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February 14, 2012

Lisa Solomon

By DANIEL BLACKBURN

Was it just naughty fun? A little good-natured grope here and there? Or were crimes committed?

Paso Robles Police Chief Lisa Solomon is being accused of sexual misconduct by a growing group of former and current Paso Robles police officers and department employees. She also ordered unlawful traffic ticket quotas, say some. But what, exactly, do these allegations really mean?

Solomon’s employer, City Manager James App, has made no public comment about the situation other than to refer reporters to a city policy describing “sexual harassment.”

Solomon’s reported actions, if proven true as described in detail by officers who have agreed to be identified by name, might go well beyond established, definitive limits of harassing activities. California criminal law specifically addresses at least some of the allegations.

In addition, several of the officers no longer with the department ascribe their departures to retaliatory actions by Solomon.

A handful of officers have provided details of a “mandatory meeting” called by Solomon for her supervisory staff during a Super Bowl “team-building workshop” at the Carmel Valley Lodge. The meeting was held in a hot tub at Solomon’s directive, officers said.

Solomon, after baring her breasts to the seven men, slipped her hand under former Sgt. Brennen Lux’s swim suit and touched his penis, officers said. Another officer was similarly touched after Lux quickly exited, according to witnesses.

Officer T.J. McCall reported to a city-hired private investigator that on another occasion, Solomon grabbed his penis as he rode in her official vehicle.

California’s Penal Code 243.4 (e)(1) reads:  “Any person who touches an intimate part of another person, if the touching is against the will of the person touched, and is for the specific purpose of sexual arousal, sexual gratification, or sexual abuse, is guilty of misdemeanor sexual battery.” Penalties for conviction are more severe for public officials.

The alleged Carmel Valley incident was witnessed by police commanders, lieutenants and sergeants who are duty bound to report such an alleged assault. However, none of the officers reported the incident as a crime or reported it to city officials as harassment.

Such a crime is described by prosecutors as a “wobbler” — depending on  circumstances, it can be charged as a misdemeanor, or as a felony, if, for example, a victim’s bare skin is touched without consent. Conviction of either carries jail or prison time.

Conviction under this provision of either a misdemeanor or felony also requires registering as a sex offender.

App provided the city’s policy regarding sexual harassment after being asked by CalCoastNews: “If several employees said a manager in the city sexually touched them, what is the city policy?”

App responded: “As to your questions regarding city policy, the city has an adopted harassment policy (copy attached) which defines harassment and sets forth the process to investigate.”

That policy dates back to 1992 and was prepared by former City Manager Richard Ramirez. It reads in part: “Harassment can take a variety of forms ranging from subtle, off-color remarks, to physical assault.”

This is the city policy’s definition of harassment: “Unwelcome advances, improper requests for favors and/or other verbal or physical conduct of an offensive nature (when) such conduct has the purpose or effect of unreasonably and substantially interfering with a person’s work performance, or creating an intimidating, hostile or offensive work environment.”

And those traffic citation quotas? Such allegations, if proven, put the chief in jeopardy of criminal charges, and the city at risk for expensive civil action.


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Also, Thanks CCN for continuing to keep this story front and center. Without ongoing diligence and reporting, it is likely to be swept under the rug.


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It’s sort of like having Bill Clinton back in office. The Groper in Chief, only now we have the Groper Chief and he is a SHE!!!! All allegations, until a “Paul” Jones comes forward and gets this into the courtroom. On a more serious note, if these allegations are true, then this poor woman has some serious mental issues therefore it is not safe to have her in a position of power.


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Why are you running the same story again? Is it because comments on the last story ran their course and petered out so you’re trying to keep the “hits” coming? Or are you just trying to keep the bloggers stirred up?


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PETERED out?


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fhill123,


Yes, it’s ungodly for pasodude to use sexual inuendos, isn’t it? But, what did we expect since he has an obvious axe to grind against the continuing saga of Lisa Solomon!


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pasodude,


If you can’t see the NEW information within this article pertaining to the continuing saga of Lisa Solomon, then I personally suggest that you just go back and read your comic books.


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Maybe “pasodude” is very, very, VERY close to chief solomon, and so this is not new information to him/her.


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LOL!!


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@pasodude, spot on! Bingo front row. Thank goodness I’m not the only one that sees this.


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Typclqun,


Yep, that makes two of you now, congratulations!


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All we can do is have confidence that these reports be fairly and completely investigated, and if improprieties are found, they be punished accordingly. A Police Chief is a position of honor, and therefore that person must be held to a higher standard. If criminal behavior is found, this should be prosecuted with the tenacity of other suspected criminals, if not more so.

This is wishful thinking of course, because the cynic in me sees this whole situation being brushed under the rug. Thank you Mr. Blackburn, Ms. Velie, for exposing corruption in our County.


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Unfortunately I don’t have any confidence whatsoever that “…these reports be fairly and completely investigated, and if improprieties are found, they be punished accordingly…” within the context of the Paso Robles City Manager or the City Council. I think they are so culpable themselves for allowing this well known behavior to go on for so long that they are literally afraid of what the public will think/do if they cannot keep the lid on things.


The ONLY way the truth will be made public is via lawsuits where people are cross examined under oath and in the public eye.


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“Was it just naughty fun? A little good-natured grope here and there?”


Very professional opening, more treats for the posters. These articles should be entered under opinion pieces.


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Typicalqueen,


You forgot to include; “Or were crimes committed?” See how this makes a difference to what you want it to say?


These alleged “treats” seem to have you coming back to give us your opinion, don’t they?


The verbiage being used in Solomon’s articles always contain specific nondiscriminatory words, like “accused, allegations, etc.” Therefore, don’t get your panties in a bunch just yet. Suits have been filed in behalf of some of these “alleged” happenings which gives her being “accused” of misconduct just a little more foundation.


Remember, if it starts smelling, and walking like a duck, it’s a duck!


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Obviously you have some relation with CCN, not sure how but after following you posts, which in general I usually like, I do believe that you know Karen and Dan, that you are someone close to them if not one of them.


I used to come back to these articles to gather info because I thought they were interesting but now I come back because I feel that someone needs to speak up against the one sided bully mentality on this site.


“The verbiage being used in Solomon’s articles always contain specific nondiscriminatory words, like “accused, allegations, etc.”


Really, like this first paragraph in the first article? Where does it say these ‘nondiscriminatory words like ‘accused, allegations etc.’? This is the entire paragraph:


“Law enforcement officers have names for the girls offering them sex on the beat: Badge Bunny. Holster Sniffer. Uniform Jumper. Handcuff Hugger. In Paso Robles, brethren in blue have one more: The Chief.”


I know that you won’t agree with this because of the ALEGED relationship that you have with this news site but I feel that the articles in this forum are getting more and more biased and they serve mainly to slander in a round about way and to fuel or even create controversy by being very salacious in nature in a tabloidish way. It’s a shame because when this site first started I had great hope for the investigative reporting but now I read with a much more sceptical eye,,you’re a smart person, it’s too bad that your ALEGED relationship won’t allow this.


I don’t see or hear a duck. I hear accusations and due to my very very old age I’ve been around long enough to know that it doesn’t take much to start a gossip mill in a work place especially when the boss being (maybe) gossiped about is a women in what is generally and traditionally a male position. Unfortunately it can be like a cancer. I don’t know if the allegations are true or not but I don’t put it past some employees that have an axe to grind with their boss to fuel the rumor fire. I’ll wait for real facts to come out and to hear her side of the story before I make up my mind or say slanderous or mean spirited things about Solomon.


There is a ‘hit list’ on this site and Solomen is definitely on it and once she’s on it there isn’t any turning back. It’s like Lord of The Flies all over again.


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TQ,


It’s obvious that Solomon is on Karen and Dan’s “Hit List” and has been for many years. If they can’t prove allegations against her with facts then they resort to smear tactics using simple minded people on this forum, like Ted, and attack her personally. Let me back up, they (Karen and Dan) don’t attack her personally, they just provide the fuel and leave the rest up to the simple minded people on this forum, like Ted, to do the rest.


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Solomon has made herself a “person of interest” by her own misdeeds and incompetency ( unregistered stolen loaded gun, bankruptcy and resulting lawsuits, cancelling the car show), and most recently, having to be rescued by the Sheriff’s Dept to get the crime down (homicides, drug dealing, gangs coming in from the North, drive-by shootings, etc.) in the north end of town.


Her off duty behavior, (drunk and yelling in her front yard, and at the Paso Robles Inn), her provocative clothing while on duty, has not exactly provided the “role model for young women” that the city manager promised.


I wonder how much time she has spent in court during her tenure at the Paso Police Dept. for her three divorces, child support from her baby daddy, bankruptcy (federal court) and lawsuits, and four marriages.


Since she and hubby run a business on the side, and she is always invited to sing the pledge of alligience , and is the fund raiser and event coordinator for the AMGEN bike races, I wonder how much time she actually spends doing the job of police chief. Everytime I see her (except once), she has been out of uniform. Maybe she fancies herself as the police chief in the Closer tv show.


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Citizen: your post pretty much sums it all up. Everything you said is true.


Just to add–last year she was on 1230am talk radio. I think it was after the fatal laundromat stabbing. Anyway, I called in & asked her about the rise in crime in Paso. I was polite but to the point and asked why she spent so much time promoting the wine festival & AMGEN tour when she’s the Chief of POLICE! Shouldn’t she be focusing on fighting crime, instead?


Her response was telling. She calmly stated that the city had asked her to serve in that capacity, that she was serving the residents in a double-capacity and was able to handle all her responsibilities in a dilligent manner. She was so condescending and sounded like WE should be thankful to have HER. Ugh.


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I agree with a few of those things ie the gun issue and those things should be looked at. But these are separate allegations. Sexual harassment, retaliation, and ticket quotas shouldn’t be judged on the gun episode IMO. There is no relation. The bankruptcy,,, there’s a few different reasons that someone goes bankrupt, I’m not sure that any of us have the knowledge as to why she did that. There could be a perfectly good explanation for that.


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Incorrect. Not separate issues – all acts by the same person. These are issues of conduct of a person who has limited ability to exercise proper judgement. This kind of behavior should not be tolerated by the public.


She has ruined the reputation of the Paso Robles PD, and made its officers laughing stock and nightly news fodder. She has put the men and women in uniform under her command at a greater risk of personal harm, and created a hostile work environment within the department.


She needs to (pardon the expression) ‘man up’ and resign, before she brings any more disgrace to the department or the city. I’m surprised the city manager has not asked for her resignation already.


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So you’re saying that if she left her gun in the car that she must be guilty of sexually harassed and forced ticket quotas on her subordinates. You are saying that they are related. IMO we know that she left her gun in the car but we don’t know if she sexually harassed her subordinates. IF it is found that she is guilty of these charges then you might have a point but so far she hasn’t been found guilty of these charges so they’re not related.


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She took the type of bankruptcy where you don’t try to repay anyone. Several stores (one furniture store in particular)around here were stuck with her bills.


Police departments don’t like to keep officers that are in financial trouble because of the temptation of taking bribes and embezzlement. The chief handles a $10 million budget and was put in charge of fundraising for the Amgen. In the past, police departments would fire officers that got in so much debt that they had to declare bankruptcy.


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I believe that’s the bankruptcy that most people do. You might be right, but let me throw out one scenario. What if her child (I don’t even know if she has children) had to have a kidney transplant or something serious like an ongoing illness such as cancer. Maybe her insurance didn’t cover it all. There are many cases where insurance companies don’t pay of for one reason or the other and the insurer is forced to pay hundreds of thousands and even up to a million in med bills. Of course I’m making this scenario up, I have no idea, maybe she’s just bad with her money. My story was just a possibility that if that was to happen then of course she wouldn’t lose her job over it and there are other reasons as well.


Look, I don’t want to go through this Solomon thing again. It seems like as soon as things calm down they put out another story about her just to flame the fire. I might be right or I might be wrong. It will all come out in the wash. I have not once said that I feel that she is innocent of these charges BTW.


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Typo,


Her bankruptcy was based upon her shopping and her husband’s failing t shirt company.


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You are correct. PDs don’t like to keep officers who are in financial trouble, or have other “morals” problems.


And the city of Paso Robles makes her chief of poilce?


I guess a woman willing to show her hooters at the drop of a hat are all the qualifications needed to be chief of police in PR.


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She is nothing but a DISGRACE to law enforcement. Do you think that anyone is going to look into her bankruptcy? Riddle me this, between her and her husband they make OVER 1/4 of a MILLION dollars a year, additionally you know she must have gotten a huge child support award on top of that, and she is allowed to go BANKRUPT? PLEASE, that JUDGE needs to be looked into also. Now, she couldn’t get hired as a janitor, but she is allowed to remain on as CHIEF OF POLICE?? C’mon…. this is insanity !! Officers, speak up. This is your time to go public… you have a DUTY to us ALL to do so!!


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Okay, so you know about her personal finances, you must be her accountant. I don’t have that information.


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Typoqueen, you must just be on the payroll. Their income is public knowledge, he child support order could be readily accessed. Believe me if their bankruptcy had anything to do with an ailing child it would have been ALL over the newspapers. Remember, she thrives on attention. I’m fairy certain she’s not even bothered by all this. She probably has already been promised this will all go away in a little time! Seriously?!! Don’t you know that won’t hire anyone in Law Enforcement with financial problems today….for good reason :)


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Karen and Dan’s greatest hit list? you sound like you have inside information or quite an imagination. like Richard Nixon


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Well, that’s my opinion as well as many people that I’ve spoken with. That is also the opinion that I’ve made after speaking with several people that know Karen. One of Cindy’s posts mentioned a friend of mine (and was quickly deleted), a friend that I’ve never mentioned. That action was quite revealing as I don’t even know Karen. The only person that knows about that friend is Karen, why would she gossip to another poster about me and my friends,,and it wasn’t accurate BTW, it was way off base? Because of how inaccurate Cindy’s post was regarding my friend helps me to understand that what I keep hearing about CCN is true. I don’t want to get beat up right now so I won’t list those articles that seem to be hit pieces. But there has been a few of them.


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Paranoid? Table for one?


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LOL, oh that is rich. Pot, Kettle,,,,too funny. You’re part of the gang that believes that entire county is corrupt over Solomon, keeps comparing this issue to the City of Bell and goes along with getting the FBI involved, that’s paranoia.


Facts are facts, some of you have a hard time with that. What I said above isn’t paranoia. Have you lost so much touch with reality that you don’t know the difference between a fact and paranoia? It’s a fact that Karen gossips to posters about other posters as well as city officials. When I hear the same gossipy story about one of our top local officials from more that one person that came from Karen then that’s not paranoia.


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Typclqun,


I neither know Dan, nor do I personally have any relationship with Karen or any other member of CCN. Even if I did, what has that got to do with the price of tea in China? Your first tent has folded.


YOUR QUOTE: “Law enforcement officers have names for the girls offering them sex on the beat: Badge Bunny. Holster Sniffer. Uniform Jumper. Handcuff Hugger. In Paso Robles, brethren in blue have one more: The Chief.”


The above is a “by-line”, and granted, it is to attract attention in the same vein as the LA Times does in their lead articles. Do you deny them the same? If so, why?


But, within said articles about Lisa Solomon there are more terms like “alleged”, “allegations”, and the like. Subjectively, you’re being blind of this house of cards being built by Lisa Solomon that is slowly tumbling with further “alleged” evidence coming, more officers coming forth, and the lawsuits being filed in her behalf. Of course you know that certain “informants” cannot be named at this time, and will come forth at the proper time, yes? So, you cannot argue against this point. Your second tent has folded.


Barring the fact that some lawsuits have been filed pertaining to these articles, of which, I am sure that they have “foundation” more so than not, otherwise, why would they be filed? One of them, the Police Union officer pertaining to “alleged” quotas. Your third tent has folded.


Please, quit assuming as a premise the conclusion in which you wish to reach to try in vain to prove your weak argument, okay? Once again, you herald the fact about the alleged fact that I won’t agree with you is because I have alleged relations with CCN.


It does not bode you well to argue in this manner, because to the logical mind, it is demeaning for you to do so because it matters not. The story is what it is! Within the same vein, are the others that argue with CCN’s position on this story, also have relations with CCN, Karen, Blackburn, et al? Get it? Argue the facts of the story, not what you perceive, as if it made a difference in the first place. 2+2=4.


A non-duck scenario equals YOU not seeing that law suits have been filed, Lisa and App refuse to talk about the “allegations”, and I have lost count of the officers and others that have come forward, with some giving their names to this story. Furthermore, Lisa and friends controlling the Council meeting, her being dressed in full uniform while off duty at said meeting, having her cronies present, and the majority of questioners outside in the hallway where they could not hear what was going on.


The above is just to name a few situations that bear more fruit than you would like to accept. Just how many allegations and “being accused of”, and factual lawsuits, do you need to see? Yes, she is not guilty until proven so, but, it is nonetheless, leaning towards her BEING A DUCK!


You won’t hear Lisa’s side of the story because obviously her Council has told her to remain QUIET! Ask yourself in this case, WHY? The least of which, her Council, or her, could state that these allegations are without merit! Or, she could say that until a full investigation, I will respectfully remain silent! BUT THEY HAVE DONE NEITHER, and seemingly, that purports her being guilty more so than not! Do you at least see some “duck feathers” laying about at this point?


I won’t address the rest of your diatribe in your above post in question because you’ve become what you’re allegedly against! JUST READ YOUR ALLEGATIONS RELATIVE TO YOU AND OTHERS DOING THINGS IN THE SAME MANNER THAT YOU ACCUSE AND CHASTISE THE CCN POSTERS OF DOING WITHIN THIS STORY!


NOW, WHO IS GUILTY OF SALACIOUS TABLOID JOURNALISM????!!!!! Shame on you! LOL


P.S. It’s a duck.


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@Ted, this is going to be long because I’m going to CCP each point as to properly address them.


“The above is a “by-line”, and granted, it is to attract attention in the same vein as the LA Times does in their lead articles. Do you deny them the same? If so, why?”


I don’t agree with you. I feel that the only place in the LA Times that you would see and opening paragraph like that is under the editorials or opinions. Other than that it might be in the middle or the end of an article, it would be a quote from someone against Solomon or after she’s found guilty as opposed to the unbiased journalist that doesn’t have the whole story.. But that’s not the point. You said that they always put ‘allegedly’ or something to that effect, well they don’t and that paragraph illustrates just that.


” Of course you know that certain “informants” cannot be named at this time, and will come forth at the proper time, yes? So, you cannot argue against this point. Your second tent has folded.”


No, I can’t argue with that. I’ve never said anything to the contrary. But most journalists would also interview people that support Solomon and from the looks of the last council meeting there appears to be plenty of people that Dan could have and should have interviewed. But it’s too late for that now. Those people that supported her have also been judged by the posters in this site. I’d be surprised if anyone that supports Solomon would grant an interview for CCN at this point.


“A non-duck scenario equals YOU not seeing that law suits have been filed, Lisa and App refuse to talk about the “allegations”, and I have lost count of the officers and others that have come forward, with some giving their names to this story. Furthermore, Lisa and friends controlling the Council meeting, her being dressed in full uniform while off duty at said meeting, having her cronies present, and the majority of questioners outside in the hallway where they could not hear what was going on.’

I am sure that they have “foundation” more so than not, otherwise, why would they be filed?”


Not everyone that files charges or a complaint has a legit claim. But I have never said that the accusations are baseless, they might very well be true. I’m not saying that they aren’t. I just feel it’s good to have balance, to look at both sides of an issue especially when we don’t have all the facts. But that’s the difference between me and Dan, Karen, you and some other posters on this site.


“Please, quit assuming as a premise the conclusion in which you wish to reach to try in vain to prove your weak argument, okay?”


Wait isn’t that what CCN and 6 or 7 of you are doing throughout these articles, I guess I was just flowing with the tide? I did say that I assume that you know Karen and Dan as you don’t usually seem to jump on such illogical conclusions such as those of assuming Solomon is guilty before hearing both sides of the issue and waiting for all of the facts. You didn’t strike me as that kind of guy. But I was wrong. I just hope you’re not selected to be on her jury (if she has one).


“A non-duck scenario equals YOU not seeing that law suits have been filed, Lisa and App refuse to talk about the “allegations”,”


I see that suits have been filed. Of course they won’t talk. It’s an ongoing case, any lawyer in their right mind would advise them to keep quiet.


“..and I have lost count of the officers and others that have come forward, with some giving their names to this story.”


This part is a bit confusing because I keep hearing about how all of these cops have come forward against Solomon. I believe that I read that there’s about 20 cops in PR., I might be wrong but I believe it was about that. Then I hear that there were 10 cops at the council meeting sitting in the front of the meeting to support her. The I get this odd post/email from Karen that said that there was also squad cars (more than one) in the parking lot with cops in riot gear during the meeting that were also there as if to intimidate those that were to speak against Solomon. So we have 10 inside and squad cars with cops outside all in support. That’s well over half of the dept.. These numbers don’t seem to gel.


“Furthermore, Lisa and friends controlling the Council meeting, her being dressed in full uniform while off duty at said meeting, having her cronies present, and the majority of questioners outside in the hallway where they could not hear what was going on.””


How many council meetings have you been to? I’ve been to a lot of city council meetings. I have seen cops and firemen including our chief dressed in uniform even when not on duty. We had two posters on this website that said that only the first either 2 or 4 rows were full of her supporters. From looking at the pictures there were a lot more people there then were in those first 2-4 rows. Twice as many seats were available for the anti Soloman crowd as well as standing room inside the chambers. The posters said that she was surrounded by armed uniformed officers when clearly from the picture that was posted here and what was on the news that’s simply not true,,, that would be a lie. Controlling the council meeting?? I was told that the people in the hall could hear what was going on. I saw the people in the hall and in the chambers on the news, there were a lot more people in the chambers than were in the hall.


“Yes, she is not guilty until proven so, but, it is nonetheless, leaning towards her BEING A DUCK!”


Yes, just like the McMartins.


“NOW, WHO IS GUILTY OF SALACIOUS TABLOID JOURNALISM”


I’m not a journalist.


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No, not like the McMartins. More like Mark Berndt, the perv who molested students over decades at the Miramonte School in Los Angeles.


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Oh, was he convicted by the public without all the facts or hearing both sides? Oh wait, they have PHOTOS in the Miramonte investigation.


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Typo,

I’m not sure why you continue to post on this subject when you’ve made your point clear. That point is a given….innocent until proven guilty. People want to opine here and it’s not a court of law. Of course you have every right, but it must get tedious.

I see the problem many of us have as the worry that govt. at all levels sweeps wrongdoing under the rug. One situation that comes to mind is the Edge/Wilcox/Perry scenario. By the time any action was taken, how many other lives were affected? And then the payout. That’s just one example, but a good one to illustrate how the system can be manipulated. Another that you & I share would be the OCSD director of the past and how long he was in power. Most just want the truth and if there’s no outrage, there’s often no results. Just my 2 cents…..


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You are correct and thank you for being rational. But I will change one thing that you said. I have ”’attempted”’ to make my point clear. Even though you don’t agree with me you seem to get it but I don’t believe that others do. You’re right it is tedious. I regret requesting to see the comments, when I see a comment that looks insane I have a hard time resisting responding back. You’re right though and besides that I simply don’t have the time to go back and forth like this. So no matter how dumb the comment might be, no matter how they try and bait me I will try to resist temptation. BTW, I don’t agree that there needs to be outrage yet. I do agree though that citizens should stay involved and should make sure that this is being followed through.


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Ted you had me at “A non-duck scenario”


Also typo: what is this really about?


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Well, between you and me, [whispering in your ear] don’t tell anyone, it’s all a big plot. Really, I’m Lisa Solomon’s long lost sister. Our father is really a journalist from the Trib. named Cuddy that’s jealous of the superior journalism over here. Lisa’s dog caused salt water intrusion in the sentry well in Oceano by peeing on it, I found out that Lisa’s a duck and she’s plotting to take money from central coast school lunch programs and that our brother Adam has 9 out of wedlock kids, and that the local govt. including the fire depts, police depts, schools, unions councils, BOS, WRAC along with Jerry Brown and Obama are all completely corrupt and they’re all card carrying communist. There, run with that for awhile. After all, that seems to be what people want to read so there you go and God knows they believe everything written in this website.


What the h$ll do you mean by ‘what is this really about?’ Do you think that I’m in on some nefarious plot? How clear do I have to be,, ””’Innocent until proven guilty””. I’ve said it a thousand times and yet you people think that I’m sticking up for Solomon or that I have some underlying agenda,,it’s so goofy that it would be funny if humans weren’t being slandered over unsubstantiated claims and GOSSIP.


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TYPOQUEEN: “Obviously you have some relation with CCN, not sure how but after following you posts, which in general I usually like, I do believe that you know Karen and Dan, that you are someone close to them if not one of them.”


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Yeah, and you’re sitting in Lisa Solomon’s hip pocket, too. That doesn’t prove you are Lisa Solomon, however.


Or does it?


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LOL, no I am Lisa Solomon,,,there now it’s out, you blew my cover.


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Um…Typo. Sorry – but she couldn’t get hired in any law enforcement agency with her background. She may be a good cop, but there is absolutely no way she makes background at even entry level LE


Paso has a problem, a big one. The sooner they let the chips fall where they may, the better. I see the city coffers being emptied if the council doesn’t take charge. Sadly I don’t think the mayor has the will. So Paso Robles, get used to your potholes.


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I am too far removed from the situation to know if the Chief is guilty of any crimes.


With that said, I will make the observation that in cases where higher-ups tolerate the illegal activities of a rogue law enforcement officer, it is often because those higher ups have illegal or questionable behaviro of their own that they wish to cover up. Either the rogue officer knows of that behavior and holds it above them, or they simply find it comforting that the spotlight of public scrutiny is shining on someone other than themselves.


I’d wager there are many tendrils of ethics violations that lead to or from this troubling situation in Paso Robles. What an exciting and fruitful time to be an investigative reporter in San Luis Obispo County!


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SPOT ON, WiseGuy!


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The City is going to tolerate its leadership behaving like this as long as the citizens let them.


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Major changes will not happen as long as employee unions fund the re-electon of the decision makers.


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Hey that was fast, only two comments in and we get someone blaming the unions! “Union-derangement syndrome” sure pops up a lot with certain people, amazing. If you want to get the union money out of politics you will need to get the corporate money out as well; best place to start is movetoamend.org If the voters of Paso Robles want to change their leadership, they will need new council members who will hold their city manager accountable and be ready to fire him if he will not take the appropriate actions.


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Sally,


Bob is correct! Your first post out of the box is Union bashing, again! LOL Let’s see, what’s a good side moniker for Sally, hmmmm. I know! “SUB!” (Sally Union Basher)


Of course you have substantial PROOF that the Union is continuously funding the re-electon of the decision makers. Yes? We’ll await this proof in a timely manner. Thanks.


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QUOTING BOBFROMSL: “Hey that was fast, only two comments in and we get someone blaming the unions! ”


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Sometimes, here at CCN, we can be quite efficient.


Most of the time…not so much. =)


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I don’t think the unions had much to do with this situation. The Police Chief was appointed, and the council is elected, but the city unions here are not very big or powerful.


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How long is this City going to tolerate its leadership. Come November we need a new Council with good leadership skills. Major changes need to take place and that must start with its leadership: Council, department heads, etc. We cannot, should not, and will not continue with business as ususal. We need people who can think independent of Jim App, challenge his decisions by asking questions, and doing the job you councilmembers were elected to do – lead. Let’s get some new, YOUNG, thought provoking people on this council, not just a pack of dogs all smelling each others a** running in a circle.


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