Asking people to follow ridiculous or bigoted rules, and doing so incessantly, while still legal, is fucking obnoxious and no one but your fellow literalists are interested in it.


Learn a little courtesy. Keep the church talk for your church friends and interact with the rest of us like a normal person. Contrary to your belief, it is NOT your place to save anyone and the more forceful you are about it the faster your going to deplete your constituency. The youth of today see your elitism and bigotry for what it is. Whether they share your religion or not, the religious extremism you display is a dying breed. The absolute nutjobbery we’re seeing from groups like the tea party are the last dying, flailing gurgles of a long out-of-date ideal.


The world is a different place. You cannot scare people into following you. Information is too readily available to modern youth for stone-age mythology to keep them from learning real history.


You’re wasting your breath.


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austinmello,


Damn it, I “secretly” have to agree with you 100 percent!


Whoops, did I blow my cover? I certainly hope not!


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austinmello….your posts have been refreshingly brillant, informative and most importantly, based on facts. Thanks for putting into words what many of us think but lack your witing skills to communicate so effectively.


Also….this business owner can espouse any ideology he wants but I find that it’s a much better practice to keep your religion and politics to yourself and focus on the the job of running a business. I’ve never eaten at this chain and now I won’t due as I find their overt bigotry simply repugnant just like I won’t go to Carl’s Jr. and Domino’s for similar reasons. And likewise, those of you who support this CEO’s position can refuse to patronize businesses that take moral and ethical positions you dislike. It’s America and you are free to choose your fast food and ultimately, were your money goes. At the end of the day, the 1st Amendment guarantees your freedom of speech but doesn’t say anything about freedom from criticism.


thecat


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The difference between Chick Fil A and In ‘N Out is that In ‘N Out doesn’t make a point of supporting the restriction of the rights of others. If Chick Fil A was merely printing bible verses on cups, I don’t think any of us would have a problem with that. I don’t care what private companies do, as long as their actions don’t hurt other people. Chick Fil A has proudly taken action to hurt other people, which is not equivalent to the religious speech of In “N Out or the imagined or real political speech of Hollywood.


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The media handlers and strategists for the Gay rights movement should be shot. Why on earth would the gay movement want to take a stance and orchestrate such a media circus over the opinion of the owner of a fast food outlet. And i might add someone who would give that outlet the name chic-fil-a…..give me a break. The guy never said he opposed gays or was anti-gay….sure it was implied but not stated. This whole 15 minutes has given strength to the lunatic christians and credibility to yet another mindless talkshow host (in this case Huckabee). It is leadership like this that is holding back the gay movement and led to the passage of Prop 8. Pick your battles people……!!!!


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“The media handlers and strategists for the Gay rights movement”


I think the majority of the response was knee jerk by individuals so by the time any groups could weigh in to help guide the situation, they had little say.


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The idea that the movement has this kind of organization or structure is pretty funny to me. Some people just can’t accept that others act as individuals.


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