Illegal immigrants accused of violent Central Coast attacks

August 5, 2015

immigrationBy JOSH FRIEDMAN

Two men accused of committing recent assaults that left Central Coast residents with serious injuries have been identified by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) as illegal immigrants, and one of the suspects is now out of jail.

On July 24, a 64-year-old Santa Maria woman was sexually assaulted after a man broke into her house while she was sleeping. The woman was allegedly beaten with a hammer and suffered severe injuries during the violent struggle.

She died in the hospital eight days later. It is currently unknown whether she died as a result of the injuries sustained during the attack.

Last week, Paso Robles police announced a 2-year-old girl had suffered significant injuries, including multiple fractures, as a result of a beating committed by her mother’s live-in boyfriend. The girl had to be transferred to a special treatment facility in Madera because of the severity of her injuries.

Victor Aureliano Martinez

Victor Aureliano Martinez

Shortly following the sexual assault in Santa Maria, police arrested 29-year-old Victor Aureliano Martinez. He is charged with attempted murder and sexual assault and could face a murder charge, depending on the results of the investigation into the victim’s death.

Martinez is currently in Santa Barbara County Jail, according to Santa Maria police. Martinez is a Mexican national who entered the United States illegally, and he has reportedly been arrested four times in the last two years.

On Tuesday, Santa Maria police charged a second suspect in the sexual assault case. Jose Villagomez, 20, is also charged with attempted murder and sexual assault.

Villagomez was already in Santa Barbara County Jail, following an arrest on separate charges that occurred on July 28. Authorities have not stated publicly whether or not Villagomez is a legal resident.

Francisco Javier Chavez, 27, the live-in boyfriend who allegedly attacked the two-year-old Paso Robles girl, is also a Mexican national. Chavez has an extensive criminal history, and he was deported from the United States in 2014, according to ICE. [KSBY]

Chavez’s prior convictions include assault with a deadly weapon and drug trafficking counts.

Francisco Javier Chavez

Francisco Javier Chavez

On July 30, police arrested Chavez and booked him in San Luis Obispo County Jail. ICE then issued a detainer request.

But, on the following day, Chavez posted $100,000 bail. The San Luis Obispo County Sheriff’s Office then released him from jail.

California law bars law enforcement agencies from holding illegal immigrants in jail who are otherwise eligible for release. As a result, ICE detainer requests are non-binding in California.

In response to Chavez’s release from jail, San Luis Obispo County Sheriff Ian Parkinson issued a statement saying a 2014 court decision prohibits California sheriffs from placing an ICE hold on a jail inmate unless federal authorities issue a warrant for the suspect. Parkison said said he is not happy with the current state of the law on the issue.

AB 4, a bill signed into law by Governor Jerry Brown in October 2013, prohibits state and local law enforcement from keeping suspects in jail on an ICE hold after they become otherwise eligible for release. However, AB 4 states under certain circumstances, law enforcement can detain an individual on an immigration hold after the person becomes eligible for release.

Those circumstances include when the illegal immigrant has been convicted of a serious or violent felony. AB 4 also lists specific convictions that warrant an immigration hold. They include assault, child abuse, felony DUI, possession of an unlawful deadly weapon, drug trafficking, crime resulting in great bodily injury and possession or use of a firearm in an offense.

ICE alleges Chavez has convictions that include drug trafficking and assault with a deadly weapon offenses. Additionally, ICE says a drunk driving conviction in SLO County triggered his deportation last year. [Tribune]

Parkinson also said San Luis Obispo County is not like San Francisco, which is a sanctuary city and county. Authorities in sanctuary cities do not hand over suspects to immigration officers.

On July 1, an illegal immigrant allegedly shot and killed Cal Poly grad Kathryn Steinle, 32, at a San Francisco pier. The man arrested for the murder had been deported five times, but he was allowed to stay in the country following a March arrest because of San Francisco’s status as a sanctuary city.

The Tribune reported that the two-year-old Paso Robles girl was in serious but stable condition, as of Monday. Her injuries include a broken leg, two broken arms, a compressed spine, bruises and a significant urinary tract infection.

She also had a 107-degree fever.

An autopsy will take place Thursday for Marilyn Pharis, the woman who died following the violent sexual assault in Santa Maria. A representative of her family said she died of a coronary embolism.



  1. r0y says:

    I imagine the “moderator” must be working overtime on this piece…

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    • moderator says:

      mistakes were made, my apology Here

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      • easymoney says:

        Mistakes were made by law enforcement and the courts in Chavez case. Who in their right mind would bail a perp who beat a two year old child within an inch of it’s life? And then not keep track of them after they were released?
        He’s gone now and the damage is done, heads should roll…

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  2. CentralcoastRN says:

    I am sure these men were just here to work. Quit being so racist. Wow. And now CPS social workers have another kid to steal away and adopt out for BIG MONEY. (For those of you who cannot tell, that’s sarcasm. These days, I find I have to spell that out)

    When people like Jerry Brown are allowed to remain in power, this is what happens. Elderly women get raped, babies get beaten and left to swell up and dehydrate for hours/days. DREAM acts and freebies happen like that movie “Field of Dreams”; give it and they will come. We won’t build Dams, but we are getting a bullet train to nowhere. We are fining residents for washing their clothes and bathing, yet we continue to build!!

    Does this at all seem reasonable?

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    • shelworth says:

      Very simply, the “Left” stays in power as long as there are more people who vote themselves “stuff” rather than vote for the good of the country.

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  3. JMO says:

    Hey, just another thought here. Ever been to Mexico and notice how most people are nice, honest, physically attractive, don’t have tattoos all over the place? Wait. Maybe Trump is on to something here. Maybe the Border Patrol he is talking to actually know what they are talking about.

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    • Ted Slanders says:


      Sorry to bother you again, but there’re immigrants crossing our borders that are not Mexican. Many are from Central America, running from violent countries. Just imagine if you lived in one of these countries in question looking for a safe haven in the USA? If it was up to achillesheaL, he would shoot you dead on the spot! (Obviously achillesheal is not a Christian in any sense of the term).

      The irony is that the only non-immigrant in the USA are Native Indians, and another interesting fact is Mexico has an immigration problem as well, it’s called “American Retirees” that do not at times gain visas to stay in Mexico over long periods of time. As long as they don’t commit a crime, these “US citizens” are usually not deported, but are required to pay a fine nonetheless and get legal documentation to stay in Mexico as soon as possible. This is in effect, that scary word “amnesty.”

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      • JMO says:

        Have you visited Mexico and Central America? I have. And am going again.

        Believe me, the only (I mean ONLY) reason they are coming to the U.S. is to make money. Can’t blame them, but lets be honest here.

        Just like the Chinese who come here in containers and then claim persecution (I know “a little” about this). They pay thousands of dollars to get here and are coached on what to say (such as the One Child Policy). It’s a game to them. If it didn’t work, they wouldn’t do it. You also have the pregnant Chinese in Rosemead who are here only to get U.S. citizenship for their child. Not a few, not a hundred, thousands of them. You see them going shopping in a van provided by their “host”. Three pregnant ladies hopping out of a mini-van. Whether the U.S. government knows about this or not, the rest of the world does and thinks we are stupid. They STH (Shake Their Heads).

        Remember Malaysia Flight 370? There were something like 3 kids on the plane with U.S. passports. They had Chinese parents. They were just on vacation, but how did they get U.S. passports? Certainly the Chinese frontier control officials who process their entry back into China know what’s going on and could care less. China has very strict entry and exit rules. If you overstay your visa it is a $60 a day fine (might be more now with the exchange rate). And believe me they don’t feel sorry for you.

        But you (and many others) will believe what you want to believe.

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        • Ted Slanders says:


          “But you (and many others) will believe what you want to believe.”

          No, I don’t rely upon circular reasoning like you and many others are guilty of because I tend to accept actual “facts” relative to any topic, therefore I don’t rely upon Faux News to tell me otherwise to promote a GOP agenda against Obama that falls flat on its face when Republicans do NOTHING to prevent what they’re allegedly against, unauthorized immigration. Remove the embarrassing Republican “Teabillies” and something might get accomplished, again.

          ” …….Over the same time period, the number of unauthorized immigrants from Asia, the Caribbean, Central America and a grouping of countries in the Middle East, Africa and some other areas grew slightly (unauthorized immigrant populations from South America and Europe/Canada did not change significantly).”

          “Unauthorized Immigrants”entering the USA according to MPI estimates, about 8.1 million (71 percent of the total unauthorized population) unauthorized immigrants in the 2008-12 period were born in Mexico and other Central America countries. About 1.5 million (13 percent) were from Asia; 817,000 (7 percent) from South America; 455,000 (4 percent) from Europe, Canada, or Oceania; 317,000 (3 percent) from Africa; and 225,000 (2 percent) from the Caribbean.

          When is the GOP going to build additional fences around ALL, and I repeat, ALL of our coast lines and put more vigilance around our sea ports to prevent those “other” immigrants coming into our country?

          The GOP wanted to be in control, now that they have it, and they do NOTHING about immigration, other than to spend their time repealing Obamacare for the millionth time, voting to remove women’s rights, and a “plethora” of other nonsensical voting items at the taxpayers expense.

          I can plainly see that you are NOT a Christian as well with your posting history regarding immigration. If you perceive to be a Christian, then it is in name only because you’re a hypocrite to the inspired word of the bible!

          “Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute.” (Psalm 82:3)

          “Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed.” (Proverbs 19:17)

          Jesus said: “Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves. Protect the rights of all who are helpless.” ( Proverbs 31:8)

          “For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I COMMAND YOU, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’ (Deuteronomy 15:11)

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  4. JMO says:

    Just read an article in the TT about Covered California. Rates are only going up 4% next year. But so is the deductible (from $5,000 to $6,000) and ER visits are going to cost 100% until the deductible is met. This year it only went up 4.2% but the Bronze plan copay dropped from 70% to 60%. When you crunch the numbers, last years actual cost went up MUCH MORE than 4.2%. Next year’s actual cost will go up MUCH MORE than 4%. The 47% (actually 53%) that voted for Obama are, lucky for Liberals, terrible at math. Just like Obama is terrible at math.

    So, for us the Bronze plan (family of 4) is $1,305 a month, or $15,660 a year. It isn’t tax deductible so I have to make $30,000 (I am a small business owner) to pay the $15,000. And that is if none of us get sick or injured. We have been healthy and haven’t spent more than $2,000/year for I don’t know how long. Therefore, the $15,660 is just like flushing it down the toilet. If we were to simply put the $15,660 each year in a savings account, in 10 years we would have (wait for it) $156,600 (plus whatever miniscule interest we get). In 10 years WE COULD BE SELF INSURED! Stupid liberals.

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    • Ted Slanders says:


      Using your propositions, then just think of how much you would equally have saved in ten years by not having any auto accidents, whose insurance payments were flushed down the drain as well! Wait, or how about the savings on home insurance premiums if your house didn’t burn down, where those payments were flushed as well? Under your analogy, in ten years you would be even more wealthy, but that’s not how it works, does it?

      Now, I am going to use a real scary term that the Faux New’s alumni get really frightened about, ready? This is how SOCIALISM works, the members of the society have agreed to pay to protect everyone in the society from future misfortune. Get it?

      To not be hypocritical, I would suggest that you call Covered California (Obamacare) post haste and tell them that you will SIGN OFF AND NOT ACCEPT the following parts of the ACA is giving you over your previous and costly healthcare, okay?

      1. Tell them you DO NOT want the status of no more preexisting conditions.

      2. Tell them you DO NOT want the lifetime or annual dollar limits on Essential Health Benefits which include screenings, preventions, and treatments for most life threatening sickness such as cancer.

      3. Tell them you DO NOT want the free wellness and preventive services where there is no longer a reason to put off doctor visits, meaning early detection will help stop sickness before it starts and early treatments will help treat people before its too late.

      4. Tell them you DO NOT want to have your offspring to remain on your health insurance up to 26 years of age.

      Question, if you’re so upset about Covered California, why don’t you seek out a private healthcare insurance program? You do have this option, remember? The only thing is that it has to meet the “minimum” of the ACA requirements, which equals no more “junk healthcare.”

      To save further uneasiness for you, I will stop at only these facts, where there is a “plethora” of other additions you are now enjoying in your Covered California that you didn’t have before. You can thank me later.

      Conversely, are all Conservatives this inept of facts?

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      • JMO says:

        Thanks for responding Ted. Obviously my post has nothing to do with this article but I just wanted to get this off my chest.

        Car Insurance – $600/year, $1 Million policy

        House Insurance – $495/year, $550,000 policy

        Both reasonable. Our house is free and clear. If we don’t want insurance, we don’t have to buy it. Same for car insurance. If I don’t own a car, I don’t need to buy insurance. By the way, if I had drunk driving convictions, accidents, etc. my car insurance would be MUCH HIGHER. MUCH HIGHER. None of that “pre-existing conditions” stuff. And, by the way, if you don’t have auto insurance and want to get it for the first time, you pay more than someone who has a record of having auto insurance. Why can they do that with auto insurance and not health insurance?

        Why can’t I have the same options with health insurance? If I live a healthy life style, exercise, don’t engage in risky behavior, why do I have to pay the same as someone who smokes, is obese, sedentary, and engages in risky behavior?

        Before Obamacare, our insurance was reasonable ($6K/year for high deductible of $6K, then 80% after that and included a physical for free – family of 4). After Obamacare it is now $15k/year, $10K deductible, 60% after the deductible. The “before Obamacare” rate was reasonable and worked well for us. The “after Obamacare” rate is too much and I don’t want it. I would rather self insure. Why can’t I have that option?

        When all this Obamacare stuff hit us a couple years ago, I did some rough number crunching. Over the years our family spent approximately $145,000 on health insurance (over a 30 year period). We probably redeemed less than $50,000 with the majority of that for having 2 kids (at todays dollars, it is approx. $15K a kid). It was a fair value for us. I would rather be healthy and not have to redeem anything from my health insurance policy. But with Obamacare, in 5 years we will spend more than $75,000 for insurance. I highly doubt we will recoup ANYTHING after the deduction in those 5 years. I would be more than happy to keep our old plan. Why can’t we? Someone said (with a straight face) that we could. And I believed him. I really did. (Don’t tell anyone, but I voted for him too).

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        • Ted Slanders says:


          Seemingly, if you live a healthy lifestyle, it is “alleged” or “hearsay” to the healthcare companies, notwithstanding, even healthy people get serious illnesses, like cancer which is very costly. Therefore, health insurance companies have to cover all the bases. Whereas, your driving past is on record with not only the DMV, but with your auto insurance company which are absolutes in ultimately determining your auto insurance rates based upon your driving record.

          Your previous health insurance rates as stated is hearsay without factual documentation to prove itself otherwise relative to your new insurance costs and what total pluses or minuses’ of each had in said policies . I would suggest you peruse the following link relative to having your previous insurance. There’re many other actual facts that might interest you as well.

          As I stated before, no matter what we pay towards healthcare costs, auto and home insurance, or monies towards “Social” Security and Medicare, it is SOCIALISM, period. In the same vein, you may never recover the costs spent upon these entities, but you are required in making these payments, or purchasing them nonetheless if warranted, for “peace of mind” even if you never plan on using them. This is the way a Capitalistic / Socialist Nation operates.

          Your silence upon what Obamacare gives you to help your family overall in the long run is duly noted.

          If you like what Bernie Sanders brings forth in overhauling our government, then don’t forget, he is an admitted “SOCIALIST!” Scary Catch-22, isn’t it?

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          • JMO says:

            I presented my case. If there is anyone on the fence over Obamacare, I will let them come to their own conclusions. So, to all the people in the U.S. that haven’t made up your mind about Obamacare, I hope you both read my comments.

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            • Moderator says:

              ” Obviously my post has nothing to do with this article but I just wanted to get this off my chest.”
              “I presented my case. If there is anyone on the fence over Obamacare”

              Way off topic, using a sad event to politick the ACA and you knew it. Please do not hijack comment threads.

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        • mkaney says:

          You have asked the million dollar question, “Why can they do that with auto insurance and not health insurance?” And that my friend, is what I believe is the key to this whole problem. They can’t do it with health insurance because insurance is a third party payer, whereas in auto insurance they pay you, and then can shop around and keep the difference. This allows market forces to continue to work.

          They need to do the same with health insurance.

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  5. Ted Slanders says:

    achillesheal says;
    08/07/2015 at 4:01 pm
    “If I were a border patrol agent charged with enforcing the laws of the United States (rather than ignoring those laws), the answer is YES.”

    Barring the fact that the Border Patrol does not shoot immigrants because they cross our border, this all we need to know about achillesheal, he would SHOOT DEAD the innocent little girl as depicted crossing our border with her dolls in hand as shown in the link below.

    Thank you achillesheal for admitting your disgusting outcome, and I am at a loss for words of being able to put them together for your type of repugnant modus operandi. Truly sickening.

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    • achillesheal says:

      Don’t let the innocent look fool you. She is likely a mule for drug runners.

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      • Ted Slanders says:


        What a great example you’ve given us, in grasping for straws that are not even there!

        Come on, admit it, you’re a writer for Faux News, right?

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        • achillesheal says:

          A picture of a little innocent border crosser to prove a point ithat illegal alien murderers belong here isn’t grasping.

          I hope border patrol broke open the dolls before they put her on the welfare rolls.

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          • Ted Slanders says:


            See, I was right, you are a writer for Faux News! One thing for sure is the fact that you’re not a Christian, as if we didn’t know this at the onset!

            “Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute.” (Psalm 82:3)

            “Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed.” (Proverbs 19:17)

            Jesus said: “Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves. Protect the rights of all who are helpless.” ( Proverbs 31:8)

            “For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I COMMAND YOU, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’ (Deuteronomy 15:11)

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            • achillesheal says:

              I bet the illegal alien murdering Mexicans pictured in the article above are Christians. Fine company you keep.

              As for Fox News…I neither write for them nor do I write for CNN (the Clinton news network) or PMSNBC.

              I have strong opinions about illegal immigrants and the billions of dollars that they are costing our economy, as well as committing criminal acts destroying people’s lives, not assimilating to society, not learning the language.

              They are an economic drag on the US and one of the many reasons the economic expansion has been the most anemic ever following a recession. This is all being done so there will be a permanent underclass in this society beholden to government, thus strengthening government. It is disgusting.

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  6. Pelican1 says:

    Barbara Jordan said it best….“credibility of immigration policy can be measured by a simple yardstick: people who should get in, do get in; people who should not get in, are kept out; and people who are judged deportable are required to leave.”

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  7. Slowerfaster says:

    I want to build a border fence …like ‘the Donald’.
    Except, I would make it a vast solar farm. It would be like a maze, with plenty employed to patrol and clean …and along the way, to intercept any interlopers. It would also be large enough ( not just a strip ) to forestall any ‘El Chapo’ tunnels.

    We could then be energy self-sufficient, without nuclear or carbon, in a very short amount of years.

    This is a solution that both conservatives and liberals could live with.
    ( But not oil gazzilionaires and plutocrats that rely on cheap labor ! )

    (8) 16 Total Votes - 12 up - 4 down
  8. Ted Slanders says:

    achillesheal says:
    08/07/2015 at 7:05 am
    “When one crosses the border illegally, they are technically invading this country and should be given one warning to turn around, then shot dead. Its an easy situation to fix.”

    Are there any other outright merciless unchristian like individuals like “achillesheal” that could SHOOT DEAD this beautiful little girl that is running from a violent life in Honduras, therefore coming across our border for a safe haven, like shown in the picture below?

    Anyone agree with ACHILLESHEAL’S proposition upon this topic?

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    • kayaknut says:

      Let’s ask the lady in S.F., oh wait a minute she can;’t answer, she’s dead at the hands of one of your illegals.

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      • Ted Slanders says:


        Why am I not surprised that you’re missing the point, but thanks for trying!

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        • kayaknut says:

          Did it ever occur to you that maybe it’s your point that was missing? probably not.

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    • achillesheal says:

      Messiers Martinez and Chavez were once innocent beautiful little boys trying to escape to a better place as well. How did that turn out?

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      • Slowerfaster says:

        And what about Timothy McVeigh, Jared Lee Loughner, Adam Lanza, James Holmes, and Dylan Roof ?

        Weren’t they all once “innocent beautiful little boys” too ?

        What say you to the white supremacist killers in our midst ?

        No …you’ll ignore THAT !

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        • achillesheal says:

          They, unfortunately, were born here. The perps above should never have been here.

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    • achillesheal says:

      I agree with him 100%!

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    • Snoid says:

      Im your Huckleberry….. teddy….

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      • Ted Slanders says:


        With your asinine statement, I am assuming that you would also SHOOT TO KILL the little girl in question? If so, what kind of a gun would you use? Would you go for the quick kill, or a slow kill so this innocent immigrant girl would suffer even more because she had the audacity to run from a violent country?

        I can’t believe that CCN is so full of NON CHRISTIANS like you!

        Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute.” (Psalm 82:3)

        “Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed.” (Proverbs 19:17)

        Jesus said: “Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves. Protect the rights of all who are helpless.” ( Proverbs 31:8)

        “For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I COMMAND YOU, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’ (Deuteronomy 15:11)

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        • Snoid says:

          But Ted, I go to church every Sunday Ted, I dont judge anybody really, everyone suck equally ;). Besides are you judging me for what you think is a non Christian CCN poster??? Now Ted, really, Jesus says not to judge others. Lest not forget you live in Satan Central Ted, just like me the wife and dogs. The land of Liberals, queers, murders,law breakers,Homophobes, Republicans, tea party folk, haters, bigots, crooks, wetbacks, and hypocrite Christians who talk big, make millions, have more material things than ever imagines (what would Jesus say to this?) living in their Million dollar homes (“blessed” is the word used) and sitting back judging others like you just judged me.

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          • Ted Slanders says:


            Once again, I am sorrowful to see another “spoon fed pseudo-christian” that has swallowed the talking points of their division of Christianity.

            Jesus most certainly says to judge others, to wit; remember the Lord Jesus Christ commanded, “Judge righteous judgment” (John 7:24). He told a man, “Thou hast rightly judged” (Luke 7:43), and the most important judging verse is when Jesus told others; “Why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?” (Luke 12:57).

            Snoid, you judge things everyday relative to what is happening around you, and this includes others of our Hebrew God’s creation. For comic relief, tell a jury of your peers in a court room setting not to judge! Get it? Sure you do.

            I would be remiss if I didn’t mention the fact that you bypassed the question of whether you would shoot dead the innocent immigrant girl in question. If it’s too embarrassing to even contemplate this situation after you allegedly being my “huckleberry,” on this topic, I fully understand.

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