Brennler, Luna won’t run again

August 1, 2008

By KAREN VELIE

Atascadero Mayor Mike Brennler won’t seek a second term on the Atascadero City Council because of health concerns.

And council member George Luna said he will also retire from the council

Relatively unknown before his first attempt at public office, Brennler ran for a two-year seat promising to address local corruption. With three seats up for grabs in the 2006 election, he tallied the highest percentage of votes.

“From day one I’ve always known I was in a position, if I was compromising my health or the welfare of my family, I would have to leave the public arena,” Brennler said. “Politics is an ugly business.”

During his tenure, Luna voted to make development pay for itself and for downtown redevelopment. He approved the Atascadero Road Plan, and was involved in balancing the city’s budget and avoiding municipal layoffs in the early 1990s. Luna has been a majority favorite during the past decade.

How might these changes affect Atascadero? Let’s recap the past few years:

April 2006: The Rottman Group announced plans to build a super Wal-Mart at the corner of El Camino Real and Del Rio Road;

May 2006: City officials denied prior knowledge of negotiations with the box-store giant;

June 2006: Opponents and proponents of Wal-Mart began a battle that still rages today;

July 2006: E-mails leaked to the media reveal city officials and staffs were negotiating with the retail giant in 2005;

November 2006: Newcomers Brennler and Ellen Beraud, along with incumbent Tom O’Malley, won seats on the council. Advocating transparency in government and reform, Brennler and Beraud immediately encountered a volatile opposition;

January 2007: Prompted by Brennler and Beraud, the council voted to televise council meetings. In prior years, Luna’s motions to televise gatherings were always unsuccessful;

June 2007: Brennler asked law enforcement to investigate whether developer Kelly Gearhart committed fraud in not paying development fees. Gearhart is currently a defendant in a lawsuit alleging he bilked investors out of money;

February 2008: City Attorney Brian Pierik informed Brennler the FBI is investigating the city. The ongoing FBI investigation is said by sources to be focusing on possible under-the-table payoffs to, or overly-cozy relationships between, upper level city management. The probe reportedly includes both elected and non-elected officials and some private individuals;

May 2008: At a “public trust and campaign reform” workshop, O’Malley challenged Brennler to handle a dispute regarding council procedures “out in the parking lot.” Council members and a few citizens engaged in frequent heated disputes ranging from arguments about Wal-Mart, to battles over council decorum.

Three seats will be open in the November election.

Tags:, Atascadero, brennler, election, Luna


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Stefan

By: Anonymous on 8/10/08

Clay is a liar just like O'Malley. In the Atascadero News he is quoted: “I think it was unfortunate that the City Council didn’t follow Councilman Tom O’Malley’s and my lead to process Wal-Mart’s proposed project on Nov. 23, 2007, for a superstore at Del Rio,” he said in a written statement. “Had the council moved the superstore forward at that time we would be near the end of the EIR process. There would be a light at the end of the tunnel for reversing our city’s financial woes.” The vote was 4-1 not to proceed with the application and his vote was one of the 4. In March, Walmart came back with a proposal that was within the 150 square foot mandated by the General Plan and the Council voted 4-1 (Beraud against)to proceed with the application. It is 6 months later and WalMart is finally getting around to choosing someone to do the EIR. It is Jerry's fantasy that the EIR would done in 8 months. What an idiot! At least, Bob Kelly knows and says that it will take 2 years just to get the EIR. Then the public hearings, decision, referendum, etc. begins.

By: Anonymous on 8/10/08

Another developer in our midst, imagine that, oh maybe you haven’t heard about the colony lot Pam is in the process of splitting into several lots?

By: Anonymous on 8/10/08

I just heard the news. Horay and thanks Pam. Pam will win because I bet she will get George and Mikes endorsements.

By: Anonymous on 8/10/08

There is a candidate that we don't know much about yet that has taken out paperwork. I'll be voting for Pam but don't consider myself stuck with Fonzi yet. I think I would pick Len over Fonzi.

By: Anonymous on 8/10/08

If I hadn't seen and heard all the disruption and back scratching between Al Fonzi and the ABA group I would have voted for Roberta. She seems very capable. If another candidate like Pam doesn't step up I'll be voting for Pam and Roberta.

By: Anonymous on 8/10/08

You should have Pam on your show ASAP. Wait until you and the public see how intelligent, capable and impressive she is. She blows people away with her abilities and understanding of our city and government problems.

By: Anonymous on 8/10/08

Considering the attacks that Al Fonzi has launched against Mike Brennler I think its fair to say that Roberta Fonzi is in with the Good Ole Boys and hence, shares the same mentality.

By: Anonymous on 8/10/08

WOW,

Pamela Heatherington is running for City Council. That's great news. what a breath of fresh air this is going to be. No conflicts, no BS, just an honest candidate.

By: Anonymous on 8/10/08

You call yourself insider as if you are so knowledgeable. Heathering is a genius when it comes to "being in the know". You couldn't hold a candel to her. Good Luck with the candidate forums Mr. insider. You lose.

By: Anonymous on 8/10/08

Correction: Last two years, not to years

By: Anonymous on 8/10/08

Yes Heatherington in a nobrainer she has no brain in her. She votes no on everything and I mean everything. If you like whats been going on for the last to years she's you're lacky thats for sure.

By: Anonymous on 8/10/08

Thanks.. I'm so pleased that your running for City Council. You have made my day.

Cindy Sasur

By: Anonymous on 8/10/08

Heatherington is willing to fight for you! For those of you who don't know your planning Commissioners, Fonzi and Heatherington are both PC. The difference is that Fonzi is aligned with the ABA group(Ray Buban, Mike Jackson, Cheryl Burbach, Suzie Anderson and Al Fonzi) and won't be subject to all the name calling, attacks and disruption that they cause in an attempt to regain Good Ole Boy controls. The up side is that Heatherington is willing to do it, more capable than all other candidates and knows full well what she will be dealing with.


Stefan

By: Anonymous on 8/10/08

If I have to make a choice between Kelley and Clay I'll pick Kelley. If I have to chose between Fonzi and Kelle I'll pick Fonzi. I don't plan on picking the New Yorker but it would be funny to watch Len and O'Malley both attempt to "outtalk" each other at CC meetings! Heartherington is a nobrainer. She's In.

By: Anonymous on 8/10/08

YIPPIE,

Pam Heatherington has taken out paperwork. There is a savior afterall. Whoelse woill step up?

By: Anonymous on 8/10/08

Oh my Gosh!


I knew Bob Kelly was dirty but I had no idea to what degree. You are obviously someone in the know.


Atascadero politics is unbelievable and those who currently running are a bunch of smucks.


The only two incumbants worth a hoot have decided not to run and we are left to choose from the bottom of the realtors and chamber's barrel.


Clay, Fonzi, Kelly? If it didn't have such tragic consequences it would be great comedy.


God save Atascadero!

By: Anonymous on 8/10/08

To anonymous,baker,say baker,insider, and editors say, or should I just say Bob Kelley! Thats right Bob Kelley or should we say candidate Kelley. Have you ever heard the saying " if you live in a glass house you should'nt throw stones " well I'm throwing boulders, here goes


1. In 1995 Bob kelley was convicted on eight counts of business and professions code violations and had his contractors license revoked. license # 495532


count one : 7109a departed from trade standards


count two: 7109b departed from plans and specifications


count three: 7113 exceeded contract amount


count four: 7115 failed to comply with contractors license law


count five: 7083 failed to report license change


count six: 7097 other license was suspended


count seven: 7098 other license was revoked


count eight: 7121.5 qualifier prohibited against association


I guess you just might qualify as an expert in construction law since you have been convicted of violating almost all of them.


Second, you run a realty company out of your home which is not zoned light commercial, however I don't think the neighbors really mind since you have no business!


Third, you have bragged about flying in Gearhart's or should we say investor's jet and how you and he are best friends. He was your biggest supporter in your failed campaign ( my bad, both failed campaigns) and you rode his coat tails right to the cash register of jay miller.


This is joe dirt signing off with the pledge to throw more boulders in the near future, right bob !


Stefan

By: Anonymous on 8/8/08

Just when I thought there could be nothing worse than Ellen Bereau. Pam Heatherington is a walking disaster.

By: Anonymous on 8/8/08

While on the Planning Commission Beraud was adamant on voting no on the new Holiday Inn. Her reason was that the city would loose sales tax if a hotel was built. Ellen was reminded that the hotel produced bed tax. Her response was "what's the difference." Well the bed tax is a complete 10% that comes directly to the city.

So you think you might want to bring a hotel application to Mayor Beraud next year?

By: Anonymous on 8/8/08

Pam Heatherington has taken out papers for the city council candidacy.

Can you imagine her on the council along wit Mayor Beraud?

For starters they would have to close the Planning and Building Dept. because only an escapee from ASH would need their services.

By: Anonymous on 8/8/08

Beraud business freindly? says: "Berauds Voting Record:"


And don't forget the Veteran's Memorial which will bring in tourism. She was the the only CC member to vote NO.


And let's not forget the anti-business Shield Initiative – she was the only CC member to vote yes on it!


The only person I know of that votes NO more often than Beraud is Pam Heatherington on the Planning Commission.


By: Anonymous on 8/8/08

Berauds Voting Record:

1. 3-4-03:City zone change to allow mixed uses. Vote 5-1 Beraud NO.

2. 5-18-03:City ordinance to allow secondary housing. Vote 5-2 Beraud NO.

3.3-18-03:Mixed use commercial/multi family project on Morro Rd. Vote 6-1 Beraud NO.

4.4-15-03:City zone text amendment request from Main St. addressing first floor office space with an appearance review. Vote 5-1 Beraud NO.

5.3-16-04:Creekside project-master plan of development for 9 office buildings. Vote 5-1 Beraud NO.

6.9-21-04:Motion by O'Keefe to nominate Beraud as Vice Chairman of Planning Commission. Motion failed for lack of a second.

7.6-7-05:Master Plan of Development for 9 commercial buildings at Curbaril and Morro Rd. Vote 4-2 Beraud NO.

8.1-18-05:Lube-N-Go project on ECR. Vote 6-1 Beraud NO.

I think you can see the trend. I'll let you be the judge.

By: Anonymous on 8/8/08

Clay has to take some blame here.

He has backed the staff at every turn while the planning staff has run ruffshod over the applicants.

The CC and Wade never considered it important enough to look into the allegations. Even though it was common knowledge on the street that the planners would do everything they could to delay projects.

By: Anonymous on 8/8/08

What did Brennler and Bereau turn down. The WalMart. What did Brennler and Bereau approve creek setbacks. The reason they don't turn much down is cause nothing gets approved at planning commision. Why does nothing get approved because the few and the brave that take a project that have managed to get past the planners must deal with Brennler, Bereau, and Lunas henchmen that try to make a big deal out of everything they look at. Even the most common run of the mill time extension is turned into a water boarding session. So basically no one wants to submit anything anymore. Once again success in the eyes of Brennler and Bereau and thier henchmen. Oh I forgot unless you are Bereaus planning commisioner then you get extra road improvements that the rest of us go without for.


Stefan

By: Anonymous on 8/8/08

Atascadero not being business freindly has been in place for years, way before Brennler and Beraud were on the council. Although Beraud was a contributor to it when she was on the Planning Commission and that is well documented by her negative votes against new businesses.

The bottom line is that this atmosphere has been there for a long time, mostly during Clay, Luna and O'Malley. George was smart to leave because he was able to see the outcome of his deeds. Now it's time for the rest of them to go and be replaced by strong leaders.

By: Anonymous on 8/8/08

To Insider

We should not worry about the 50 million for the Rotunda. If the city does not have the money Tom Comar and the gang can have a big fund raiser, maybe a cake walk or two and contribute to the cause. The unions could even kcik in a few bucks here and there. If all else fails we now have the Phoenix Recovery Group to wrap things up should we get in a bind.

By: Anonymous on 8/8/08

The Trader Joe deal fell through when O'Malley was Mayor, so the reputation of Atascadero being anti-business is before Beraud and Brennler were on the council. The others are causalities of the economic depression.

By: Anonymous on 8/8/08

I am not Jackson,Buban, Burbach or anyone associated with the ABA. In other words I am not one of the usual suspects. I did not say tear down City Hall I said prepare a proper study of the financial implications of continuing on the path were on. What if it will cost 50 mil. to do the project and FEMA gives us 17 mil. (which there is no guarenty of) that still leaves 33 mil. for us to fund with the result being a building of very limited use. What if FEMA will give us 10 mil. for an alternative project and to demo the existing building and repace it with something that we can get any use we want from it is 12 mil. That would cost us 2 mil. and we would be left with a usefull structure. I'm not saying that is the way it is, what I'm saying is we don't know how it is. Lets stop working with blindfolds on. The building has a lot of history but if we can't do it we can't do it. The Architects we are paying 4 mil. plus are at a conflict of interest in providing the information we need at this time. If I have to here one more time how professional our completely unqualified staff is regarding this matter from the consultant who stands to make a small fortune I'll loose my lunch. We don't have anywhere near the money needed to fix that building from what I see if we spent every dime we have on it. If we continue to fund this project without a clear budget and a source of funding we are no better than the developers that have help participate in the hard money crisis locally. Please if you are in favor of continuing with this project instead of demonizing me for wanting to demo the building at least make a cogent argument of how we are going to fund it and how we get the funds in place before we start the project.

By: Anonymous on 8/8/08

It's the lack of a positive business atmosphere. Just look at all of the business's that have gone out of business. Atascadero Ford, Mitsibushi, failure to get Trader's Joe's, Colony Square and so on. They are all contribute to sales tax and they are gone.

Over the years Beraud's voting record on the Planning Commission was definetly negative towards business. It's the attitude that this city has had for YEARS. It must be changed by new leadership.

By: Anonymous on 8/8/08

If the drop in sales tax is the fault of Brennler, Beraud, Luna then besides WalMart (which according to Bob Kelly is 3 to 4 years away) what development projects were voted down. Oh, and WalMart is being voted on next Tuesday.

By: Anonymous on 8/8/08

Here are a few questions to consider.

1.Where does everyone think the 50 million will come from for the Rotunda Building ?

2. What in fact would we use the Rotunda Building for after we spent 50 million on it?

3. What makes those who back the Atascadero Shield think they have the right to say what products are to be sold in any particular store.

4. If they do would it be alright if we can review what kinds of service they provide or sell and monitor it, perhaps even vote on it the next election.

5. If the Printery is restored what would it be used for.


Stefan

By: Anonymous on 8/8/08

Mike Jackson is INSIDER???!!! I didn't believe he was educated enough or that eloquent, particularly judging by the time he addressed the CC about Wal-Mart and how if we happened to be cut off from all outside help due to a flood or fire, we could always pillage and plunder the Big Box Store for supplies. That HAD to be the most ridiculous statement I have ever encountered at a meeting. That even tops the elderly lady with her rantings at the council that she was older than them and therefore could be so very much more rude… My grandmother would roll in her grave with the disgrace of THAT one. Anyway, Mikey, gosh I just don't know what to say except you must have alot of time on your hands now, without all your financial bogus bulls**t!!! By the way, I'm on my lunchbreak. You remember those, you know, when you had a job…

By: Anonymous on 8/8/08

To Bob Kelly:


If you want telephone or face to face dialog with Insider just give Mike Jackson a call.


Bare in mind he has suggested tearing down the historic city hall and putting up a shell when he opens his garbage hole at the council meetings.


If you think about it …. This one really ain't so hard to figure out.

By: Anonymous on 8/8/08

My comments were directed at Bob Kelley. Brennler and Bereau have had two years and thier possitions have left the city in shambles. I was talking about winning an election and not being wishy washy with the public. You are right we know exactly where Brennler and Bereau stand which it makes it quite easy to oppose all they stand for. The irony is they are often cited for getting nothing done in the last two years when that is exactly what thier program is. So I guess they could say they have been quite successful in thier agenda.

By: Anonymous on 8/8/08

After the last election, the newly elected members along with George and Ursala and all of their extremists backers attacked Atascadero.

Instead of taking inventory of what was confronting the city and addressing the business climate, the erosion of the income needed to operate the city, they set out with their extreme agenda and look at the mess we are in.

If they would have taken care of the city first and been patient there is no telling what they could have taken from the citizens of Atascadero and the would have been happy!

The Rotunda building is done, put a fork in it and tear it down. It will cost the city less to build a replica than to rehad. Whether FEMA is involved or not.

Besides how arrogant and selfish are we to think that our needs for a building outway the needs of those that have lost all; their homes and lively hood in other areas of the country. FEMA givith and they can take-away. no gaurantees.

By: Anonymous on 8/8/08

To Insider: It's quite interesting that you state "pick positions and stick to them" when all you've done is tear Brennler and Bereau up for picking their positions and sticking to them, along with those that agreed with them. Do I detect some favoritism and a bit of reverse discrimination? Wow.

By: Anonymous on 8/8/08

Sorry Bob you know I can't do that. However if you want to point out specifically my errors I will be happy to address it with you here. If its about Gearhart it may be that you have been a long time freind and business aquaintance and are just very upset and disappointed in what you have heard to date. Thats an answer I can understand. To talk about what good he has done is not relevant at this point. The deal with you Jones, Gearhart and the planning dept. killed you last year. You need to get out front on this one. If its WalMart I don't want someone wishy washy on that. We all know your either for it or against it. Of course all environmental issues need to be handled and we need to get the best Super WalMart they can give us. You can still be for it or against it. Lastly or firstly I should say I want someone who will take the necessary steps to work within a balanced budget. That means when our income drops we need to cut our expenses. You still haven't said what you would do with the rotunda. I know you recognize it's expense will far exceed what we are being told but what would you do? It's nice you want to keep a open mind on everything but I'm not voting for someone who doesn't have some answers going in. This is a very public forum and if you want to get your message out this would be a great place to start. Don't loose this election because you don't have a message. Pick your possitions and stick to them and I think people will join you. We need solutions to todays problems not tomorrows.


Stefan

By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

You've made some comments regarding my appearance on the Congleton show and added your opinion and statements out of context. If you would like to hear it correctly my phone number is in the book give me a call and we can discuss it. I'll be waiting for your call who ever you are.I'm will to discuss it are you?


Bob Kelley

By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

To truthbeknown: says: "I have to disagree with you about Atascadero needing a "big picture" guy."


That's ok. Let's just agree to disagree. Whoever gets elected, and whatever method is used to turn things around, I'm ok with. Whatever the case, we need effective leadership, something that we unfortunatly don't have now, eh?


By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

Thankyou Truthbeknown


Like I said we need to stop deficit spending. When my income doesn't meet my expenses and I have to go into my retirement or savings I am deficit spending. Aparently George is a mathematician but not an economist. What would be wrong with holding on to our savings only spending it as absolutly needed and cutting our budget to a balanced condition? They are processing a tenth of the permits of years past, come on! If we need to have a reduction in services we need to adjust. It's unfortunate but we need to suck it up. These guys can't even come up with a guess thats within $500,000 that last one month. This is getting serious. This is our money. What if they had to send you a bill everytime they dug into that account? How long do you think that would last?

By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

smrtrthna5thgrader says: "Unfortunately, Insider, the City has had to spend so much time trying to fend off useless allegations, dealing with GOB's stonewalling, recall bulls**t and numerous other time consuming idiotic pathetic wastes of energy that there has been neither the needed time or energy to really attack the projects you have pointed out."


You're on the right track, but your insinuations are wrong.The city is back-upped because of allegations made by people like the keeper of this blog (specifically toxic soil at the new Community Center- proven wrong, BTW), because of people like Broadwater who make repeated requests for information so he can try to trash O'Malley or whoever else he puts in his sights that particular CC meeting, because of bullyish behavior by Brennler. Think about how much time was wasted during a recent CC meeting discussing a citizen "smirking."


And how about all the time and energy wasted on Creek Setbacks, Campaign Reform, and all the other non-fiscal related subjects that have been on the agenda since Luna, Beraud, and Brennler have had the majority vote. NOTHING has been accomplished the last two years!


We need candidates that will stop pushing their personal agendas and get on with the real business of Atascadero.


Stefan

By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

not insider says: "To insider:

Most of this is being done. And there is no deficit spending. Using a rainy day fund to pay for necessities in a market downturn is what a rainy day fund is for."


Gee, that sounds like a parroting statement from Luna!


From: http://www.investorwords.com/1373/deficit_spendin


deficit spending

Definition


The amount by which a government, company, or individual's spending exceeds its income over a particular period of time. also called deficit or called budget deficit. opposite of budget surplus.


By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

Unfortunately, Insider, the City has had to spend so much time trying to fend off useless allegations, dealing with GOB's stonewalling, recall bulls**t and numerous other time consuming idiotic pathetic wastes of energy that there has been neither the needed time or energy to really attack the projects you have pointed out. It would probably have been a lot less frentic, if, for some reason, certain people hadn't decided that they would disrupt everything and throw their agenda in everyone's face. Yes, I'm talking about Buban (the most obnoxious soul), Jackson (the follower), Cheryl B. (the last name has the same letter as the name she elicits) and Susie A. (who has been, by the way, very quiet since getting some bogus appointment ala T. O'Malley)!! Wow, let's see how much the new council will be able to accomplish if, "Heaven Forbid" you crybabies don't get your way again. I'm having deja vu.

By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

First they said we needed $500,000 of the rainy day money. Then they came back a month later and said oops we miscalculated we need $1,000,000 of that rainy day money. Must have started raining a little harder during that month. I would bet anything that if they took a hard look right now today they would need $1,500,000. Also they say each time they have $11,000,000 of rainy day never decreasing it for each time they use it. Also they are counting every dime we have over budget as rainy day. Well its pouring out and all they care is they don't have to lay someone off. Well I don't give a damn lay as many of them as you have to to get the budget balanced. You say they are doing all those things. Who is providing a real evaluation on the rotunda? Who is saying lets expedite WalMart? Who is getting the printery mess straightened out? Who is suggesting lowering development fees to jump start the local construction economy? When they are finishe using up that so called rainy day money it will be too late to take the steps to balance the budget. We need action now!

By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

has fallen and can't get up!

To: Atascadero needs CC Candidates


You got them: Fonzi, Kelly, Clay are all realtors or ex realtors. Just what a growing city needs –NOT. Atascadero is doomed.

By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

To insider:

Most of this is being done. And there is no deficit spending. Using a rainy day fund to pay for necessities in a market downturn is what a rainy day fund is for. You are truly an idiot and don't know anything about what is happening in Atascadero.

By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

This site is great. I would like to have you all on my show. contact me asap


Stefan

By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

not insider says: "To insider:

Most of this is being done. And there is no deficit spending. Using a rainy day fund to pay for necessities in a market downturn is what a rainy day fund is for."


Gee, that sounds like a parroting statement from Luna!


From: http://www.investorwords.com/1373/deficit_spendin


deficit spending

Definition


The amount by which a government, company, or individual's spending exceeds its income over a particular period of time. also called deficit or called budget deficit. opposite of budget surplus.


By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

Unfortunately, Insider, the City has had to spend so much time trying to fend off useless allegations, dealing with GOB's stonewalling, recall bulls**t and numerous other time consuming idiotic pathetic wastes of energy that there has been neither the needed time or energy to really attack the projects you have pointed out. It would probably have been a lot less frentic, if, for some reason, certain people hadn't decided that they would disrupt everything and throw their agenda in everyone's face. Yes, I'm talking about Buban (the most obnoxious soul), Jackson (the follower), Cheryl B. (the last name has the same letter as the name she elicits) and Susie A. (who has been, by the way, very quiet since getting some bogus appointment ala T. O'Malley)!! Wow, let's see how much the new council will be able to accomplish if, "Heaven Forbid" you crybabies don't get your way again. I'm having deja vu.

By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

First they said we needed $500,000 of the rainy day money. Then they came back a month later and said oops we miscalculated we need $1,000,000 of that rainy day money. Must have started raining a little harder during that month. I would bet anything that if they took a hard look right now today they would need $1,500,000. Also they say each time they have $11,000,000 of rainy day never decreasing it for each time they use it. Also they are counting every dime we have over budget as rainy day. Well its pouring out and all they care is they don't have to lay someone off. Well I don't give a damn lay as many of them as you have to to get the budget balanced. You say they are doing all those things. Who is providing a real evaluation on the rotunda? Who is saying lets expedite WalMart? Who is getting the printery mess straightened out? Who is suggesting lowering development fees to jump start the local construction economy? When they are finishe using up that so called rainy day money it will be too late to take the steps to balance the budget. We need action now!

By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

has fallen and can't get up!

To: Atascadero needs CC Candidates


You got them: Fonzi, Kelly, Clay are all realtors or ex realtors. Just what a growing city needs –NOT. Atascadero is doomed.

By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

To insider:

Most of this is being done. And there is no deficit spending. Using a rainy day fund to pay for necessities in a market downturn is what a rainy day fund is for. You are truly an idiot and don't know anything about what is happening in Atascadero.

By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

This site is great. I would like to have you all on my show. contact me asap


Stefan

By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

not insider says: "To insider:

Most of this is being done. And there is no deficit spending. Using a rainy day fund to pay for necessities in a market downturn is what a rainy day fund is for."


Gee, that sounds like a parroting statement from Luna!


From: http://www.investorwords.com/1373/deficit_spendin


deficit spending

Definition


The amount by which a government, company, or individual's spending exceeds its income over a particular period of time. also called deficit or called budget deficit. opposite of budget surplus.


By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

Unfortunately, Insider, the City has had to spend so much time trying to fend off useless allegations, dealing with GOB's stonewalling, recall bulls**t and numerous other time consuming idiotic pathetic wastes of energy that there has been neither the needed time or energy to really attack the projects you have pointed out. It would probably have been a lot less frentic, if, for some reason, certain people hadn't decided that they would disrupt everything and throw their agenda in everyone's face. Yes, I'm talking about Buban (the most obnoxious soul), Jackson (the follower), Cheryl B. (the last name has the same letter as the name she elicits) and Susie A. (who has been, by the way, very quiet since getting some bogus appointment ala T. O'Malley)!! Wow, let's see how much the new council will be able to accomplish if, "Heaven Forbid" you crybabies don't get your way again. I'm having deja vu.

By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

First they said we needed $500,000 of the rainy day money. Then they came back a month later and said oops we miscalculated we need $1,000,000 of that rainy day money. Must have started raining a little harder during that month. I would bet anything that if they took a hard look right now today they would need $1,500,000. Also they say each time they have $11,000,000 of rainy day never decreasing it for each time they use it. Also they are counting every dime we have over budget as rainy day. Well its pouring out and all they care is they don't have to lay someone off. Well I don't give a damn lay as many of them as you have to to get the budget balanced. You say they are doing all those things. Who is providing a real evaluation on the rotunda? Who is saying lets expedite WalMart? Who is getting the printery mess straightened out? Who is suggesting lowering development fees to jump start the local construction economy? When they are finishe using up that so called rainy day money it will be too late to take the steps to balance the budget. We need action now!

By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

has fallen and can't get up!

To: Atascadero needs CC Candidates


You got them: Fonzi, Kelly, Clay are all realtors or ex realtors. Just what a growing city needs –NOT. Atascadero is doomed.

By: Anonymous on 8/7/08

To insider:

Most of this is being done. And there is no deficit spending. Using a rainy day fund to pay for necessities in a market downturn is what a rainy day fund is for. You are truly an idiot and don't know anything about what is happening in Atascadero.

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