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Los Osos church vandals found but not arrested

June 14, 2013

churchSan Luis Obispo County Sheriff’s investigators found two suspects who admitted to vandalizing a Los Osos church Sunday morning, but they did not make any arrests.

An 18-year-old Morro Bay man and a 19-year-old Los Osos man admitted to vandalizing St. Elizabeth Ann Seton Church early Sunday morning after initially denying doing so.

Around 4 a.m. Sunday, vandals broke seven stained glass windows and three other windows.

The Sheriff’s Office is forwarding the case to the San Luis Obispo County District Attorney’s Office, but is not releasing the identities of the suspects.

No other suspects remain in the case.

The Sheriff’s Office says the incident was not a hate crime.

 


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Whoa! Multiple choice question here: Vandals are related to: a). a cop, b) a DA, c) a Judge, d) anyone living in the wealthy sections of SLO county.


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e) Members of said Church?


I don’t know. I understand your point about corruption, but another possibility is they are known by the Church – maybe even their parents still attend?


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I would add f). a politician. But really, anything that would detract a law enforcement agency from doing what they do best, that is, investigate and arrest people, is probably due to phone calls being made, and a favor being bestowed.


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Teddy, Yahweh is calling. “It’s a fine line between Saturday night and Sunday morning.”


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Much like our battling SLO fireman, these guys are being given time to clean up, and get lawyered up. They must have connections, because any other pair of punks would have been booked that night. Why does law enforcement expect top shelf respect, when they deal in gutter level politics?

Bad cops! No doughnuts!


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Yeah, and what about the brats who kill people while texting or driving their Bimmers high on drugs? We’ve had a whole bunch of those under this DA that have ended in a couple years’ probation — for killing somebody! And the homeless “good Samaritan” who helped out the guy who was attacked by some well-connected drunk punks in downtown SLO? They’re throwing the book at him. What’s with this DA?


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I would make them clean and paint and landscape every church in Los Osos and the cost of materials would be billed to their worthless parents.


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Rambunctious,


Don’t be a wussy!


The TRUE Christian way, that many pseudo-christians don’t follow, is to beat these two miscreants with a rod administering great pain upon them because of their ungodly wrongdoings!


“Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him.” (Proverbs 13:24)


“For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.” (Hebrews 12:11)


“Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you strike him with a rod, he will not die. If you strike him with the rod, you will save his soul from Sheol. My son, if your heart is wise, my heart too will be glad.” (Proverbs 23:13-15)


“Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline drives it far from him. (Proverbs 22:15)


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The works of mercy are charitable actions by which we come to the aid of our neighbor in his spiritual and bodily necessities. Instructing, advising, consoling, comforting are spiritual works of mercy, as are forgiving and bearing wrongs patiently.

242 cf. Isa 58:6-7; Heb 13:3.


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Also; bearing wrongs patiently…my way is very patient…it should take them two summers to finish all of the work. lol


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Rambunctious,


So, we can only assume that you know more than the inspired word of God when it comes to disipline by not beating children with rods! To get those passages in question in my post above out of sight, do you magic marker over them, or do you just cut them out of your Judeo-Christian bible?


Jesus promised the inspiration of New Testament doctrine, prophecy, and ethics as well. He promised His disciples that He would send them the Holy Spirit who would teach them and help them remember the things they had seen and heard when Jesus was among them. (John 14 :.26) In part, the beating of children passages shown, are a part of that prophecy because they reside within the New Testament.


With great sadness, I will mark you down with a plethora of other pseudo-christians that write their own scritpures to what they want to hear, like you’ve done in your Satanic post above. Sad.


“For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.” (2 Timothy 4:3)


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First, these boys (young men) must pay $40,000 to replace the stained windows, then you boys can impose your sentences, and I vote for both, they deserve it…


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Ted all I know is among other things…God gave me free will, a conscience, a brain and judgement. I try my best to put it all together for every situation. When God made me he made a thinking feeling human being not an adhering robotic literal admirer. Maybe you should put the Good Book down for a while and get a copy of Popular mechanics or something. When you were a child did you get your ear yanked on by a Nun or something?


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Rambunctious,


“God gave me free will, a conscience, a brain and judgement.”


FREE WILL:

Barring a lengthy discussion on the topic of “freewill” and of God having omniscience at the same time where He knows EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYONE in what is going to happen to them in minute detail in the future, you DO NOT have this alleged free will because of this biblical axiom. Get it?


CONSCIENCE:

Addressing your conscience is a different proposition. When the DIRECT WORD of God commands you to beat children when they have done wrong, and your conscience says otherwise, then you again go directly against God’s commands by becoming a minion of Satan. In essence, you know more than God which is blaspheme in its purest form! If you continue in this vein, I would advise you to wear an asbestos suit upon your demise.


BRAIN:

You have a brain that the Hebrew part of the Hebrew-Christian God has given to you in the creation narrative in Genesis. Within this brain, it is expected of you to follow the DIRECT INSPIRED WORDS of this god concept, period. You DO NOT have the choice in any way to know more than GOD or to usurp His commands in not beating children if need be in the passages in question!


JUDGMENT:

Relative to judging these two ungodly boys, the Lord Jesus Christ commanded, “Judge righteous judgment” (John 7:24). He told a man, “Thou hast rightly judged” (Luke 7:43). And, seemingly the most important judging passage is when Jesus Himself stated; “Why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?” (Luke 12:57).


Biblically, the right judgment regarding the vandals of this church, is that they did wrong. Therefore, following the biblical principles of God’s DIRECT WORD relating to judging and the commands of wrongdoing children, then they should be beaten with rods because NO Christian has the authority to usurp God’s commands in this respect, NO ONE, period!


Rambunctious, I will pray for you tonight to see the godly logic behind the ENTIRE BIBLE for a change, instead of your Satanic rewriting of same. You can thank me later.


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Satanic rewrite? OMG LMAO. Okay Ted you do that…


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Rambunctious,


Simple logical deduction, when you go against the direct word of God in relation to his COMMANDS in beating of children that did wrong, then you are in fact, trying in vain to rewrite the bible to YOUR way of thinking, and not God’s way. Once again, in essence, you’re portending to more than God. Get it? This premise does not bode well upon Judgment Day! 2+2=4.


At your leisure, reread 2 Timothy 4:3, of which God’s creation was warned, and of which, you’re guilty of as is explicitly shown.


Don’t worry, I’ll still pray for you tonight for your needed enlightenment if you’re going to follow the Christian faith and what is expected of you when you do.


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Sorry, Brother Ted, the Bible has been changed by Dr. Crocker (SLO County Schools) and the BOS. They have a Children’s Bill of Rights law now a you can’t touch the little darlings, they are now the property of the government. Stay on top of these changes Brother, stop the bible reading and read the City Council and BOS agendas (APCD should not be read as they don’t know how to play yet).


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SLOBIRD,


The bible has changed? Surely you jest?! “You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take anything from it” (Deuteronomy 4:2 ) The reason God is so adamant on this is because “The entirety of Your word is truth.” (Psalms 119: 160). “Add thou not unto His words, lest He reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.” (Proverbs 30:6)


“All Scripture is inspired by God” (2 Timothy 3:16), and the scriptures were moved by the Holy Spirit in their writings (2 Peter 1:21).


Therefore, when the GOD BREATHED AND INSPIRED DIRECT WORD of the Hebrew-Christian God states with specificity that you are to beat your child as discipline measures when they do something wrong, you are allowed to do just that, irrespective of Mr. Crocker and his milque toasty man-made candy @ssed provisions that say otherwise!


For TRUE Christians, who are they going to follow in this respect? Mr. Crocker with his ungodly man-made rules that children are not to be beaten, or God’s DIRECT WORDS that they are? Huh? God or Mr. Crocker? Christians should make the correct decision to save themselves from the burning sulfur lakes of Hell upon their demise!


“For he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer.” ( Romans 13:4 )


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Obviously, these are someone’s special son(s). These are two adults who committed a crime of damaging $40,000 in Church property (maybe multiple times) and the community certainly has a right to know who they are and they need to be held fully accountable for their misdeeds. Why are they not releasing their names?


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and why were they not arrested. Public has a right to know!


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SLOBIRD, thank you, finally. This was plain f’g obvious and yet 17 comments jabbering on about whether they got off with no arrest/public identification because they attacked a CHRISTIAN church before your comment (me, I just got home). CCN you know what your job is….


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Or maybe the church is going to get $40,000 plus quite a bit more for emotional damages in exchange for some consideration.


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I hope Cal Coast News stays with this one. The people deserve an explanation as to why this is not considered a hate crime. Is it possible that these men are also guilty of vandalism of the schools and playgrounds in this area? Maybe they are vandalizing everything and have no preference? Our government has the duty to be transparent in what they do. This secrecy is not a good thing.


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Simple, because it is a Christian Church…


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easymoney,


Wrong, it’s a Catholic Church.


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It was a church of the Christian faith, not a muslim or other non Christian church… Small detail ted…


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Are Catholic’s not Christian, Brother Ted?


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Catholic Christians are the Proto-Christians.


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SLOBIRD,


No, the Catholics are not Christians by the true sense of the term.


Barring the Roman Catholic Church aiding and abetting the hiding of their pedophile priests since 1962, which is so ungodly that I don’ t even have enough disparaging words to throw at them at this time, they are NOT Christians for myriad of godly reasons that go directly against the Judeo-Christian bible of TRUE Christianity. There’re too many godly examples to prove this fact, of which cannot be exposed within this thread because it would continue to be off topic.


Because of the facts stated above, this may be the reasoning behind this vandalization of this church. If proven to be so, then it may have been done in a Christian way in like manner as the Christians were against the Catholics in recent Northern Ireland.


In any event, the two miscreants should be arrested post haste!!!


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Ted, you’ve never been on topic.


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coltrane,


Show me in my posts in this thread, where I am allegedlly off topic, like this post is at this time. I have covered all of God’s bases!


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TEDDY MY BOY,


You are so ill informed. The Catholic church can trace it’s lineage back to the first Pope, Peter. One of Christ’s original 12 Apostles. Christ told Peter you are my rock and upon you I will build my Church. The cover up by the Church leaders is a travesty and an embarrassment to all Catholics. It will not happen again…..


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Except it cannot. Unfortunately the Roman Catholic church (not to be confused with other types of Holy Catholic and Apostolic churches) can really only trace it’s roots to 1009 (Pope Sergius of Rome) which later boiled into The Great Schism of 1054 (the year the Romans split off from the rest of Christianity). They’ve been very different ever since.


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Who teaches you this garbage? Jack Chick? Loraine Boettner? Jimmy Swaggert? Your use of “Roman Catholic church” is akin to having “anti-Catholic bigot” tattooed on your forehead. You’re telegraphing your anti-Catholic bigotry before you type another word.

It was the East that went into schism in 1054, not the Western Church also known as the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is whole today — with both its Latin (Western) and Eastern halves. We also no longer view the Orthodox as being in schism — a charge that was mutually lifted in the 1960’s.


While there is great division amongst the different Orthodox state churches, we view them as part of the Catholic Church in a state of imperfect communion.


As an obvious heretic to the faith perhaps you should actually spend some time studying the history of Christendom rather than spewing your anti-Catholic blather?


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It is a hate crime against a church, doesn’t matter which flavor, but it does matter that

“An 18-year-old Morro Bay man and a 19-year-old Los Osos man admitted to vandalizing St. Elizabeth Ann Seton Church early Sunday morning after initially denying doing so.”

an outrageous crime was committed against us. It does matter that youths act out against any church. It matters that not many people see anything wrong with this…


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What the hell do they mean when they say it wasn’t a hate crime? BLASPHEME! It was most certainly a hate crime against the Hebrew-Christian God!


If the Hebrew-Christian God killed Onan for just spilling his seed on the floor instead of impregnating his brother’s wife (Genesis 38:10), what the hell do you think His vengeance is going be towards these two boys who broke the windows of one of His divisions of Christianity, known as the Catholic Church?


“Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” (Romans 12:19)


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“…who admitted to vandalizing a Los Osos church…”


“…but they did not make any arrests…”


“…but is not releasing the identities of the suspects…”


WHY? “lakerhater” is correct. If this was a mosque or LGBT facility the criminals would have been arrested and their names would be all over the news!


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OR – here’s a thought… just throwing it out there: NO CHARGES WERE BROUGHT / PRESSED FOR?


Let’s ask the Church if they were offered to press charges or dropped them before declaring such things.


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It would only be a hate crime if it was a mosque or a Lesbian Gay Bi Transgender facility. Attacking a Christians is perfectly ok in todays upside down society.


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