No Hill in Avila Beach, debate civil

January 29, 2016
Dan Carpenter and Debbie Peterson

Dan Carpenter and Debbie Peterson

By KAREN VELIE

The Avila Beach Community Center was packed during Thursday night’s San Luis Obispo County District 3 supervisor debate, the first of the political season. The debate was unmoderated, without time limits and included only questions from members of the audience.

Sitting  Supervisor Adam Hill made a big show of skipping the debate, sending a statement to the New Times that he would not attend because he thought the open format could lead to a lack of civility and personal attacks. However, he failed to inform the debate sponsor, Integrity SLO, that he would not be attending.

Nevertheless, the debate was unusually civil as candidates San Luis Obispo Councilman Dan Carpenter and former Grover Beach Mayor Debbie Peterson  fielded questions from the public.

When asked about his views on the urgency water ordinance passed by the current SLO County Board of Supervisors,  Carpenter questioned the passing of a law that requires a farmer who practiced dry farming during the drought to be required to buy water rights to switch to irrigated crops.

“I think they jumped the gun,” Carpenter said. “It takes away private property rights.”

Peterson also voiced her opposition to the ordinance saying the $1 million spent on monitoring water would have been better spent evaluating water options.

“It was a crock,” Peterson said. “We need to take that million dollars and get county workers to evaluate water options… and make a decision.”

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In response to questions about the possibility of rolling back county employee salaries that with benefits have exceeded $300,000 to $400,000 a year, Peterson said public employment used to be viewed as service to the community. She questioned widening gaps in pay between management and staff.

Carpenter said that there is a need to negotiate salary reductions. He also voiced his opposition to using comparable cities chosen by the bargaining units to support pay increases.

At the podium, several members of the public voiced their approval of the format and also chastised Hill for not attending the debate.

“This is an amazing evening,” an Avila Beach resident said during the question and answer period. “Adam Hill is a friend of mine and it is sad that he did not think enough of Avila to show up.”

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SLO City’s Oligarchy:

Is Adam Hill a Communist?

http://bit.ly/1nAIKRE


“An oligarchy is a form of government in which most of the political power effectively rests with a small segment of society, typically the people who have the most wealth, military strength, ruthlessness or political influence.

..Most communist states fit the definition of oligarchies.”


By definition, then, it be accurate to say that Adam Hill and his entourage are present-day Communists.


Aaron Ochs just announced on CCN FB page that he has been trying to locate where I live. Adam Hill is paying these creepy stalkers to harass people that say anything against him. You want to meet my family Adam and Aaron? How about my husband shows up at both of your houses to discuss why you are stalking me?


Yes, and your comment is exactly why the phrase “don’t feed the trolls” is used.


Internet trolls feed on attention, even bad attention. Your post gives him something to get excited about, just like a small child in a bad environment, any kind attention will do, will get them off (the troll).


If he is stalking or harassing you, call the cops, don’t send any traffic his way.


Some reading

https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/25/internet-trolls-are-also-real-life-trolls


Study Shockingly Suggests Internet Trolls May Not Be Very Nice Or Particularly Mentally Healthy In Real Life

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140217/05122426247/psychologists-internet-trolls-are-narcissistic-psychopathic-sadistic.shtml


Internet Trolls Are Narcissists, Psychopaths, and Sadists

Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists


Also: what if we told him…

http://www.livememe.com/jzlzgn5


The ability to rate one another’s posts should be eliminated..


Why should we give up rating? As a populus should we should give up on (close) a park just because some people are jerks, messy or look strange?


No, then the asshols win a round. Haters and bullies will continue, lets focus on the bad apples, not cutting down the tree.


Let’s not give up nice things because of trolls etc.


Food for the troll, or bait on a hook? Once again Aaron Ochs has publicly attacked a woman who made a comment about Adam Hill.

http://calcoastnews.com/2015/02/is-a-morro-bay-parks-a-government-troll/


Adam, the qualities I look for in any political candidate are the following:

Honesty

Compassion

Integrity

Confidence

and…Flexibility,,,of which you have NONE!


QUOTING THE ARTICLE: “Sitting Supervisor Adam Hill made a big show of skipping the debate…”


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Hill pulled a “Donald Trump.” I hope Hill’s constituents, when it comes time to vote, remember Hill couldn’t be bothered to show up at the debate.


He was too busy pounding down the free wine at the Congregation Beth David charity concert for the Octagon Barn.


Do I smell horse shit? Or does Adam Hill have his mouth open?


CCN Adam, please explain the government documents from the Secretary of State proving that you are in a business relationship with developers.


Adam HATE! LIES! HATE MONGERS!!!!


CCN Mr. Hill, please explain why you have not disclosed this business relationship publicly.


Adam HATE! HATE MONGERS! LIARS!!!


CCN Mr. Hill, it is understood that you are invited to a debate, please comment.


Adam LIES! HATE! FALSE ADVERTISEMENT!!!!!


“A Cult of Ignorance” by Isaac Asimov, January 21, 1980”


“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”