The threat to national security is real

December 12, 2015

national-securityOPINION by OTIS PAGE

Given the controversy introduced by Donald Trump on the Muslim question, what should be done? The threat to our national security is real.

First, in the interest of national security, any Muslim immigrant should swear absolute dedication to the Constitution and laws of the United States of America and swear they will not follow the Koran’s teaching on the war against nonbelievers.

Second, as applied to all Muslim citizens of the USA, the fact must be clearly established that Sharia Islamic law is subordinated to the Constitution and laws of the United States where religious intolerance is condemned and the free practice of religious diversity is condoned.

“Political correctness” obscures the truth regarding the Muslim question.

This avoids the real issue of Islam’s fundamental belligerency against nonbelievers — Christians, Jews, and secularist, etc. For Muslims, the spiritual possession and religious dedication is deep and profound promising heavenly rewards for destroying nonbelievers by fanatical Imams and Mullahs of the Islamic faith.

As a highly regarded Minister has proclaimed, who has a Christian ministry among Muslims in Albania: “Like many so called Christians who avoid the true teachings of Christ, some Muslims turn their cheek on the Muslim teachings.”

But the difference here is the fact that the Islam fanatic’s call to kill and murder nonbelievers is endowed in their scripture — the Islamic Koran – where it is not in the Christian Bible.

Consequently, under the guidance of a fanatical Mullah, an Islamic mosque’s member may yield to the call to massacre innocent nonbelievers. Mullah inspired suicide bombers and assassins — some who have been women — have done this in Israel, in many places in the Mideast, and it has occurred here in the United States. As recently exemplified in the San Bernardino massacre. Each suicide bomber and assassin are promised their reward in paradise for their resolve.

To call a Muslim radicalized is to ignore the religious propensity of Islam, as founded in the sacred Koran and Sharia Islamic law, that unambiguously specifies a war against infidels — one who does not believe in the teachings in the Koran.

“Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, and seize them, Beleaguer them and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war…” (Qur’an 9:5)

A Muslim — whether described as being moderate or radical — must reject this teaching to be considered peaceful and loving by Judeo/Christian and secular standards.

Here is the existential reality of the Islamic faith: A true Muslim led by a fanatical Mullah is susceptible to the teaching of the Koran to “fight and kill disbelievers.” Muslims following these teaching are not “radicalized,” they are strict followers adhering to their religious teachings.

In conclusion, it is not an act of Islamophobia to cite the horrific deeds against Israel, in the Mideast and here in the United States — 9/11, etc and now in San Bernardino.

While professing to be loving and peaceful — Muslims are caught in the dual lie of first denying Mohammad’s instruction to kill nonbelievers while, second, coincidentally lying to non Muslims professing “love and peace” to those they wish to appease while being religiously justified to destroy them. For they are caught in a fatal contradiction. This is the inherent hypocrisy and false claim of the prevalent Islamic religion today.

Otis Page is a concerned citizen of Arroyo Grande.


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Ted Slanders

Otis,


How embarrassing that you’re now calling our God Yahweh a LIAR too! When do you stop paving your way to the sulfur lakes of Hell?!


“Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations.” (Deuteronomy 7:9)


“Be ye mindful always of his covenant; the word which he commanded to a thousand generations … an everlasting covenant.” (1 Chronicles 16:15)


“It shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations.” (Leviticus 23: 14, 21, 31)


I ask you, has a thousand generations passed yet relative to the writing of these godly inspired passages, and do you understand the biblical term “everlasting?” Huh? AGAIN, we’re to follow the Mosaic laws as EXPLICITLY SHOWN! When does your outright blatant ignorance stop?


ONCE AGAIN, Jesus pronounces that the fate of His followers, the Hebrews, rests on their attitude toward and the treatment of God’s Mosaic Laws. “Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments (613 Mosaic Laws), and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 5:19). Do you want to argue with what Jesus just stated?


ALL YOU ARE DOING IS TO CONTINUALLY CONFIRM THAT THE BIBLE CONTRADICTS ITSELF! We Christians have enough of a hard time dealing with certain biblical doctrine, we don’t need any more, okay?!


To save any further embarrassment to your ignorance of the bible, I would suggest that you remain silent from here on out, agreed? Thank you. WHEW!


Otis

Regarding the Mosaic Law as fuffilled by Faith in Jesus Christ:


John 1:17 For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ. Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.


5 For Moses writes that the man who practices the righteousness which is based on law shall live by that righteousness. 6 But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: “DO NOT SAY IN YOUR HEART, ‘WHO WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN?’ (that is, to bring Christ down), 7 or ‘WHO WILL DESCEND INTO THE ABYSS?’ (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).” 8 But what does it say? “THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART”—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, 9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.


Otis

Good bye Ted Slanders. You appear to me to be absorbed in your own judgments. Given you are happy there, so be it. At this risk of being unkind, you provoke me to conclude the pharisees would be pleased with your self-righteousness.


James 4:11-12 “Do not speak against one another, brethren. He who speaks against a brother, or judges his brother, speaks against the law, and judges the law; but if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law, but a judge of it. There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and destroy; but who are you who judge your neighbor?”


I assume Mses would agree with James?


Again. I wish that you have peace and happiness — Merry Christmas.


Otis

Again, most respectfulyTed Slanders. I do not believe as you do the Mosaic law is controlling in my life as a Christian. But if this is your belief have at it.


Returning to the issue at hand on the Muslim issue, I assume you understand the Koran is replete with references to Christ, Mary and the Holy Spirit! It may serve a moderate Muslim well to turn to the Koran’s depiction of Jesus and His message that God is light, spirit and love — a message that condemns the Koran’s excesses against non believers.


Since you are a follower of the Mosaic decrees, I further assume you understand that Islam honors Moses and the book of Genesis. If so, do you further understand that Islam ignores the remarkable “beginning of it all” teaching in Genesis 17:18-21?:


“And Abraham said to God, ‘Oh that Ishmael might live before Thee!’ But God said, ‘No, but Sarah your wife will bear you a son, and you shall call his name Isaac; and I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. And as for Ishmael, I have heard you; behold, I will bless him, and make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly. He shall become the father of twelve princes, and I will make him a great nation. But My covenant I will establish with Isaac whom Sarah will bear to you at this season next year.’”


It is established in Matthew 1:1-17 that Jesus Christ is of the line though Isaac.

It is commemorative at this Christmas season to acknowledge that these verses (1:1-17) introduce the record on the birth of Jesus Christ in verses 18-25, whose’ birth we celebrate each Christmas season while Mohammad came through the line of Ishmael.


What is the explanation by Islamic “theologians” regarding this historic Scripture, particularly their ignorance of Genesis 17:18-21? They say Mohammad did not acknowledge these verses in Genesis even though these verses existed thousands of years before Mohammad!


But here is the existential reality of the Islamic faith: A true Muslim will never reject the teaching of the Koran to “fight and kill disbelievers”. I do not believe your assertion is correct that “If Jesus is considered God incarnate, then He is held culpable for the Old Testament killings that He did Himself, or commanded others to do.”


Finally, please don’t pray for me. I am satisfied God is my judge.


Ted Slanders

Otis,


You have lived with misinformation for so long, that you can’t see or accept bible FACT that I have presented to rid you of your biblical ignorance regarding that even Jesus says to follow the Old Testament Mosaic laws. Its like you purporting to know more than Jesus, isn’t that funny? NOT!


You’ll pay dearly upon Judgment Day for your misdeeds, therefore, you’re right in the fact that your beyond any prayer saving because you slap Jesus right in the face by calling Him a liar!


If I can be frank, and you still be Otis, you are so WRONG on so many accounts within the bible that it’s hard to keep track of them. I have seen many a Christian like you, of which are called “Burger King Christians,” where you want your bible your way, and not Yahweh’s way!


Otis, take your blinders off and become a TRUE Christian, and leave your pseudo-christian status!


Otis

Respectfully kettle, is Tony Blair a xenophobiac?


Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair in his speech at the Library of Congress when asked, why he speaks about Islamist terrorism and extremism said, “Because that’s what it is.”


Blair said. “Clerics who proclaim that non-believers and apostates must be killed or call for jihad against Jews have Twitter followings running into millions. … The ideology has deep roots. We have to reach right the way down and uproot it.”


“We have to explain to our citizens and those coming in why our values and our way of life matter to us, and why we will defend them to the last,” said Blair. “We must recover our own confidence in our own belief system.”


“A continued failure to recognize the scale of the challenge and to construct the means necessary to meet it, will result in terrorist attacks potentially worse than those in Paris, producing a backlash, which then stigmatizes the majority of decent, law-abiding Muslims,” he said.


“Force alone will not prevail—the Islamist ideology also has to be confronted,” Blair added.


Originally published in Forbes.


Otis

Again, most respectfully, Ted Slanders. As an imperfect Christian, I do not agree with your your confession that “If we’re going to be Christians, we have to read ALL of the bible, and when doing so, the Old Testament laws are to be followed today.”


Christ fulfilled the law (Matt 5:17) and He certainly did not endorse murder and killing. For me, if there is one law that pertains to Christian belief I believe it is stated in Romans 8:1,2.


I respect your choice to believe as you do. And with that please consider my wishing you a very happy and Merry Christmas


Ted Slanders

Otis,


You’re having a hard time dealing with the FACT that Jesus stated we’re to follow the Old Testament laws today, for that, I am sorry for you. What part of this Jesus statement don’t you understand? “For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled” (Matthew 5:18). Again, with these words, Jesus likened the continuance of the Mosaic Laws of the Old Testament to the permanence of heaven and earth, with the “fullfillment” being His Second Coming that is 2011 years to date and counting. Again, has heaven and earth passed away and destroyed? No, it has not, therefore we’re to follow ALL 613 Mosaic laws.


Jesus didn’t endorese murder? If Jesus is considered God incarnate, then He is held culpable for the Old Testament killings that He did Himself, or commanded others to do. If Jesus is only considered the Son of Yahweh, then we have to accept that His father was a brutal serial killer in the Old Testament. This is just plain and simple Christian math that I have tried to accept and still fight the premise that our Yahweh is ever loving and forgiving.


Besides, Jesus pronounces that the fate of His followers, the Hebrews, since He is the King of the Jews only (Matthew 27:37), rests on their attitude toward and the treatment of God’s Mosaic Laws. “Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments (613 Mosaic Laws), and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 5:19). Do you want to argue with what Jesus just stated in that you’re to follow the 613 Mosaic Laws after He stated: “Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.” (Matthew 24:35)


There’re other narratives within the bible that state with specificity that we’re to follow the Mosaic laws, but the ones listed herein should suffice. I will pray for you in your future understanding relative to the biblical FACT that all Christians are to follow the Mosaic Laws in our Hebrew Old Testament, and where you quit taking the position that you know more than Yahweh/Jesus when positing that you don’t, total Blaspheme!


Otis

Nonsense, kettle, — it is not an issue of Xenophobia. Go tell that to the families that lost loved ones in San Bardonino or those neatly 3,000 who lost love ones on 9/11. A religion that advocates the murder and killing of those that emphatically advocates such deeds should be held accountable. Muslims who reject the teachings of the Koran on such matters embrace a worthy cause to set matters straight — if they dare. Otherwise they harbor the curse that the Koran advocates.


kettle

Yes Otis it is xenophobia, your deflecting and trying to change the subject is part of the problem.


Otis says:”Muslims should swear ” Just like the red scare, I am not a member of the _______


Just like the days of Joe McCarthy, swear a oath (on what book?) be put on a list, be watched.


Christians who reject the teachings of the Bible on such matters embrace a worthy cause to set matters straight — if they dare.


Fixed it for you.


Double standards Suck, xenophobia sucks.


Otis

Again, respectfully Ted Sanders, Here is the issue today: Muslims should swear that they will not follow the Koran’s teaching on the war against nonbelievers, that Sharia Islamic law is subordinated to the Constitution and laws of the United States.


It is a fact that many Christians who avoid the true teachings of Christ are like some Muslims that turn their cheek on the Muslim teachings. But the fact is the Islamic fanatic’s call to kill and murder nonbelievers is specified in the Koran (Qur’an), the Islamic Bible. It is not in the Christian New Testament.


kettle

So you want loyalty oaths from Muslims but not others? That is xenophobic.


Next someone will want a record or list that a “person” swore this “oath”, perhaps a government database?.


For the ones who don’t have the list they will need a signal that “person” took the “oath”, perhaps a symbol attached to the person like WW2.

/sarcasm


Wow Otis, that is the most xenophobic and thinly veiled racist comment I have seen this week.


Xenophobia and racism only makes things worse.


This is why we can not have nice things.


Ted Slanders

Otis,


If a Muslim wants to enter the United States for a safe-haven, they will say whatever it takes to allow this to happen, Jihadist or not. It’s just pure human nature, so your proposition falls flat on it’s face.


You’re absolutely correct when you stated that many Christians don’t follow ALL of the teachings of Jesus the Christ. Why is that? Could it be, as only one example, that Jesus condoned the killing of children that cursed their parents?


Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. Jesus defends Himself by attacking them in a quid pro quo stance for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment; “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’ and anyone who curses his father or mother MUST BE PUT TO DEATH. (Matthew 15: 3-4).


The “command” that Jesus was referring too was when Moses said: “Honor your father and mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.” (Exodus 21:17)


Again, the old ruse of “it’s not in the New Testament,” therefore it doesn’t apply to Christians today is a total misnomer as I’ve told you before in this thread. By stating this perceived notion, the Christian admits that Yahweh commanded these killing laws in the past. Do you want an omniscient God (1 John 3:20), and what that entails, knowing that He was going to change His mind in the future with a New Testament, when the bible states that He doesn’t change His mind? (Malachi 3:6; James 1:17)


JESUS STATED: “For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled” (Matthew 5:18). With these words, Jesus likened the continuance of the Mosaic Laws of the Old Testament to the permanence of heaven and earth and His return like Peter states below.


“ But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed.” (2 Peter 3:10)


Has heaven or the earth passed away or disappeared yet as Jesus stated in Matthew 27:37, and as Peter said relative to Jesus’ return? No it has not! Therefore, as Jesus stated, the true Christian is to follow every jot and tittle of the 613 commanded laws of the Old Testament until heaven and earth does pass away!


If we’re going to be Christians, we have to read ALL of the bible, and when doing so, the Old Testament laws are to be followed today. In doing so, the axioms of the Christian faith and bible is no different than the Muslims and their Qur’an relative to killing non-believers of said faiths as explicitly shown in Deuteronomy 13:7-12.


Otis

Respectfully, ed Slanders, and I mean this most respectfully: The Islamic faith insists those who do not believe in Islam will be “put to the sword”!


Given this allegation, I believe the facts are clearly established thatM uslims believe the Sharia Islamic law, — my religion and allt religions — are subordinated to Sharia law and not the Constitution and laws of the — United State — where religious intolerance is condemned and the free practice of religious diversity is condoned”.


Am I wrong?


Ted Slanders

Otis,


You’re wrong in the way that your faith also states that anyone that doesn’t believe in Christianity should be put to death as well, but you don’t follow this inspired command by your Hebrew God named Yahweh. You have yet to enlighten us on the reason why? The irony is that if Christians followed ALL of the godly inspired bible, there wouldn’t be enough courts and prisons in the United States to house them subsequent to their convictions.


Conversely, the comedic spin on this notion is that Muslims that actually follow ALL of Allah’s inspired words within the Qur’an, including the Jihadist commands to kill the infidels, are called “extremists.” Whereas, the Muslims that don’t follow ALL of Allah’s direct words are called peaceful! What’s wrong with this picture?


It deduces to the fact that the misnomer of extreme Muslims are more faithful to their faith than the peaceful Muslims that don’t follow ALL of Allah’s direct commands, therefore, they are cultural Muslims in name only.


“Officer, I didn’t like that part of the the DMV law because it was disturbing and inconvenient for me, therefore I didn’t follow it, so why are you giving me a ticket?” Understand?