The threat to national security is real

December 12, 2015

national-securityOPINION by OTIS PAGE

Given the controversy introduced by Donald Trump on the Muslim question, what should be done? The threat to our national security is real.

First, in the interest of national security, any Muslim immigrant should swear absolute dedication to the Constitution and laws of the United States of America and swear they will not follow the Koran’s teaching on the war against nonbelievers.

Second, as applied to all Muslim citizens of the USA, the fact must be clearly established that Sharia Islamic law is subordinated to the Constitution and laws of the United States where religious intolerance is condemned and the free practice of religious diversity is condoned.

“Political correctness” obscures the truth regarding the Muslim question.

This avoids the real issue of Islam’s fundamental belligerency against nonbelievers — Christians, Jews, and secularist, etc. For Muslims, the spiritual possession and religious dedication is deep and profound promising heavenly rewards for destroying nonbelievers by fanatical Imams and Mullahs of the Islamic faith.

As a highly regarded Minister has proclaimed, who has a Christian ministry among Muslims in Albania: “Like many so called Christians who avoid the true teachings of Christ, some Muslims turn their cheek on the Muslim teachings.”

But the difference here is the fact that the Islam fanatic’s call to kill and murder nonbelievers is endowed in their scripture — the Islamic Koran – where it is not in the Christian Bible.

Consequently, under the guidance of a fanatical Mullah, an Islamic mosque’s member may yield to the call to massacre innocent nonbelievers. Mullah inspired suicide bombers and assassins — some who have been women — have done this in Israel, in many places in the Mideast, and it has occurred here in the United States. As recently exemplified in the San Bernardino massacre. Each suicide bomber and assassin are promised their reward in paradise for their resolve.

To call a Muslim radicalized is to ignore the religious propensity of Islam, as founded in the sacred Koran and Sharia Islamic law, that unambiguously specifies a war against infidels — one who does not believe in the teachings in the Koran.

“Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, and seize them, Beleaguer them and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war…” (Qur’an 9:5)

A Muslim — whether described as being moderate or radical — must reject this teaching to be considered peaceful and loving by Judeo/Christian and secular standards.

Here is the existential reality of the Islamic faith: A true Muslim led by a fanatical Mullah is susceptible to the teaching of the Koran to “fight and kill disbelievers.” Muslims following these teaching are not “radicalized,” they are strict followers adhering to their religious teachings.

In conclusion, it is not an act of Islamophobia to cite the horrific deeds against Israel, in the Mideast and here in the United States — 9/11, etc and now in San Bernardino.

While professing to be loving and peaceful — Muslims are caught in the dual lie of first denying Mohammad’s instruction to kill nonbelievers while, second, coincidentally lying to non Muslims professing “love and peace” to those they wish to appease while being religiously justified to destroy them. For they are caught in a fatal contradiction. This is the inherent hypocrisy and false claim of the prevalent Islamic religion today.

Otis Page is a concerned citizen of Arroyo Grande.

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Respectfully, JImF, I ask you to consider the number that will be killed because of the Islam teaching that condemns those whose who do not believe as they do?

Islam is burled in its theocracy that emphatically insists those who don’t not believe in Islam should die.

Rebut this JimF – or surrender to the lie.

Huh? I thought the ME was mostly secular and relatively progressive under the ottoman empire? The empire lasted 100s of years — despite having sizable populations of jews, christians, and muslims all living together. The radicalism from the crusade years became nonexistent during this time for ALL of the religious denominations living together. What was it that changed since over the last 100 years that would revive animosity? I think you know — follow the $.

Otis – i just found this:

This muslim cleric/”priest” contends that most/all of the instances of violence listed in the quran were applied to a particular enemy at a specific time in the past, and were not meant to be applied in perpetuity to any or all future conflicts. Where our bible says babylonian, philippian, roman, etc, the quran just calls them infidels or non-believers.

Of course he also goes on to point out where the quran tells adherents never to use coercion or violence to convert others, and a bunch of other stuff.

The page is a short read and adds a little depth to our debate.

Otis- but how many hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians have we killed in the ME — or the literal millions of civilians who have died since western powers carved up the ME via Sykes Picot following WW1. How many democracies have we overthrown? How many merciless dictators have we installed and financially supported? How many millions of refugees have been displaced?

The TV networks you get your info from scream murder, but it is we who have been laying siege to their homeland for almost 100 years. Under those conditions any religious doctrine will be perverted to justify conflict

btw, even high school history books will till you that the reason the west went in and carved up the ME in 1916 was for control of their oil.

Otis Page,

Tell us you were joking about this statement, right?

“A Muslim — whether described as being moderate or radical — must reject this teaching to be considered peaceful and loving by Judeo/Christian and secular standards.”

I could give you a “plethora” of passages and narratives within the Judeo-Christian bible that would eliminate your claim above post haste. For now, the ones listed below will suffice.

All three of the major religions that are still with us today, and that were created in the Bronze and Iron Age, had their distinctly different Gods that all fall into a pattern, and that is to kill any disbelievers of “their” particular doctrine.

Allah says to kill disbelievers of Islam in many passages in the Qur’an, one of which; “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.” (‘Qur’an 9:5)

Jesus says to kill disbelievers of his rule: “But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.” (Luke 19:27) Parable or not, this passage is stated and attributed to Jesus, period.

If one believes Jesus is God incarnate, then His inspired words stated, to wit: “If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, BUT KILL HIM. Your hand shall be the first raised to SLAY HIM; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall STONE HIM TO DEATH, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)

Yahweh says to kill disbelievers of Judaism: “All who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.” (2 Chronicles 15:13)

It’s comical to wonder why they’re so many killings related to the religious beliefs stated herein as shown in the present day and throughout history, whereas the followers of said beliefs are just following their version of God’s commands.

Respecfully, Ben Daho, — how do youu refute this:

The Dictionary of Islam defines Jihad as “A religious war with those who are unbelievers in the mission of Muhammad.

This is what makes the Quran’s verses of violence so dangerous. They are given the weight of divine command.

While Muslim terrorists take them as literally as anything else in their holy book, and understand that Islam is incomplete without Jihad, There is very little else that they can point to as proof that theirs is a peaceful, tolerant religion.

From the Hadith: the collections quoting what the prophet Muhammad said verbatim on any matter

Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”

Bukhari (52:256) – The Prophet… was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, “They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans).” In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy. This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.

Muslim (20:4645) – “…He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa’id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!”

Muslim (20:4696) – “the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: ‘One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihad died the death of a hypocrite.’”

Gee, wonder why?

II. More than 1000 US Bases and/or Military Installations

The main sources of information on these military installations (e.g. C. Johnson, the NATO Watch Committee, the International Network for the Abolition of Foreign Military Bases) reveal that the US operates and/or controls between 700 and 800 military bases Worldwide.

In this regard, Hugh d’Andrade and Bob Wing’s 2002 Map 1 entitled “U.S. Military Troops and Bases around the World, The Cost of ‘Permanent War’”, confirms the presence of US military personnel in 156 countries.

The US Military has bases in 63 countries. Brand new military bases have been built since September 11, 2001 in seven countries.

In total, there are 255,065 US military personnel deployed Worldwide.

These facilities include a total of 845,441 different buildings and equipments. The underlying land surface is of the order of 30 million acres. According to Gelman, who examined 2005 official Pentagon data, the US is thought to own a total of 737 bases in foreign lands. Adding to the bases inside U.S. territory, the total land area occupied by US military bases domestically within the US and internationally is of the order of 2,202,735 hectares, which makes the Pentagon one of the largest landowners worldwide (Gelman, J., 2007).

Map 1. U.S. Military Troops and Bases around the World. The Cost of «Permanent War» and Some Comparative Data


Isn’t it Amazing that no one admits to watching Fox News, yet 99% of republicans arrive at the exact same false conclusion and Fox News claims it has the largest viewership making IT the Mainstream media.

Bill Warner, PhD: Jihad vs Crusades

Be afraid, be very very afraid.. The republicans are here to save us from the possibility of death by Muslim. Meanwhile:

Its interesting that the media clearly swings left, is pro Obama admin, and the majority of the stories use the terms Islamophobia, racism and hatred in America. However, on a daily basis the media is clearly telling us just how incompetent our government is.This comes in news and findings that reveals further information about the two in the SB massacre. She had been on social media for years endorsing radical Islam and Isis. She was here on a expired temporary visa, both were regulars at a firing range practicing what would later be a mass murder, the money trail, the connections to others of like minds. They both were known radicals, pro terrorist, anti American, soon to be murderers and yet for years hid under our governments radar with no questioning of their practices. There is more as we have not heard all the details and yet we can reasonably ask what the hell went wrong? Folks don’t like our open borders, it is any wonder why? Will the Mexican Cartell start the killings here eventually and be protected under Government incompetence and PC’ness?

I remember what I believe to be the first of the Die hard series where Bruce Willis was sent out onto the street in a Black neighborhood in his undies with signs on either side of him that read “I hate NXXXXXS” I laughed thinking maybe if the terrorists wore shirts that said I will kill Americans maybe the Gov could find them. Unlikely though as our PC candyass culture would have you arrested for making false allegations and profiling.